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Her death wouldn't necessarily do anything to the team's budget. Ray is back and with Felicity out of the way he would almost need to come back and take over unless he wants his company to be run by amoral morons, and he could keep the money coming. The technical expertise for hacking and surveillance and support would be harder to replace but doable.
Ray is back for all of 5 minutes until he goes time traveling in Legends of Tomorrow. I wouldn't count on him sticking around.
There is no way it's going to be Felicity though. If nothing else, Ollie and Barry would both have been more upset in the cemetery if it was.
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Ray is back and with Felicity out of the way he would almost need to come back and take over unless he wants his company to be run by amoral morons, and he could keep the money coming. The technical expertise for hacking and surveillance and support would be harder to replace but doable.
Ray is alive but he isn't "back." He hasn't even revealed his survival to the public, much less shown any interest in returning to running his company. And he'll be busy fighting Vandal Savage throughout time for a while.
Yeah, they could bring in Curtis to replace Felicity but I think he works better as an inventor/analyst than he would as a hacker/communications hub.
As a side note, the banter between Felicity and the others over the comm link would be lost, and that's one of the few things on Arrow that keeps the show from being all dark, all the time. Without Felicity around to buoy the tone, the remaining cast would be angry, brooding, alcoholic killers with deep, deep family issues.
So that's what would be lost. What would be gained by killing off Felicity? Leaving Oliver free to have a relationship with the non-entity in Central City who bore his child? Better to maintain the dramatic tension of him trying to balance Felicity against the kid. Turning Oliver into a rage monster hell-bent on revenge at any cost? Been there, done that. Soothing your nerves? Not a big enough pay off for a large number of fans.
Yeah, I'm firmly in they're messing with us camp in regards to Felicity and the grave. There's also the fact that the grave scene is supposed to take 6 months from the start of the season. I don't think that much time has passed yet in the show.
That by itself may not mean anything. You'd expect Oliver to revisit her grave from time to time, so "six months later" doesn't necessarily indicate a recent event. I don't remember the scene well enough to recall whether the grave dirt was fresh or if grass had grown over it.
Yeah, I'm firmly in they're messing with us camp in regards to Felicity and the grave. There's also the fact that the grave scene is supposed to take 6 months from the start of the season. I don't think that much time has passed yet in the show.That by itself may not mean anything. You'd expect Oliver to revisit her grave from time to time, so "six months later" doesn't necessarily indicate a recent event. I don't remember the scene well enough to recall whether the grave dirt was fresh or if grass had grown over it.
Barry showed up in a suite and apologized for not making it to the funeral. I am thinking that means the funeral had just happened.
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If Felicity is the one who actually dies it will ruin the more lighthearted direction they started taking the show this season.
It could be saved for me, but I'm not sure these show writers can.
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When they survived the gas chamber, I thought everyone had a free pass this episode - that's when I had expected someone to die.
However, not only do we know that Felicity lives long enough to get to a hospital from the gurney scene, but remember her line about Damien Darkh just a few scenes before...if there's no body, don't count him being dead. I suspect that she narrowly survives, but they publicly fake her death, have the funeral, grave/tombstone, etc. They keep the information closely guarded, not even telling Barry (remains to be seen who on team arrow is in the know). That will put Damien Darkh off from trying to kill Oliver's loved ones every week. If Felicity has a spinal injury and loses the use of her legs, she could even become wheelchair bound and become Oracle.
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If Felicity has a spinal injury and loses the use of her legs, she could even become wheelchair bound and become Oracle.
I really don't want that to happen. Oracle is Barbara Gordon, and the thing I hated most about the new 52 was undoing that. I don't want to see Felicity forced into that role.
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There are already enough complaints about Arrow being too Batman.
I think she'll narrowly escape death... And ultimately, the one who dies is the mother of Ollie's child.
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1) obviously - who the hell is in it?
2) I didn't see anything - braces, handles, etc. - in the limo to suggest Felicity is wheelchair-bound. None of that is definitive, however; she might have a chair in the trunk and so on. So is she going to be Oracle, or not?
Also, my wife keenly observed that Felicity was not wearing her engagement ring in the flash forward. Drama!
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Felicity seemed more upset than I'd expect her to be over the death of Oliver's baby mama. Killing her mom would provoke that reaction, but at the same time -- despite that I agree with Imbicatus that she'd count as a two-fer slap against Quentin as well -- it would probably feel a bit of a let down to many viewers after months of teasing.
It can't be Quentin. We know it's a female person in the coffin. Ollie refers to it as "her".
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I did think it was odd that she had a name this episode. She's pretty much always been 'Felicity's Mom,' and now even Oliver is calling her 'Donna.'
Just like 'I thought his first name was 'Agent?'' Coulson became 'Phil' 45 minutes before he become shish-ke-bab.
I'm having Fight Club flashbacks. "In death, we have a name."
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No, it's Speedy killed by Anarky. By letting Anarky go, this can ultimately be tracked down to be Oliver's fault, at least in his mind. And they are building Anarky as Speedy's very own arch-enemy for reason. Anarky kills Speedy and Oliver then hunts him down.
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I'm really surprised nobody is commenting on,
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Waller isn't dead, it's just that her decoy is finally killed so the real Waller will have to come out of the shadows.
We can poach CCH Pounder from NCIS: N'awleans right?
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They did the same thing with Deadshot. Apparently the same ancillary characters can't exist within the TVverse and Movieverse.I'm really surprised nobody is commenting on,
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Were I Grant Gustin, I'd be really worried about the show come 2017...
They did the same thing with Deadshot. Apparently the same ancillary characters can't exist within the TVverse and Movieverse.I'm really surprised nobody is commenting on,
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This is easily DC's most annoying feature for me, dating all the way back to the Bat-Embargo for Justice League.
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Yeah, I never understood separating universes and then preventing different universes from using the same characters because they don't want to "confuse the audience".
Ah yes, let's kill off all the extra versions of characters to 'make it less confusing.'
It's Crisis on Infinite Earth's all over again!
Watch out Barry and Kara!
Cool episode... But were they trying to see how many twists they could pile in a single episode?
Roy shows up!
Katana shows up!
Katana teams up with... The assassin girl. I forgot her name.
Villain of the week knows Felicity!
Villain of the week is Felicity's dad!
Oliver... Sincerely thanks and gives a friendly hand shake to Malcolm!
Really fun episode=. :)
Thea is *GASP* IN A COMA!
Nissa asks Oliver to kill Malcolm!
Solid episode but it started feeling more soap opera-y than usual by the end.
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The tone is so different in the grimdark movies than it is in the tv shows (even Arrow, which is the darkest DC show on now, even after they lightened it up). I just can't see them crossing over between movies and TV, so it makes zero sense to eliminate any duplicate characters between the 'verses. Maybe it's just a coincidence that people are reading too much into. Superman is still (sort of) in Supergirl, after all.