Question about spell levels


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New to PF, had a question about spell levels that I didn't really find in the core rulebook. According to the table for the wizard, you get a certain number of spells to prepare every class level. However, it would seem that you "unlock" spell levels for every odd number level. (You get 1 spell of spell level 2 to prepare when you reach class level 3).

I also know that as a Wizard, you learn 2 spells after each level, and you can learn them from any spell levels you have available. My question then, is when do these spell levels become available? Is it every odd numbered level?

If that's true, is it referenced in the rules anywhere? I cannot, for the life of me find it. Heh.

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timeaisis wrote:

New to PF, had a question about spell levels that I didn't really find in the core rulebook. According to the table for the wizard, you get a certain number of spells to prepare every class level. However, it would seem that you "unlock" spell levels for every odd number level. (You get 1 spell of spell level 2 to prepare when you reach class level 3).

I also know that as a Wizard, you learn 2 spells after each level, and you can learn them from any spell levels you have available. My question then, is when do these spell levels become available? Is it every odd numbered level?

If that's true, is it referenced in the rules anywhere? I cannot, for the life of me find it. Heh.

Core Rulebook wrote:
At each new wizard level, he gains two new spells of any spell level or levels that he can cast

(emphasis mine)

Note that the table for the wizard shows the number of spells he can cast per day, not the number of different spells that he can know. So if I can cast three first level spells a day that could be the same spell three times, or three different spells once each. But my spellbook (the list of spells known) could conceivably contain twelve or more first-level spells.

The spells you learn when you gain a class level are additions to the spells known, not to the number of spells you can cast a day. They can be of any spell level you could cast, so at the odd [class] levels you will be able to know spells of the new [spell] level that has become available to you.


Ok, but I guess that's the question I have. What determines the spell levels that a Wizard (or any other spellcaster) can learn? It seems like it's every odd level opens up the next one.

My understanding is that a Cleric (because he's divine), would learn all 2nd-level Cleric spells at level 3. While a Wizard, when reaching class level 3, would be able to learn up to two spells from spell level 2. Is that correct?

I just didn't see a clear answer in the rulebook...


a Cleric at Level 3 can "Ask his god for blessings" or in other words, he can choose from any Level 2 divine spells, memorizing them according to the allotted number in the table (adding bonus spells for high casting modifier)

A wizard at Level 3 (when you level him up so to speak) is given 2 "free" new spells of his choosing (of any level or levels he can cast) those are sort of automatic on each level. these are written down in his spell book. What a wizard can do is Learn or write down new spells he might find on his adventures. from scrolls or from an enemy wizard spell book.

but yes, in short, every odd Class level, you reach a new Spell level.

Paizo's PRD on the Wizard. read up on Spells section there, and spell book. (and the link to Magic where it's talked about adding spells to the spell book)


Thanks!


Don't forget to add the Int bonus to the number of spells you can learn for free when you level. Also, you can purchase more spells for your book based on a price per level.


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Derfmancher wrote:
Don't forget to add the Int bonus to the number of spells you can learn for free when you level.

And where would you have that idea from? Last time I checked, you added your Int bonus to the number of spells you received with your first wizard level only.

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