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The Mad Badger wrote:
Urizen wrote:

I personally don't get why Evangelists fear communists.

Communism, if you take the etymological syntax of the word, is something that Jesus preached & practiced.

Or was that one ignored along with wearing clothes of blended wool and linen?

I prefer 100% cotton, myself.

Ah one slight difference communists at least those in the Soviet Union and I know we get in a slippery slope here but work with me on the fact. They went out of their way to outlawed religion and create a state with no religion was allowed and persecuted those who practiced it. So I guess that maybe were the fear factor comes in even if they had some very similar causes and teachings. Please don't take this as I believe Obama is a communist. I was only reposnding to Urizen here and I know he was tongue in cheek.

There's some of that, I suppose. "Godless Communist" is pretty much one word.

Mostly it's that much American Christianity has very little to do with what Jesus preached or the early church practiced. A lot of it is closely linked to capitalism (Prosperity Gospel) or American (capitalist) dominance.


thejeff wrote:
The Mad Badger wrote:
A Man In Black wrote:
Grand Magus wrote:
Conan can whup' Chuck Norris easily.
Conan is a Republican too.

Now while I did enjoy Arnold playing Conan he is by no means "Conan".

I mean really get some reality here folks Conan was a comic and before that a character in a book. Arnold can't be Conan he was a little too big in my estimation.

Conan is a character in a set of (mostly) short stories by Robert E. Howard. He's been adapted in other forms, including movies, comics and stories by other writers, but I don't see any real reason to give the comics precedence over the movies.

[/QUOTE Comics and books (short stories and the like by Howard were where Conan was taken from. Arnold has been one iteration of Conan, there was a recent movie done where Jason Momoa played Conan as well. While I enjoyed Arnold's portrayal of Conan I don't think he embodies all that was and will be Conan. I was not giving precedence for any group only stating I did not think Arnold's portrayal is the one true version of Conan.


thejeff wrote:
The Mad Badger wrote:
Urizen wrote:

I personally don't get why Evangelists fear communists.

Communism, if you take the etymological syntax of the word, is something that Jesus preached & practiced.

Or was that one ignored along with wearing clothes of blended wool and linen?

I prefer 100% cotton, myself.

Ah one slight difference communists at least those in the Soviet Union and I know we get in a slippery slope here but work with me on the fact. They went out of their way to outlawed religion and create a state with no religion was allowed and persecuted those who practiced it. So I guess that maybe were the fear factor comes in even if they had some very similar causes and teachings. Please don't take this as I believe Obama is a communist. I was only reposnding to Urizen here and I know he was tongue in cheek.

There's some of that, I suppose. "Godless Communist" is pretty much one word.

Mostly it's that much American Christianity has very little to do with what Jesus preached or the early church practiced. A lot of it is closely linked to capitalism (Prosperity Gospel) or American (capitalist) dominance.

I can understand why you might think that based upon alot of the out spoken groups who claim to represent Christianity in the United States. But I think it best to agree to disagree here. As my experience with religion is obviously much different than yours as we have experienced in the past. So let us shake hands and agree to disagree on this point.


The Mad Badger wrote:
thejeff wrote:
The Mad Badger wrote:
Urizen wrote:

I personally don't get why Evangelists fear communists.

Communism, if you take the etymological syntax of the word, is something that Jesus preached & practiced.

Or was that one ignored along with wearing clothes of blended wool and linen?

I prefer 100% cotton, myself.

Ah one slight difference communists at least those in the Soviet Union and I know we get in a slippery slope here but work with me on the fact. They went out of their way to outlawed religion and create a state with no religion was allowed and persecuted those who practiced it. So I guess that maybe were the fear factor comes in even if they had some very similar causes and teachings. Please don't take this as I believe Obama is a communist. I was only reposnding to Urizen here and I know he was tongue in cheek.

There's some of that, I suppose. "Godless Communist" is pretty much one word.

Mostly it's that much American Christianity has very little to do with what Jesus preached or the early church practiced. A lot of it is closely linked to capitalism (Prosperity Gospel) or American (capitalist) dominance.

I can understand why you might think that based upon alot of the out spoken groups who claim to represent Christianity in the United States. But I think it best to agree to disagree here. As my experience with religion is obviously much different than yours as we have experienced in the past. So let us shake hands and agree to disagree on this point.

I may have over-emphasized that. The anti-communist thing is very prevalent among the out-spoken Christian Right groups, which is why I focused on it. There are certainly more mainstream or liberal churches as well. Probably in larger numbers.

I still say they don't really match with the early church or Jesus's teachings, but that's been true for centuries and is another discussion. Mainstream US Christianity doesn't really stand out here.


Aretas wrote:

At Iron truth: Don't say it another way, show me how you support Chuck Norris is a subconscious racist? Focus, CHUCK NORRIS.

You're missing my point. This has nothing to do with Chuck Norris. This has to do with you saying the same thing too many times, that that concept no longer has meaning to me.

You know how when you say a word out loud a whole bunch of times in a row and suddenly it starts to sound strange? Its that. Your catchphrase of "this isn't racism" has become meaningless when you say it. Or maybe you're just unsure of what racism is.

I'm not saying Chuck Norris is racist. I'm saying your overall defense of republican's not being racist sounds like meaningless babble to me now. You don't actually provide anything in your defense except a counter attack. That might work in a firefight, but it doesn't work in logic.


Chuck Norris doesn't tell time, he just stares at it until it does what he wants.


Irontruth wrote:
Chuck Norris doesn't tell time, he just stares at it until it does what he wants.

Sounds like my newfie lab mix. "YOU WILL OBEY"


thejeff wrote:
The Mad Badger wrote:
A Man In Black wrote:
Grand Magus wrote:
Conan can whup' Chuck Norris easily.
Conan is a Republican too.

Now while I did enjoy Arnold playing Conan he is by no means "Conan".

I mean really get some reality here folks Conan was a comic and before that a character in a book. Arnold can't be Conan he was a little too big in my estimation.

Conan is a character in a set of (mostly) short stories by Robert E. Howard. He's been adapted in other forms, including movies, comics and stories by other writers, but I don't see any real reason to give the comics precedence over the movies.

Other than they were there first?

But regardless, remember the golden rule of roleplaying: "You are not your character." Arnold Schwarzenegger is no more Conan the Cimmerian than I am an Elven Magus with an intelligent sword that constantly tries to get me laid.


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The Mad Badger wrote:
Urizen wrote:

I personally don't get why Evangelists fear communists.

Communism, if you take the etymological syntax of the word, is something that Jesus preached & practiced.

Or was that one ignored along with wearing clothes of blended wool and linen?

I prefer 100% cotton, myself.

Ah one slight difference communists at least those in the Soviet Union and I know we get in a slippery slope here but work with me on the fact. They went out of their way to outlawed religion and create a state with no religion was allowed and persecuted those who practiced it. So I guess that maybe were the fear factor comes in even if they had some very similar causes and teachings. Please don't take this as I believe Obama is a communist. I was only reposnding to Urizen here and I know he was tongue in cheek.

Correct. I was being tongue-in-cheek.

But to expand on the slippery slope concerning the thought process of crazy Uncle Joe. When Stalin and other "communist regimes" of that era refashioned Marxism into 'Socialism-in-Drag', it wasn't on behalf of atheism: it was for the State.

What they did not want was the devotion of the hoi polloi to be divided between the church and the state; the brand they were peddling demanded an unequivocal devotion to their political ideology. Any 'atheistic' principles that were part and parcel of the propaganda were used to disfranchise those from religion and to the ideologue.

Atheism, by definition, does not have a political leaning or moral teaching; it only takes the position of "there is no god."


BigNorseWolf wrote:
Urizen wrote:
I personally don't get why Evangelists fear communists.

Its because the american evangelical religion isn't just christianity: Its christian AmeeRiiiCAAAAA, baseball, mom, apple pie, the founding saints, truth justice, and the American way... and that includes capitalism.

Also the largest example of socialism that was put into practice was a totalitarian regime that restricted several freedoms, freedom of religion among them.

I must confess I was being facetious when I made the remark. I should have been a bit more rhetorical. My error.

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Urizen wrote:
Atheism, by definition,

NO

DON'T START THAT THREAD.


Urizen wrote:
The Mad Badger wrote:
Urizen wrote:

I personally don't get why Evangelists fear communists.

Communism, if you take the etymological syntax of the word, is something that Jesus preached & practiced.

Or was that one ignored along with wearing clothes of blended wool and linen?

I prefer 100% cotton, myself.

Ah one slight difference communists at least those in the Soviet Union and I know we get in a slippery slope here but work with me on the fact. They went out of their way to outlawed religion and create a state with no religion was allowed and persecuted those who practiced it. So I guess that maybe were the fear factor comes in even if they had some very similar causes and teachings. Please don't take this as I believe Obama is a communist. I was only reposnding to Urizen here and I know he was tongue in cheek.

Correct. I was being tongue-in-cheek.

But to expand on the slippery slope concerning the thought process of crazy Uncle Joe. When Stalin and other "communist regimes" of that era refashioned Marxism into 'Socialism-in-Drag', it wasn't on behalf of atheism: it was for the State.

What they did not want was the devotion of the hoi polloi to be divided between the church and the state; the brand they were peddling demanded an unequivocal devotion to their political ideology. Any 'atheistic' principles that were part and parcel of the propaganda were used to disfranchise those from religion and to the ideologue.

Atheism, by definition, does not have a political leaning or moral teaching; it only takes the position of "there is no god.

Yes. Communism, as practiced by Stalin and Mao and today in North Korea, is state ideology with all the trappings of religion. It's not atheism, it's the state as religion.


meatrace wrote:
thejeff wrote:
The Mad Badger wrote:
A Man In Black wrote:
Grand Magus wrote:
Conan can whup' Chuck Norris easily.
Conan is a Republican too.

Now while I did enjoy Arnold playing Conan he is by no means "Conan".

I mean really get some reality here folks Conan was a comic and before that a character in a book. Arnold can't be Conan he was a little too big in my estimation.

Conan is a character in a set of (mostly) short stories by Robert E. Howard. He's been adapted in other forms, including movies, comics and stories by other writers, but I don't see any real reason to give the comics precedence over the movies.

Other than they were there first?

Perhaps that was badly phrased: The Howard stories were first. Which derivative work takes precedence over which other derivative work isn't important.


BigNorseWolf wrote:
Irontruth wrote:
Chuck Norris doesn't tell time, he just stares at it until it does what he wants.
Sounds like my newfie lab mix. "YOU WILL OBEY"

Dogs are clearly democrats. They feel entitled to handouts.


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A Man In Black wrote:
Urizen wrote:
Atheism, by definition,

NO

DON'T START THAT THREAD.

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Evangelicals are hardly a majority (though there are a lot of them). More importantly, they're not silent. They are the Christian Right and I doubt there's another religious group as politically active.

Thank you for clarifying and not lumping us all together on this one. I am being completely sincern on this.


The Mad Badger wrote:


Evangelicals are hardly a majority (though there are a lot of them). More importantly, they're not silent. They are the Christian Right and I doubt there's another religious group as politically active.

Thank you for clarifying and not lumping us all together on this one. I am being completely sincern on this.

We managed to throw down some adult beverages on consecutive nights during your sojourn to my cowtown metropolis. Other than nursing a headache, you got to leave in one piece. ;-)


my post was a response to the Jeff. I think I deleted the quotes by accident my fault. But I do appreciate the support.

Yes other than a nasty headache I did get to leave in one piece. Though perhaps because we a nice discourse and were respectful of one another's views and decided not to STOMP on one another because we might disagree but gentlemenly drank a hardy toast to one another and kept going. :)

Perhaps sometime I might be able to return. Or of course you could always come to my neck of the woods.

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thejeff wrote:
The Mad Badger wrote:
A Man In Black wrote:
Grand Magus wrote:
Conan can whup' Chuck Norris easily.
Conan is a Republican too.

Now while I did enjoy Arnold playing Conan he is by no means "Conan".

I mean really get some reality here folks Conan was a comic and before that a character in a book. Arnold can't be Conan he was a little too big in my estimation.

Conan is a character in a set of (mostly) short stories by Robert E. Howard. He's been adapted in other forms, including movies, comics and stories by other writers, but I don't see any real reason to give the comics precedence over the movies.

Because the comic was based upon the character in the book, not just using the name and doing whatever which is what Hollyweird is want to do.

If you've read the books you would understand why we have yet to really have a Conan movie.


Crimson Jester wrote:
thejeff wrote:
The Mad Badger wrote:
A Man In Black wrote:
Grand Magus wrote:
Conan can whup' Chuck Norris easily.
Conan is a Republican too.

Now while I did enjoy Arnold playing Conan he is by no means "Conan".

I mean really get some reality here folks Conan was a comic and before that a character in a book. Arnold can't be Conan he was a little too big in my estimation.

Conan is a character in a set of (mostly) short stories by Robert E. Howard. He's been adapted in other forms, including movies, comics and stories by other writers, but I don't see any real reason to give the comics precedence over the movies.

Because the comic was based upon the character in the book, not just using the name and doing whatever which is what Hollyweird is want to do.

If you've read the books you would understand why we have yet to really have a Conan movie.

The comic was many different things at different times. Sometimes fairly close. Sometimes very loosely based on the books. It just seemed strange to me to reference the comic and "Oh yeah there was a book before that"

I would love to see a Conan movie that actually adapted one of the stories. They're very cinematic. Some of them would work very well.


bugleyman wrote:

For goodness sake, people.

Don't.

Feed.

The.

Trolls.

The Troll. He deserves capitals.


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Pop quiz:

The fear of spiders is called?

Spoiler:
Arachnophobia

The fear of small spaces is called?

Spoiler:
Claustrophobia

The fear of Chuck Norris is called?

Spoiler:
Logic


Irontruth wrote:

The fear of Chuck Norris is called?

[spoiler]
Logic

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After this wacky sheit, no argument here.

Chuck be C r A Z y .

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Irontruth wrote:
Aretas wrote:

At Iron truth: Don't say it another way, show me how you support Chuck Norris is a subconscious racist? Focus, CHUCK NORRIS.

You're missing my point. This has nothing to do with Chuck Norris. This has to do with you saying the same thing too many times, that that concept no longer has meaning to me.

You know how when you say a word out loud a whole bunch of times in a row and suddenly it starts to sound strange? Its that. Your catchphrase of "this isn't racism" has become meaningless when you say it. Or maybe you're just unsure of what racism is.

I'm not saying Chuck Norris is racist. I'm saying your overall defense of republican's not being racist sounds like meaningless babble to me now. You don't actually provide anything in your defense except a counter attack. That might work in a firefight, but it doesn't work in logic.

By that same standard isn't the slinging of the term racist meaningless now anyway?


Sorry, Andrew, no matter how much you may wish for it, racism still does and will continue to exist. There will always be people who do not care for others due to their ethnic background.

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Freehold DM wrote:
Sorry, Andrew, no matter how much you may wish for it, racism still does and will continue to exist. There will always be people who do not care for others due to their ethnic background.

The accusation (too often false) is too thrown about, far too lightly.


Man, I can't wait til this election is over so all the armchair politicians on the web will pipe down and get back watching the Kardashians.
Also let it be none that there are two types of people in this world, Chuck Norris and not Chuck Norris. Even if Chuck was in theory wrong on anything he is still right because he is Chuck Norris. Much like your vote your opinion means nothing because none of us are Chuck Norris....

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well in fairness your vote means nothing because of the electoral college....


Andrew R wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Sorry, Andrew, no matter how much you may wish for it, racism still does and will continue to exist. There will always be people who do not care for others due to their ethnic background.
The accusation (too often false) is too thrown about, far too lightly.

If that's how you feel, you will miss out on valid accusations as well.


I can't believe in 2012 people are still complaining about racism when we have a black president. Somebody better call Oprah and tell her she isn't supposed to be so wealthy. It's hard to be downtrodden when you give away cars daily.
Besides everyone has some form of bias, everyone! It's damn near impossible to be a human being and not have any preconceived perceptions about a person, religion, or political affiliation. Even taking pride in your own race is a form of mild racism just because it is thinking along racial lines.


Sardonic Soul wrote:

I can't believe in 2012 people are still complaining about racism when we have a black president. Somebody better call Oprah and tell her she isn't supposed to be so wealthy. It's hard to be downtrodden when you give away cars daily.

Besides everyone has some form of bias, everyone! It's damn near impossible to be a human being and not have any preconceived perceptions about a person, religion, or political affiliation. Even taking pride in your own race is a form of mild racism just because it is thinking along racial lines.

And I can't believe we still have to fight racism in 2012.

A couple of extra-ordinary people succeeding doesn't mean racism is gone.
The first African American millionaire died in 1919. Was racism over then? (Apparently also the first self-made female millionaire in the US. Was sexism dead as well?)


Freehold DM wrote:
Sorry, Andrew, no matter how much you may wish for it, racism still does and will continue to exist. There will always be people who do not care for others due to their ethnic background.

Yeah! Have you seen these? [holds up various Paizo products]

Down with anti-goblin bigotry!

Vive le Galt!

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Sardonic Soul wrote:
Besides everyone has some form of bias, everyone! It's damn near impossible to be a human being and not have any preconceived perceptions about a person, religion, or political affiliation. Even taking pride in your own race is a form of mild racism just because it is thinking along racial lines.

Nobody's talking about eliminating bias, but rather eliminating institutional bigotry.


But every single person is biased. Including corporations.

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A Man In Black wrote:
Sardonic Soul wrote:
Besides everyone has some form of bias, everyone! It's damn near impossible to be a human being and not have any preconceived perceptions about a person, religion, or political affiliation. Even taking pride in your own race is a form of mild racism just because it is thinking along racial lines.
Nobody's talking about eliminating bias, but rather eliminating institutional bigotry.

Against affirmative action are you?


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Andrew R wrote:
Against affirmative action are you?

Affirmative action isn't institutional bigotry. It's a (crude) tool to reverse the effects of institutional bigotry.

Here is a simple illustration of the concept.


A Man In Black wrote:
Andrew R wrote:
Against affirmative action are you?

Affirmative action isn't institutional bigotry. It's a (crude) tool to reverse the effects of institutional bigotry.

Here is a simple illustration of the concept.

I like that one.

Dammit. Now I just wasted half an hour reading his cartoons.

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A Man In Black wrote:
Andrew R wrote:
Against affirmative action are you?

Affirmative action isn't institutional bigotry. It's a (crude) tool to reverse the effects of institutional bigotry.

Here is a simple illustration of the concept.

Except that is EXACTLY what it is. We will "help" the right groups because of the past. F**k the white poor son of an immigrant that needs a job too. he must have white privilege to pay his way.


Every four years I actually have to remind myself that this is the one reason an Hereditary head of state is a good thing..and I'm a Republican..not the GOP variety either.


Stupid US elections - they take too long to resolve and they give licence for people to be dicks to each-other and make the off topic boards boring.


DM Wellard wrote:
Every four years I actually have to remind myself that this is the one reason an Hereditary head of state is a good thing..and I'm a Republican..not the GOP variety either.

Ha you were thinking what I was thinking...

Its been almost too years first the republicans fighting over who it should be and then the build up to election - too long too boring.


Although of course, it's not just "the past". Discrimination continues to this day. There have been studies suggesting that, controlling for other variables, blacks were less likely to be hired than whites and even less likely to be hired for better positions.
Which really makes sense. Racism was openly accepted in much of the US, even in my childhood. Are we really supposed to believe that everyone raised in that environment has completely rejected it?


Well we dwarves have to stick together..


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Wow, after this >47% rant<, I think Mittens is bad ass again.

Now, I'm on the fence again and don't know who to vote for:

1. Obama - and trigger 1,000 years of darkness ?
2. Mittens - and trigger 1,000 years of darkness ?

Decisions... decisions.

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DM Wellard wrote:
Well we dwarves have to stick together..

You do have a very handsome beard, how do you keep it so shiny?

I find I am constantly having to wash Orc blood out of mine.


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Grand Magus wrote:

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Wow, after this >47% rant<, I think Mittens is bad ass again.

Now, I'm on the fence again and don't know who to vote for:

1. Obama - and trigger 1,000 years of darkness ?
2. Mittens - and trigger 1,000 years of darkness ?

Decisions... decisions.

.

Maybe this will help.


Andrew R wrote:
A Man In Black wrote:
Andrew R wrote:
Against affirmative action are you?

Affirmative action isn't institutional bigotry. It's a (crude) tool to reverse the effects of institutional bigotry.

Here is a simple illustration of the concept.

Except that is EXACTLY what it is. We will "help" the right groups because of the past. F**k the white poor son of an immigrant that needs a job too. he must have white privilege to pay his way.

I've never been in favor of affirmative action. It ended up being a quota system in faaaaaar too many ways to be palatable to me. I was in favor of identifying potential employees by Social Security Number, but even that's no good considering employers wanting to know your financial background and such. Very rarely do I list my race on identification forms.

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