I'm assuming this okay to do but while Raging, can a Barbarian still use Power Attack?
Yep, it's fine.
Yep, it's fine.
Thank you very much. I was anticipating that Hero Lab would have red flagged it when I clicked this in-play but I just wanted to double-check.
Pretty much anything physical based is fine with rage.
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Can a barbarian with Power Attack NOT use it when raging? Better question, me thinks.
Can a barbarian with Power Attack NOT use it when raging? Better question, me thinks.
That truly is an excellent question!
They can still make decisions!
Can a barbarian with Power Attack NOT use it when raging? Better question, me thinks.That truly is an excellent question!
Barbarian rage does not force the barbarian to attack in the mnost devastating way. He does not even have to attack, he may also resort to dealing reduced or nonlethal damage. He just lacks the focus to take any actions that require any degree of patience or concentration.
Not only is it fine, it's devastating...
There are times where you wouldn't want to, but they're rare and mostly involve heavy sunder-based turns against CMD/AC-optimized fighters.
If they're not, then barbarians have been breaking the rules for as long as I've known them.
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They need to write into the class description that rage is not always murderous and uncontrollable.
Barbarians, while raging, may:
-fight defensively
-use Power Attack, Combat Expertise, Deadly Aim
-use the Withdraw action
-Aid Another
-5-foot step
-Talk to their allies
-Spend a round not attacking
-Choose a target that isn't necessarily in front of them
-Drop rage, even if they haven't killed their opponent
oh yes they can !!!
considering 18 (+4) base str at lvl 1 wielding a large bastard sword 2 handed (2d8) while raging(+2) and poweratacking (you would need to be human to get both feats tho
you would have a bab of +7 (-2 for large weapon) but if hit would roll 2d8 + 9 damage
this is the whole reason why i want to wield a large greatsword :-) (3d6) (even though its not permited by the rules
They need to write into the class description that rage is not always murderous and uncontrollable.
Barbarians, while raging, may:
-fight defensively
-use Power Attack, Combat Expertise, Deadly Aim
-use the Withdraw action
-Aid Another
-5-foot step
-Talk to their allies
-Spend a round not attacking
-Choose a target that isn't necessarily in front of them
-Drop rage, even if they haven't killed their opponent
Can they chose to deal nonlethal damage?
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Can they chose to deal nonlethal damage?They need to write into the class description that rage is not always murderous and uncontrollable.
Barbarians, while raging, may:
-fight defensively
-use Power Attack, Combat Expertise, Deadly Aim
-use the Withdraw action
-Aid Another
-5-foot step
-Talk to their allies
-Spend a round not attacking
-Choose a target that isn't necessarily in front of them
-Drop rage, even if they haven't killed their opponent
Yup. You can take -4 to deal non-lethal damage, and you can also rage with a sap. You can use the Bludgeoner feat while raging if you like.
Using the flat of your sword/aiming differently doesn't seem to be something that'd require patience or concentration, so I'd assume so.
Could a raging character activate a special ability like inquisitor bane or his judgements?
I had the idea to build a wild rager that uses the bludgeoner feat to deal nonlethal damage and thus circumvents the drawback that he attacks his friends when he reduces a creature to 0 hp.
With nonlethal damage you never reduce one's hp.
Thanks so much everyone. This will be my first time ever playing a barbarian. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't trying to mash together two sets of rules that didn't work together.
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Could a raging character activate a special ability like inquisitor bane or his judgements?
As long as it doesn't require his casting a spell, yes.
I had the idea to build a wild rager that uses the bludgeoner feat to deal nonlethal damage and thus circumvents the drawback that he attacks his friends when he reduces a creature to 0 hp.
With nonlethal damage you never reduce one's hp.
Not entirely true. Once you've knocked someone unconscious with non-lethal damage, any further non-lethal damage becomes lethal.
Not entirely true. Once you've knocked someone unconscious with non-lethal damage, any further non-lethal damage becomes lethal.I had the idea to build a wild rager that uses the bludgeoner feat to deal nonlethal damage and thus circumvents the drawback that he attacks his friends when he reduces a creature to 0 hp.
With nonlethal damage you never reduce one's hp.
OK never was not right.
But I meant that the chance to go nuts is much less than with normal damage.
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Could a raging character activate a special ability like inquisitor bane or his judgements?As long as it doesn't require his casting a spell, yes.
Not entirely true. Once you've knocked someone unconscious with non-lethal damage, any further non-lethal damage becomes lethal.I had the idea to build a wild rager that uses the bludgeoner feat to deal nonlethal damage and thus circumvents the drawback that he attacks his friends when he reduces a creature to 0 hp.
With nonlethal damage you never reduce one's hp.
Not precise enough. A creature continues to accumulate non-lethal damage until it has an amount of non-lethal damage equal to it's maximum, not current hit points.
For example, warrior A (him again!) has 100hp when undamaged. Right now the poor sap IS damaged; he's down to 40hp. He also has accumulated 35 non-lethal damage from a very strange barbarian. Said barbar whacks him upside the head for another 20 non-lethal. Warrior A now has 40hp out of 100 and 55 non-lethal, and falls unconscious. The barbar is feeling enthusiastic today and, instead of applying a coup de grace on the helpless 'A' (I can call him 'A') decides to have some sick fun and does a full attack dealing non-lethal damage each time.
For simplicity let's say the barbar, despite hanging on to sanity by an increasingly slender thread, does 20 non-lethal with each hit. After the first hit 'A' is on 40hp with 75 NL, after the second 40hp with 95 NL, after the third 25hp with 100 NL, after the fourth 5hp with 100 NL.
After which the barbar's party lead him away, sucking his thumb, to be read a nice story. If he'd been allowed to carry on, after the next hit 'A' would be on -15hp and 100 NL, and since he only has 14 Con (I know, right! ...grumble, grumble...bloody point-buy grumble, grumble)
Just wanted to loop back around to this topic. We played last week and my very first raging power attack roll was a confirmed critical hit!
48 points of damage!