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I asked Mr Jacobs if we might get a Fey Revisited book next year and he said yes and that is was already anounced. I don't remember anyone saying anything about it from GenCon so this news to me.

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Dragon78 wrote:
I asked Mr Jacobs if we might get a Fey Revisited book next year and he said yes and that is was already anounced. I don't remember anyone saying anything about it from GenCon so this news to me.

Which Mr Jacobs did you ask? the one for this Gencon or one of the ones from future Gencons?


James Jacobs

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Dragon78 wrote:
James Jacobs

Hmm I guess that missed target. I was asking which James Jacobs the one from Gencon 2012 or the one that traveled back in time from 2013 to help out himself in 2012... now it's not funny. :(


Heh, I got the joke, Dark_Mistress...

Anyway, Dragon78, do you have a link to where he said what, exactly?


I am more interested in the fact that they are finally doing a revisited book for fey.

I hope they will be:
1)Pixie
2)Nixie
3)Dryad
4)Nymph
5)Gremlin
6)Satyr/Faun
7)Leprechuan
8)Brownie
9)Quickling
10)Redcap(or Sprite)


There was this great adventure that someone had put together, based around the Three Heads in a Well, among other things. I wish I could still find it...inspiring!

Looking forward to this book, also. The fae can be twisted, clever, mean, kind...but always interesting.

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Dark_Mistress wrote:
Dragon78 wrote:
James Jacobs
Hmm I guess that missed target. I was asking which James Jacobs the one from Gencon 2012 or the one that traveled back in time from 2013 to help out himself in 2012... now it's not funny. :(

Which regeneration of James Jacobs is your favorite? I like the 11th Creative Director...but you have to admit that the 4th is pretty classic.

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Kthulhu wrote:
Dark_Mistress wrote:
Dragon78 wrote:
James Jacobs
Hmm I guess that missed target. I was asking which James Jacobs the one from Gencon 2012 or the one that traveled back in time from 2013 to help out himself in 2012... now it's not funny. :(
Which regeneration of James Jacobs is your favorite? I like the 11th Creative Director...but you have to admit that the 4th is pretty classic.

6th the one I dipped in melted chocolate and kept on display.

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Dark_Mistress wrote:
Kthulhu wrote:
Dark_Mistress wrote:
Dragon78 wrote:
James Jacobs
Hmm I guess that missed target. I was asking which James Jacobs the one from Gencon 2012 or the one that traveled back in time from 2013 to help out himself in 2012... now it's not funny. :(
Which regeneration of James Jacobs is your favorite? I like the 11th Creative Director...but you have to admit that the 4th is pretty classic.
6th the one I dipped in melted chocolate and kept on display.

So what did you dip the 8th and 9th in?

(Joking aside, I thought this title's appearance in the schedule was pretty obvious for a while now. That, and Lovecraftian Madness Revisited. Shoggoths, for everyone!)

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Peanut butter and strawberry sauce of course.


I would also be interested to know if there is such a book in the works. Perhaps your memory is fuzzy or criss-crossed on what James's comment was about though?


He said the next revisited book will be for Fey. Now weather it will be called Fey revisited or something else, who knows.


well technically the next one after Mystery Monsters revisited


Well it is the first revisited book of next year is what I should say. But by most peoples reactions I gues it was never announced at GenCon. So maybe what he meant by already "anounced" was that he was telling me right then and there.

link

I have three seperate sets of questions, each with 5 questions, on this page he answers look for the 2nd and 3rd ones.

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I suspect what's happened is that a lot of the stuff we have been discussing comes from one source, namely Dale McCoy's twitter feed. He may well have missed JJ mentioning Fey Revisited ( and I'd be surprised if it's anything else...), and thus we've not been talking about it


Dragon78 wrote:

I am more interested in the fact that they are finally doing a revisited book for fey.

I hope they will be:
1)Pixie
2)Nixie
3)Dryad
4)Nymph
5)Gremlin
6)Satyr/Faun
7)Leprechuan
8)Brownie
9)Quickling
10)Redcap(or Sprite)

my hopes dryad, nymph, redcap, quickling, leshy, fomorian, sidhe, atomie, forlarren, korred, treant


Numerian wrote:
my hopes dryad, nymph, redcap, quickling, leshy, fomorian, sidhe, atomie, forlarren, korred, treant

Leshy and treant are plant type in Pathfinder, not fey.

Does Pathfinder even had sidhe?

Forlarren would likely be mentioned with nymphs since they're an offspring of nymphs as faun are an offspring of satyrs.

I'd like to see a good mix of good and evil fey, and definitely including nymphs, dryads, satyrs (and fauns), brownies, redcaps, leprechauns, and gremlins.

I'd love to see the winter dryad appear as a kind of dryad.


The Great Beyond guide mentions sidhe once

I was not sure the plant type disqualifies them, also some undead like yuki-onna, banshee ...


The book would only focus on fey so no undead, plants, etc.

I gues they could have the Pixie, Sprite, Atomie, and Grig grouped into one section but has long the Nixie and the Pixie get into this book I will be happy.


I think Nymphs and dryads might work better grouped together.

Norns and Bogeyman would be nice. I'd like to see a wide variety of CR and personalities presented.

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MMCJawa wrote:
I think Nymphs and dryads might work better grouped together.

Well they are both naughty and don't mind groups, not as naughty as us Succubi granted.

But they each deserve a chance to stand on their own and show of their attributes separately.

While us succubi deserve a 500 page book all of our own.


Nymphs and Dryads are different enough to get there own sections.


Dark_Mistress wrote:
MMCJawa wrote:
I think Nymphs and dryads might work better grouped together.

Well they are both naughty and don't mind groups, not as naughty as us Succubi granted.

But they each deserve a chance to stand on their own and show of their attributes separately.

While us succubi deserve a 500 page book all of our own.

Well, until you publish volume 2, I suppose 500 pages will suffice :)


So, this is really confirmed? It's not a fan request?

That's awesome! I love the "-creature type- Revisited" line. Even the one I didn't think I'd like (Giants). Those Frost giant images (specially the cover) are simply breath-taking.

It's not often that I'm willing to buy fluff-only books for a RPG system. (well, there are a few feats here and there, but not enough to consider it actual mechanical additions)

Thanks, Paizo!

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Forlarren are at the top of my list, but they're almost certainly not seen as being among the Big 10 fey.

I just realized Gremlins probably are. That means more possible pugwampi options.

...

Oh hell.

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Also, I'm not sure if they'll get lumped together, but I do hope the differences between satyrs and fauns are elaborated upon a bit more. For example, fauns will actually call you afterwards.


Are Forlarren the evil half-demon fey? I really like them. They may not be on the top 10 fey, but they sure are unique.

Silver Crusade

Yep, that's them!


I am VERY looking forward to this product. I'm currently running a "dark fairy tale" homebrew with 2 separate campaigns. Once of said campaigns is shaping up to be very fey influenced.

Before this new Revisited book comes out does anyone have any other resources I should be using? I've done some mods on my own, reskinning mites into "bog nits" (amphibious) or swapping out the heat metal on a forlarren for other powers. I've also got a PDF of Van Richten's guide to the Fey. Anything else I should own?


I hope on more evil fey like the Redcap, Kelpie, Boogeyman, Rusalka, Gremlin and Quickling, Dryad would be cool too, brownie and Pixies never got my interest.

Korred would be my favorite, I hope they give it an evil twist in the story and more rope/vine-like hairs and green skin like in the true myths.


Someone mentioned "sidhe" (also written "sí") upthread: that term is essentially the same as "fey/fae." I'm not sure that it would be a seperate creature under the listing of fey. I do agree with the odd cases of the yuki-onna (though this is Asian in origin and less familiar to me) and the banshee (less colloquially "bean sí" which just means "woman of the sí").


Mark Hoover wrote:
I've also got a PDF of Van Richten's guide to the Fey. Anything else I should own?

Fey Folio: Clans of the Fey Realm

The Complete Guide to Fey
Faeries (Bastion Press)
Bloodspawn: Creatures of Light and Shadow
d20 The Little People


Foghammer wrote:
Someone mentioned "sidhe" (also written "sí") upthread: that term is essentially the same as "fey/fae." I'm not sure that it would be a seperate creature under the listing of fey. I do agree with the odd cases of the yuki-onna (though this is Asian in origin and less familiar to me) and the banshee (less colloquially "bean sí" which just means "woman of the sí").

The sidhe was a monster in the Epic Level Handbook form 3.0. Essentially, they were super elves (like the Eldar from Tolkein). I think people might be hoping for a version of that.


Sidhe, both in pop culture and sometimes in folklore, was used as a descriptor term for the "courtly fey" (Fey royalty), Daoine Sidhe or Tuatha De Danaan would be a more precise term for that bunch


More then likely we will get Pixie, Satyr, Nymph, Dryad, Mite, and Gremlins. The Nixies are my favorite so I really hope they made it in.

I asked Mr. James Jacobs if the 10 fey have already been chosen and he said they have.


I don't think we will get Mite + Gremlin, rather only the Gremlin will make it.


Numerian wrote:
Mark Hoover wrote:
I've also got a PDF of Van Richten's guide to the Fey. Anything else I should own?

Fey Folio: Clans of the Fey Realm

The Complete Guide to Fey
Faeries (Bastion Press)
Bloodspawn: Creatures of Light and Shadow
d20 The Little People

And Finwicket's Bestiary: Along the Faerie Path. Oops, Mythic Menagerie: Faeries of the Fringe too.


can't wait for this book. satyrs, fauns, and nymphs are at the top of my list. with pixies, nixies, and dryads too.


Satyrs and Fauns? Aren't those to a little bit alike?


Sincubus wrote:
Satyrs and Fauns? Aren't those to a little bit alike?

Fauns are in Bestiary 3. They're the CG offspring of consentual pairings with a satyr, while non-consentual pairings result in CN satyrs. So they'd be listed with satyrs, I'd think.

Forlarren are the evil offspring of a demon and a nymph, so they'd make sense to be mentioned with nymphs. They suffer from melancholia after they kill someone because their nymph heritage gives them remorse.


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Mikaze wrote:
Yep, that's them!

Pssssst... over here.


Wolf Munroe wrote:
Sincubus wrote:
Satyrs and Fauns? Aren't those to a little bit alike?

Fauns are in Bestiary 3. They're the CG offspring of consentual pairings with a satyr, while non-consentual pairings result in CN satyrs. So they'd be listed with satyrs, I'd think.

Forlarren are the evil offspring of a demon and a nymph, so they'd make sense to be mentioned with nymphs. They suffer from melancholia after they kill someone because their nymph heritage gives them remorse.

I know that, but both fauns and satyrs at the cost of much nicer/interesting fey such as rusalka's and redcaps is just silly.

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Ambrosia Slaad wrote:
Mikaze wrote:
Yep, that's them!
Pssssst... over here.

Like. And thanks for the heads-up!

It may not completely restore their bipolar flavor from the Tome of Horrors version, but it's a cool take on them for player-appropriate Forlarren. Really like that they went with a -2 to INT rather than -6 that vanilla Forlarren haven't quite shaken off yet. ;)


Satyrs are better known and more commenly used then Rusalka and Redcaps. So I can see them(and Faun) as much more likely to be in this book. I think Paizo's love for Gremlins and mites means they have a good chance to be in this book as well.


I'd like to see rusalkas in the book, but with some lower-CR and non-Evil variants. (Like the CN one in Frostburn.)

Not that I don't like (and my players' characters hate) the CR 12 version from Bestiary 3. :)

And ditto for yuki-onna (sp?). I like having non-evil options for creatures like that.


Mark Hoover wrote:

I am VERY looking forward to this product. I'm currently running a "dark fairy tale" homebrew with 2 separate campaigns. Once of said campaigns is shaping up to be very fey influenced.

Before this new Revisited book comes out does anyone have any other resources I should be using? I've done some mods on my own, reskinning mites into "bog nits" (amphibious) or swapping out the heat metal on a forlarren for other powers. I've also got a PDF of Van Richten's guide to the Fey. Anything else I should own?

You might also like to look at Classic Horrors Revisited. It contains hags and derro.


Dragon78 wrote:
Satyrs are better known and more commenly used then Rusalka and Redcaps. So I can see them(and Faun) as much more likely to be in this book. I think Paizo's love for Gremlins and mites means they have a good chance to be in this book as well.

I know, but why would you spoil precious pages with look-alikes if you have much more interesting stuff available?

Can't imagen they could do that.


Sincubus wrote:
Dragon78 wrote:
Satyrs are better known and more commenly used then Rusalka and Redcaps. So I can see them(and Faun) as much more likely to be in this book. I think Paizo's love for Gremlins and mites means they have a good chance to be in this book as well.

I know, but why would you spoil precious pages with look-alikes if you have much more interesting stuff available?

Can't imagen they could do that.

I think you missed my point. They'd be included in the same entry. Much like how in Classic Horrors Revisited, all the hags are one entry, and zombies and skeletons are grouped as The Walking Dead in a shared entry. Or how in Undead Revisited, all the spectral dead are one entry. Fauns don't deserve their own entry in a Fey Revisited book, nor do forlarren, but both deserve some coverage in the entries of their parents, satyrs and nymphs respectively.

I'd also like to see rusulkas and redcaps included. Especially rusulkas because we need more illustrations of them.

Wolf Munroe wrote:
Sincubus wrote:
Satyrs and Fauns? Aren't those to a little bit alike?

Fauns are in Bestiary 3. They're the CG offspring of consentual pairings with a satyr, while non-consentual pairings result in CN satyrs. So they'd be listed with satyrs, I'd think.

Forlarren are the evil offspring of a demon and a nymph, so they'd make sense to be mentioned with nymphs. They suffer from melancholia after they kill someone because their nymph heritage gives them remorse.


That last post was to Dragon, not to you Wolf :p

Anyway I agree with you on your post then, however i'm more fan of evil fey so nymphs aren't on my wishlist at all.

Rusalka could use more illustrations yes, just like many pathfinder monsters (ettin, barghest, remorhaz) for example, and winter wolves which don't have art at ALL. :D

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