Kitsune Trickster is incomplete...

[Tempest_Knight]

I have been reading up on the Kitsune Trickster and noticed a fairly big omission.

The Kitsune's Charm class feature does not list what ability score is used to determain the DC.

[Are]

It should be Charisma. Spell-like abilities use Charisma if nothing is specified.

From the Bestiary, under Spell-Like Abilities in Universal Monster Rules: "The saving throw (if any) against a spell-like ability is 10 + the level of the spell the ability resembles or duplicates + the creature's Charisma modifier."

Edit: But I agree that the ability should have specified it, as well.

[Tempest_Knight]

@Are, but does the Bestiary set precidence for the game, also does the Universal Monster Rules hold true for PCs?

Mind, I like the Bestiary precidence better then the Rogue minor/major magic precidence(Int).

[Cheapy]

Ok, thought it was a bard ability.

Yes, universal monster rules apply to PCs as well, as does rules in the bestiary. Both of them when relevant, of course. There are only about 1 or 2 places in the rules where the PCs use different rules than the monsters.

In this case...I still think the intent is 10+1/2 your rogue level+ Charisma modifier. This is in accordance with all the other (Sp) abilities that PCs get.

[Mark A. Nattress]

The Minor Magic and Major Magic rogue talents use Intelligence however, so that might set the president for rogues. Then again, the Magical Tail racial feat uses Charisma.

[Abraham spalding]

No, that's an exception, not a rule Mark -- that's why it's called out as being different.

Note that Spell-likes default to charisma unless otherwise specified, those two rogue talents specify otherwise, the charm doesn't.