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Especially the young lah-deez!


Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
I love the youth.

That's illegal in most states.


That is not what you told me at lunch today man. You were b+%%~ing all about the youth of today and how horrible they were the young wipper snappers and the like.

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A quick note to remind folks that we don't really care for talking about other forums here. What people do on other sites isnt really relevant here.


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The Mad Badger wrote:
That is not what you told me at lunch today man. You were <bubble, bubble, bubble>-ing all about the youth of today and how horrible they were the young wipper snappers and the like. And then you stole my cheetos and told me if I want more, get them off the back of the UPS truck.

FIFY for clarity.


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I've never blocked anyone here -- too interested in seeing other viewpoints, especially the people who disagree with me.

Silver Crusade

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I don't take the internet seriously enough to get annoyed by it. I have real enemies that I have to deal with.

Stares at that ugly baby being strolled down the street.
There will be a reckoning ugly baby. Oh yes.


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DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:

I don't take the internet seriously enough to get annoyed by it. I have real enemies that I have to deal with.

Stares at that ugly baby being strolled down the street.
There will be a reckoning ugly baby. Oh yes.

Yes! You are right. Babies are EVIL!!! Look more closely next time you interact with one, those of you who refuse to believe. Check out their smug expressions and beady little eyes.

Clearly they are plotting your doom.

Liberty's Edge

DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:

I don't take the internet seriously enough to get annoyed by it. I have real enemies that I have to deal with.

Stares at that ugly baby being strolled down the street.
There will be a reckoning ugly baby. Oh yes.

Hey watch it there are plenty of people with baby avatars around here.


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Kirth Gersen wrote:
I've never blocked anyone here -- too interested in seeing other viewpoints, especially the people who disagree with me.

I think that's where the dissonance lies... I'm not interested in getting involved in fights, and comments that get my blood up I'd rather ignore as it gets me in a sour mood all day. Seeing one irritating comment in the morning earlier this week was enough to irk me until well in the evening.

So I prefer fights either never start, or I have some way to avoid seeing them.


People are different, people are passionate, people will defend their position, people react negatively if you tell them they are wrong and you won't change minds by angrily typing out a manifesto. You are just wasting your time doing so.

I try and remember the above before replying to posts. I am getting better at listening to my advice but I am not perfect and I will engage every now and again.

I have a small weakness - there are a couple of posters who pop up if something disparaging is said about their favourite subject and froth and pontificate. Their responses are very predictable. I like to read the threads as others do engage them and it sets them spinning like tops, I play the identify the logical fallacy game. Unfortunately I have given into the urge to poke or stir them, I don't do it often.


I used to post heavily on an unnamed forum a long time ago. A guy I was decent friends with got pissed about something I said and decided to both become a site moderator and start stalking me to various threads. Sense I couldn't block him and I was very angry, I just quit the site.

Now I just post here where the post volume is to high for me to care to get to know anyone and the moderators don't allow much content I'm really interested in without burying it in a sub forum or deleting the heated posts.


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There's several posters on this site I just avoid. I usually also tend to hide threads they frequent. I find it is easier on my nerves, as I tend to take Internet P-A trolling insults personally, even if they have a winky on the side.

I'd rather this forum had a no religion/politics rule, but the hide feature works tolerably well. Ignore features usually just leave odd holes in forum threads, which I then try and decipher anyway.


Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
Gark the Goblin wrote:
Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
STFU, Gark.
You just don't understand my generation.

What is there to understand?

Your music sounds like ringtones, your drugs are all synthetic, and the less said about your "fashions" the better.

Don't trust anyone under 30!

Doodlebug, you're my favorite.


Oh, thank you.

[Blushes]

Silver Crusade

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Everybody is different. No two people are not on fire.


There is no day so crappy that a lil Strongbad doesnt cure.


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DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:
Everybody is different. No two people are not on fire.

I endorse this product or service.

Shadow Lodge

Yes


Crippling depression helps! I can't muster the will to care enough to hate anyone more than I hate myself. Which isn't really saying anything, to be honest.


TheWhiteknife wrote:

There is no day so crappy that a lil Strongbad doesnt cure.

If setting pixelated peasants on fire and watching them do the Tiberium Candle Dance doesn't cut it, some FTP FPS carnage is a decent remedy. Unless you're getting smooshed by vehicles or rounded up into a vicious killbox at the spawn zone. Then you just have to drink heavily before going back in for more stat-trashing punishment. ^__^


Passive-agressive behavior is too common on the internet. I have, many times, on many forums, written posts while angry, and then, decided not to post my drivel. How mad should nayone be on an annoymous forum?

Liberty's Edge

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Freehold DM wrote:

gets on soapbox

Gary Teter wrote:
Just a heads-up to note that we do not want this thread to devolve into finger-pointing or posting of enemies lists or anything like that. Thank you.

gets off soapbox

never let me do anything around here, can't wait to move out... mutter, mutter

This guy's on my list. Not tell me about a burlesque show? Harumph.

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Gruumash . wrote:
I am too awesome to be at odds with anyone since everyone loves me and how awesome I am.

This guy's on my list, too, for living someplace with insane streets. Harumph.

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meatrace wrote:
Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
meatrace wrote:
I used to frequent the Eidos forums, back when I was really into a game they were producing, and had to leave because I got too much violent private mail.
By way of comparison, how much violent private mail do you get on here, Citizen Meatrace?
Zero.

Yeah, every PM I get from someone that I bumped heads with here is of the "sorry I lost my cool" variety, never a private continuation of the argument or whatever.

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Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:

Oh, thank you.

[Blushes]

This guy's on my list. He knows why. :P

Silver Crusade

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Nobody mentioned me yet? PFFFFFFFFT


I guess, when I came on here I had a not so positive expectation, which was quickly confirmed by some posters.

I do make a lot of inflamatory "my way is the only right way" comments because that is generally the way I think, and I get annoyed by "everyone should love everyone and never disagree" additude and the "I'm friends with that guy and will agree with him no matter how contradictory my statements are, or how wrong he is about xyz because the other guys in the gang dont like you!" additude.

To me thats like people are hiding their real feelings and intents in a form of annonymouos social media where it is completely un-necessary, and using a messageboard as an attempt to have a social life.

If your real feelings can get seriouosly disturbed by something somebody writes on a board or website, there is something wrong with you, not the guy being honest and direct about his opinion, or even a troll.

Should I care if others find statements I make offensive? am I really here to make friends? or am I here to find answers to the questions I have, and have fun with the debates/conversations?

last week, somebody posted this and it cracked me up for an hour...

http://xkcd.com/386/

that is the quinessential internet expirence... the internet is generally a way to mentally mstrb8 your time away in a cheap and entertaining way, and maybe glean a little info into a subject you find interesting.

To think it means anything more than that... I dunno... I find that belief a bit disturbing... like jay and silent bob wanting to go to some kids house and beat his ass over something he said on a messageboard... funny-weird, but distrubing...

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Gorbacz wrote:
Nobody mentioned me yet? PFFFFFFFFT

You're on my list for posting stuff in Polish on FB that I have to use Google translate on, and know isn't as funny in English.


Well, there are some people who will dogpile on anyone who uses the least bit of sarcasm, but offer heaping helpings of it themselves. It comes across as "Sarcasm is a right reserved exclusively for myself" and most certainly makes me think less of the people who do it.


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houstonderek wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

gets on soapbox

Gary Teter wrote:
Just a heads-up to note that we do not want this thread to devolve into finger-pointing or posting of enemies lists or anything like that. Thank you.

gets off soapbox

never let me do anything around here, can't wait to move out... mutter, mutter

This guy's on my list. Not tell me about a burlesque show? Harumph.

There was one girl there, dood, that we would have had to fight over. She was..ah..both our types.


Freehold DM wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

gets on soapbox

Gary Teter wrote:
Just a heads-up to note that we do not want this thread to devolve into finger-pointing or posting of enemies lists or anything like that. Thank you.

gets off soapbox

never let me do anything around here, can't wait to move out... mutter, mutter

This guy's on my list. Not tell me about a burlesque show? Harumph.
There was one girl there, dood, that we would have had to fight over. She was..ah..both our types.

We will be at odds with you if you don't produce photographs of the event.

<watches the second hand on the clock ticking>


Unfortunately, no pictures were taken. My phone was dying and the lighting was horrible for pics. However, that did not stop my friend from GETTING PROPOSED TO AT THE EVENT!!!!!!!!

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baalbamoth wrote:
some stuff that is hella long

wow man its like you dont even . . . think that talking to someone over the . . . phone is like . . . okay to be rude . . . lol . . .

Civility is applicable in all aspects of life, and there is really no reason to change your approach just because you are interacting through a different medium. People may not be discoursing in person, but in order to say anything meaningful they still have to engage and understand, and that opens the door to emotional responses.

These forums are not anonymous.

Spoiler:
Easter egg hypocrisy in this post.

can u spot?????

Also Randall Munroe is a regular user of the internet who has friends from the internet. That comic lampshades a common occurrence in internet discussion.

Dark Archive

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Every winter, I do holiday work for the post office, and all year long, I remember the occasional person who pissed me off. Then I go in, and *tons* of people greet me and welcome me back and I remember that I like working with ten times more people than get on my nerves.

I think messageboards are the same way. It's easy to remember the annoying posts, and until the Favorites feature was added, easier to forget the ones I liked. About once a month, I surf my Favorites, and sometimes check out the Favorites of the posters who show up a lot in my own Favorites, and that puts me in a much better mood about the messageboards, as I reminds myself of all the awesome posts.

Silver Crusade

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

I'll be honest I'm a big narcissist. I always check to see who favourites my posts. I like those people the most.

Dark Archive

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DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:
I'll be honest I'm a big narcissist. I always check to see who favourites my posts. I like those people the most.

Well, yeah, I do that, too.

I sometimes stalk other posters by clicking through their Favorites (and what posts of theirs are Favorited by Others) but I mostly just stalk myself, 'cause I leave a pretty easy trail to follow. (And with my memory, I can always count on being utterly enthralled by something I wrote a year ago, since I won't remember a darn thing about it...)

I also like to occasionally surf the Favorites / Favorited by Others posts of people who I *completely* don't get, to see if I caught them on a bad day, or they are always on a different wavelength than I am. Sometimes I end up gaining a new understanding of them, or find that I agree with much of what they say, if not one or two specific points.

Other times, I suspect they are from not just another planet, but possibly another reality entirely.

Eventually, it seems, posters with a little too much bitter in their coffee end up leaving the conversation, by one door or the other.

On a long enough timeline, the problem seems to sort itself out, and, in my experience, the most argumentative and confrontational and aggressively angry posters aren't just fond of that sort of thing, they tend to be pretty good at it, and attempting to debate with them is walking into a gunfight with a knife. Best to leave them alone.

Patrick Curtin wrote:
I find it is easier on my nerves, as I tend to take Internet P-A trolling insults personally, even if they have a winky on the side.

The internet trend of saying something completely inflammatory, and then following it up with a smiley emoticon, so that you can turn around later and accuse anyone you offended of not having a sense of humor or of overreacting, bugs me as well.

My internet translation guide;

Spoiler:

'Meh,' as a reply = 'I disagree with you, but don't care enough to refute your point, and so will dismiss you with my best limp-wristed half-hearted 'does-she-look-propped-up-to-you?' Queen of England wave.'

A one-word reply to a 600 word post that you quoted in full = 'I am too lazy to type 'I agree' or 'I disagree' to the previous post without quoting everything he's written, and don't agree or disagree strongly enough to have picked out any specific points that resonated with me.'

Announcing that you have Flagged a post/poster = 'Not only am I running to mommy to tell on you, rather than fight my own battles, I'm man enough to brag about it!'

'I hate to say it, but' / 'I’m sorry, but' / 'Umm, no...' = ‘I love to say inflammatory or antagonistic things / I’m totally not sorry that I’m about to refute what you posted in the most condescending manner I can.’

Obvious trolling, followed by a smiley = ‘When you call me out on being a jerk, I will point to the smiley and accuse you of overreacting / having no sense of humor / being a crybaby.’

Outrage = 'Something I didn't care about yesterday, and do all the time, but since it happened to someone I like, it's totally beyond the pale of civilized discourse.'

'Fixed that for you,' as a reply to a quoted message that has been selectively altered = 'I am an enormous *****bag and have discovered that, on the internet, I really *can* put words in people's mouths.'

Hitler or Rape used in relation to anything other than the guy with the mustache who died almost sixty years ago or the act of sexual assault = 'I have no sense of perspective, and like to use inflammatory and inappropriate language to shock and offend, and then, almost always, drop my wing and limp, playing the wounded victim after the fact and claim it was a joke and everyone is picking on me and blah-blah, concern troll about how political correctness is destroying our society.'

I'm just here to correct misinformation = 'I reject your right to have an opinion, and order you to stop saying things that threaten my precariously selective cloud castle world-view.'

'Political correctness gone amok' / 'I'm just telling it like it is' = 'I have no respect or concern for others, and refuse to take personal responsibility for my words (and possibly actions).'

Stormwind Fallacy = abbreviation of 'I disagree with you, but am too lazy to formulate my own rebuttal, so here's a link to something that may or may not be relevant to this specific example.'


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I am at odds with some people here, and they are at odds with me.

Sometimes it's fun, sometimes it's annoying. But usually something good comes out of it.


Set wrote:

*stuff*

** spoiler omitted **...

Meh.


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What is this thread about, I don't see any posts.


Well played, sir.

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I removed an offensive post. If you have a problem with another post or poster, flagging it is the best way to bring it to the Paizo staff's attention.


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houstonderek wrote:
Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:

Oh, thank you.

[Blushes]

This guy's on my list. He knows why. :P

I'm TCG's favorite AND I'm on HD's list?!?

[Blushes deeper]


Set wrote:
DM_aka_Dudemeister wrote:
I'll be honest I'm a big narcissist. I always check to see who favourites my posts. I like those people the most.
Well, yeah, I do that, too.

Am I a narcissist? Well, let's just say I really relate to that line from Annie Hall: "Hey! Don't knock masturbation--it's sex with someone I love."


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There are people whose posts sometimes irritate me and I occasionally get into b*!~&y back and forths with them, but my final feelings about those exchanges can better be described as amused than enemy creating.

I also know that there are people who I irritate because they often climb up my ass about all sorts of things but those people usually eventually either reach a point where they are ok with me after talking to me long enough to figure out what I am actually about(and also that my sense of humor honestly isn’t meant to be insulting)or they just give up completely on me so that tends to work itself out with time.

Actually one of the most common strong reactions I have to some other posters (some of whom I talk to, some of whom I almost never talk to) is to wish I could hang out with them for a day in real life, just because I both think we might really get along and have fun together and also because I realize just how much of who I am gets lost in translation on the internet and I suspect that the same is true of them, which makes me wonder: How much could we learn if we could just have fun face to face hang out sessions sometimes?.


Don Juan de Doodlebug wrote:
Am I a narcissist? Well, let's just say I really relate to that line from Annie Hall: "Hey! Don't knock masturbation--it's sex with someone I love."

But do you still respect yourself in the morning?


See, told ya Doodle. No play for commies.


Playing with yourself is still play.


Pillbug Toenibbler wrote:
Don Juan de Doodlebug wrote:
Am I a narcissist? Well, let's just say I really relate to that line from Annie Hall: "Hey! Don't knock masturbation--it's sex with someone I love."
But do you still respect yourself in the morning?

Indubitably.

Uh, so how are you today, Ms. Toenibbler? You look quite winsome.

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