Why no additional racial trait feat?


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Howdy. So yesterday me and the lads were playing Kingmaker and it occurred to me, thanks to the new races book, that I wanted a way to buy additional racial traits with feats but as far as I can tell no such option exists. Is it too unbalancing? Just wondering if there is a definitive answer to this.

Thanks.


Some racial traits are way too good to buy with a feat. Others aren't worth a feat. As a straight one to one trade, feats for extra racial traits is not a balanced houserule.


Racial traits in general cannot be bought as feats because their value varies greatly from trait to trait. The important part of Advanced Race Guide was adding specific values for each of existing racial traits (and racial traits invented for the purpose of that book) to allow building new races.

There could be added something like Evolved/Versatile Race feat that would allow picking alternate racial traits worth up to 3 race building points (assuming that bonus feat is worth 3 points).


I figured it might be something along these lines. I'm playing a cat person in our game and would love to have claws but I would hate to give up the other racial ability.

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Aaron Scott 139 wrote:
I figured it might be something along these lines. I'm playing a cat person in our game and would love to have claws but I would hate to give up the other racial ability.

Yeah, some of the trades are a little painful, but that's the cost of making your character more than a "vanilla" version of the race. You could always see if your GM will let you use the race builder to make something with both of those racial abilities...?


Several of the Catfolk racial abilities are, in fact, available as feats. I think there are two that say, "If you have X, gain Y also. If you have Y, gain X also." I don't have my book in front of me, but I'm pretty sure one of those involves claws.

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Catfolk Exemplar
Your feline traits are more defined and prominent than
those of other members of your race.
Prerequisite: Catfolk.
Benefit: You can take the Aspect of the Beast feat (Advanced Player’s Guide 151) even if you do not meet the normal prerequisites. Furthermore, your catlike nature manifests in one of the following ways. You choose the manifestation when you take this feat, and cannot change it later.
Enhanced Senses (Ex): If you have low-light vision, you gain the scent catfolk racial trait. If you have the scent racial trait, you gain low-light vision.
Fast Sprinter (Ex): You gain a 10-foot racial bonus to your speed when using the charge, run, or withdraw actions. If you have the sprinter racial trait, your racial bonus to speed when using the charge, run, or withdraw action increases to a 20-foot bonus.
Sharp Claws (Ex): If you do not have the cat’s claws racial trait or the claws of the beast manifestation from the Aspect of the Beast feat (Advanced Player’s Guide 151), you gain the cat’s claws racial trait. If you have either the cat’s claws racial trait or the claws of the beast manifestation, your claw damage increases to 1d6.
Special: You can take this feat multiple times. Its effects do not stack. Each time you select it, you must choose a different manifestation.

Also, this one is super awesome:

Claw Pounce (Combat)
You can charge and make an attack with your paws.
Prerequisites: Str 13, Dex 15, Nimble Striker, base attack bonus +10, catfolk, cat’s claws racial trait or Aspect of the Beast (claws of the beast manifestation).
Benefit: When you make a charge, you can make a full attack with your claws.
Normal: Charging is a special full-round action that limits you to a single attack.

Especially when combined with this one:

Nimble Striker (Combat)
You were born to charge your enemies and nobody does it better.
Prerequisites: Dex 13, base attack bonus +1, catfolk, sprinter racial trait.
Benefit: You do not take a –2 penalty to AC when you use the Cleave feat, Lunge feat, or when you charge.


Man am I blind. Paizo please note; do not hire me for any editing or proof reading. Good call guys, thanks.

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