The S&W version isn't finished, the PF version is.
Yes, but both have supposedly gone to the printer; how else are they going to meet their August deadline?
Where do you see anything about S&W going to print?
I guess looking at the last response from FGG at the Kickstarter website:
"Books will be back from the printer in late August."
As well as the last update:
"We received confirmation from the printers today that the book went to print."
I guess by "the book" that they are referring to both versions or not. If not, to have it back by late August, when is the latest it could be sent? or will the S&W print be later than the PF print?
Just wondering...
Guys, please, relax. Everything is under control, situation normal.
How are you?
We have done this a few times, all is well. Chuck knows his biznezz, and he is taking care of it.
SG
Some errors were found in the S&W stats and they are being fixed.
@TriOmegaZero, I didn't feel you were being hostile. No need for apology.
@Chuck, I have full confidence that you know your business, you are a vital and essential part of the layout and distribution of the final product. Let me take this opportunity to tell what a fine and excellent job you are doing.
So, I was simply thinking out loud (in print) and bemusing in a whimsical sort of way. I will wait in a relaxed and zen-like state for any additional info on this greatly anticipated product.
Zarathos — Everyone is allowed to ask. Just wanted to set minds at ease. :)
Definitely better to fix the errors and delay the product, IMO.
Ditto, what is another week to wait for a book that we will have for decades. Doesn't make any sense to me to not fix everything that can be located and corrected.
My two cents.
Is this just going to print the right number of books for the Kickstarter supporters? Or will it be available to buy as normal? (Without all the extra goodies, of course!)
If things go the way we are working towards, you will not only be able to purchase this from Paizo's website, but also from various game and book stores.
And yes, the Kickstarter only special goodies remain only for those who pledged their support.
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Now I have the phrase "Rap on Athuk action" stuck in my head.
I feel dirty and I don't know why.
Well, I got a preview copy of a review for RA the other day, which should be available next week or so.
Very positive review. Im extremely eager to see what you all have to say at the end of August.
SG
I'm a bit confused. How do I order a copy? I click on buy and it takes me to the Kickstarter...
@Veldan - you can buy RA as soon as it's released and if you pledged, you could buy additional goodies - for now, the kicksterter is closed.
Okay...thought I had missed out on being able to buy a copy!
GASP
I don't really know Skeeter that well, but I'm pretty sure I don't want to kiss him.SG, you forgot the rest of that saying.
"One day, one day my friend, POW! right in the kisser!"
SG is not down with tentacle.
...and we should probably stop this pretty quick, before we get banned.
I was not hinting at anything inappropriate, Skeeter. It was a very old joke when I was younger. I guess it doesn't translate well over the internet. My apologies.
I was not hinting at anything inappropriate, Skeeter. It was a very old joke when I was younger. I guess it doesn't translate well over the internet. My apologies.
That show was off the air long before I was born and I got it. :)
ps--we developed a database tracking deal for shipping bills--its still being tested. We will send bills out as soon as it works every time:)
So I have been tasked with testing and collecting the data. This part of my job sucks. lol We are in the final stages of testing now and hope to have invoices go out this week. I know we said that last week but we ran into some snags that we thought best to fix first. As Bill said we are moving over to a new bigger and better system so we need to make sure it is perfect.
I was not hinting at anything inappropriate, Skeeter. It was a very old joke when I was younger. I guess it doesn't translate well over the internet. My apologies.That show was off the air long before I was born and I got it. :)
Yeah, The Honeymooners. Who doesn't know that line?
Skeeter was more recriminating what he and Kthulhu were saying to each other, I believe.
I was not hinting at anything inappropriate, Skeeter. It was a very old joke when I was younger. I guess it doesn't translate well over the internet. My apologies.That show was off the air long before I was born and I got it. :)Yeah, The Honeymooners. Who doesn't know that line?
Skeeter was more recriminating what he and Kthulhu were saying to each other, I believe.
Chuck is correct. Silverhair, no issues with your comments at all.
Kthulhu, issues with your comments! lol j/k
its all good, my friends. if we can't joke around with each other, what's the world coming to*?
*it involves being devoured by demon-frogs, i can tell you that much...
I would do it, but I don't have an account on it.
I got the Kickstarter update email last night. It was good to see where things are at, but there was a piece of the puzzle that I didn't see any mention about: the d20Pro map files and the Hero Lab encounter files. What is the status on these? Will they release with the pdfs? How will they be released? I'm envisioning a big zip file, but I'm curious to hear FGG's thoughts on this.
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Finally, and I'll just come out and say this, is it necessary to wait for the invoices to go out before releasing the pdfs? Aren't the invoices just for shipping on the physical products, whereas the content of the pdfs was already purchased with our Kickstarter pledges?
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I'm not judging; it just seemed like an odd delay. If it's just a matter of not having time to get them uploaded, I totally understand. I'm sure you guys are burning the candle at both ends trying to get this stuff done and out the door.
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As always, nothing but respect and admiration for you guys; keep up the good work.
The pdfs are still being finalized, they don't have any tie-in with the invoices. As stated about a dozen times now, there were errors in the S&W version, and chuck and Aaron are getting them fixed, and when that's done they will be uploaded.
We are still working on the digital aspects as well, so the d20 Pro and HeroLab files will be coming out when they're done.
Honestly, this Kickstarter was a WAY bigger effort than even we thought. While we love our fans and the show of support, we we're not as prepared as we thought. We'll do better next time, for sure :-)
I know for a fact, once you guys see all the stuff you'll get in your swag boxes (I've only seen some of the finished product myself, and not even all at once!), you'll be very impressed.
SG
An artist friend of mine used to silkscreen t-shirts which he sold on Ebay, at arts festivals, and so on - they got "discovered" and suddenly he had about 3000 orders: this is at once "fantastic" and "uh oh". So, I totally understand :)
Personally, I never rush the chef - I'd rather wait a little for the best product. Until then, I'll appreciate the occasional update.
Good luck with all the cat chasing in getting the product out; I look forward to seeing it!
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My understanding is that some people have contributed to other kickstarters and two years later they are still waiting for everything they were promised and sometimes for the actual project to be completed.
I think that if we have to wait weeks or even longer for the Frogs to get everything done they are still way ahead of the curve.
The difference between this kickstarter and many others is that most of the writing was done before the kickstarter ended and now we are into finalizing things and getting them printed, etc. This undertaking could have easily taken a year or more to get to us (Remember the Tsar). And Even though I am anxious to read it, I am happy it is not going to be months or more before they get it to us.
Pledged!
My understanding is that some people have contributed to other kickstarters and two years later they are still waiting for everything they were promised and sometimes for the actual project to be completed.
Heck, they're still waiting for regular communication from those that got the money.
FGG is so far ahead of the curve that they've almost lapped it.
Anxious definitely describes my attitude towards this Kickstarter, but absolutely nothing negative has crossed my mind.
Keep up the awesome work, folks!!
On the S&W kickstarter, we hit the $15,000 bonus level. Erol Otus does the cover art on both the S&W Rulebook and Monster book!
My poor wallet T_T
Anyway! $491 away from colouring books in the S&W Kickstarter!
(Maybe a frog should start a new thread in case people who don't get the newsletter/visit the website/read this thread etc. can find out about it?)