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Tirisfal wrote:Rysky wrote:Why would I want to expose my eye to dysentery? ;)Tirisfal wrote:Keep an eye out for Dysentery.That makes me want to move to Oregon even more.
I'm hoping we'll be questing our way into the Pacific Northwest sometime in the next year or so because I'm tired of the angry, conservative-minded (not calling out republicans, conservative) vitriol I have to deal with every day down here in Northwest Florida. Granted, its something I'll never completely escape, but I hear its better up there.
Anyone got any tips for making our way out that way?
I dunno, whose eyes are they anyway?
*stares down the Pumpkin gourd*
I found them, ok?

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This gives me hope. Oregon and Washington love trying to one-up each other.
Maybe it says something about me as a Portland-er, that I love Shadowrun so much; Seattle's really only worthwhile if you slap some cyberpunk dystopia on it.
More relevantly, though, the thing about Oregon is that there are a few cities with huge liberal populations, but the more rural parts of the state are much more conservative (or at least that's what I hear). The way I understand it, though, pretty much anywhere is better than Florida.

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A bit of trans history worth reading - an interview with Sandy Stone about the harassment she faced as as member of a feminist music collective in the 1970s. It's a bit angering.
Edit to add: And not at all surprising if you know your trans history. Still. Ugh.

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More relevantly, though, the thing about Oregon is that there are a few cities with huge liberal populations, but the more rural parts of the state are much more conservative (or at least that's what I hear). The way I understand it, though, pretty much anywhere is better than Florida.
Yep that's the thing with seattle/washington as well. Once you get out of the big cities, things get pretty conservative.

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mechaPoet wrote:More relevantly, though, the thing about Oregon is that there are a few cities with huge liberal populations, but the more rural parts of the state are much more conservative (or at least that's what I hear). The way I understand it, though, pretty much anywhere is better than Florida.Yep that's the thing with seattle/washington as well. Once you get out of the big cities, things get pretty conservative.
Wisconsin's much the same.

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Lissa Guillet wrote:Wisconsin's much the same.mechaPoet wrote:More relevantly, though, the thing about Oregon is that there are a few cities with huge liberal populations, but the more rural parts of the state are much more conservative (or at least that's what I hear). The way I understand it, though, pretty much anywhere is better than Florida.Yep that's the thing with seattle/washington as well. Once you get out of the big cities, things get pretty conservative.
True but in oregon and washington, we have more people in the larger cities to outnumber the more conservative areas. ^_^

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KSF wrote:True but in oregon and washington, we have more people in the larger cities to outnumber the more conservative areas. ^_^Lissa Guillet wrote:Wisconsin's much the same.mechaPoet wrote:More relevantly, though, the thing about Oregon is that there are a few cities with huge liberal populations, but the more rural parts of the state are much more conservative (or at least that's what I hear). The way I understand it, though, pretty much anywhere is better than Florida.Yep that's the thing with seattle/washington as well. Once you get out of the big cities, things get pretty conservative.
Lucky.

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Not as bad as going to visit the family in Okla-arkansas,
I've actually been treated well by a number of people in Oklahoma when I've been there. I don't remotely want to discount your experiences, but it's valuable to remember, I think, that there are good people all around, even when they're not in the majority. (Finding them, though, may be a matter of luck and happenstance.)

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As someone who lived for extended periods of time in OKC, Tulsa, and Stillwater, there are pockets of people who are very liberal and a large portion of moderate don't cares, but the voting public is largely horrifyingly overwelmingly socially conservative. I never felt safe outside of those pockets really and okc has a few very large hotspots while tulsa always felt really distributed and somewhat more moderate except for pockets of extreme social conservatism surrounding ORU and some of the larger churches. I actually sat through a conversation where my boss was trying to convince a coworker that gay people who are saved still go to hell because obviously they never were saved because they're still gay. Good times...

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Yeah, Florida is just a hole if you're LGBT. There are some liberal strongholds--mostly college towns--but most of the state is proudly ignorant and/or crotchety old traditionalists. My high school threatened to expel me for being trans my senior year, and I was the valedictorian AND in a large city AND wasn't presenting as anything but androgynous in school.

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I actually sat through a conversation where my boss was trying to convince a coworker that gay people who are saved still go to hell because obviously they never were saved because they're still gay. Good times...
A few weeks ago I sat through a conversation between my general manager and her assistant. While she was away, she thought that she heard from someone else that one of the associates was a witch, and how she was ready to fire her when she got back in town because "witches and satanists sacrifice goats and *stuff*", but she found out she misheard so everything was okay.

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So my appendix tried to murder me on Sunday, but I'm alive!
Anyway, the latest edition of the world's oldest table top RPG has some things to say on the topic of gender identity...is that something we're allowed to discuss on these boards, Crystal? Lissa? Because it struck me as interesting.
And here I thought we might find your plot being tended to by Lillian Voss, waiting for the Val'kyr to come by...
Also, can you peeps differentiate between accepting and non without going "liberal" and "conservative". I'm conservative, and I really don't care who puts what where and why since it's just none of my business.

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Here's another bit of trans history, an interview with Janis Walworth, the cisgender lesbian who helped found Camp Trans across the road from the Michigan Womyn's Music Festival.
Really interesting and sometimes inspiring stuff. Some good pictures in there too.

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Also, can you peeps differentiate between accepting and non without going "liberal" and "conservative". I'm conservative, and I really don't care who puts what where and why since it's just none of my business.
Well, I was referring to socially conservative folks, who are generally "socially conservative" and aren't keen on their idea of the status quo being challenged, and has nothing to do with politics. It's not meant as a slight to anyone to make the statement that I feel safer in a more socially liberal town because I mostly get left alone to express myself however I want without fear of physical or verbal repercussions. That's not to say that conservatives are all automatically bad (nor would I ever say that all liberals are good); however, I grew up in a conservative town, and the few years I spent in a college town for work was a huge culture shock for me.
That said, I'm sorry if what I said offended you; I should have made a better word choice because it wasn't my intention to slight anyone.

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I don't mean to keep playing the trans history lady, but this bit of history is kind of cool.
So, it turns out that the first out trans person to be nominated for an Emmy (or to win one for that matter) was not Laverne Cox, but instead composer Angela Morley.
I'd seen mention of her recently (in connection to Cox and the Emmys), but hadn't heard the details until I saw the above article. She's not a household name, but there's a good chance you've heard some of her work.
She wrote most of the score for Watership Down (all but the first 6 minutes of music). She wrote music for the TV shows Wonder Woman, Dynasty, Falcon Crest and Dallas. (And one ep of Cagney & Lacey). And she worked (uncredited) as arranger, assisting John Williams on the orchestral arrangements for the Star Wars Trilogy, Superman, ET, Home Alone (1 and 2) and Schindler's List. In a similar capacity, she worked as an arranger on the music for The Right Stuff, Used Cars, The Day After, The Karate Kid and other films. And she wrote arrangements for the Boston Pops during the years that John Williams was conducting.
(And probably more obscure for most of you, prior to transitioning, she was the musical director for the British comedy show, The Goon Show, from 1953 to 1960. If you've never heard of it, it was an important precursor to Monty Python, as well as a launching pad for Peter Sellers.)
Going back to the Emmys, she had (if imdb is correct) 2 Oscar nominations, 8 Emmy nominations, and 3 Emmy wins.
There's a brief profile of her here. And there's a lovely couple of pictures of her (grabbed from a Falcon Crest blog) here and here

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Brox RedGloves wrote:Also, can you peeps differentiate between accepting and non without going "liberal" and "conservative". I'm conservative, and I really don't care who puts what where and why since it's just none of my business.Well, I was referring to socially conservative folks, who are generally "socially conservative" and aren't keen on their idea of the status quo being challenged, and has nothing to do with politics. It's not meant as a slight to anyone to make the statement that I feel safer in a more socially liberal town because I mostly get left alone to express myself however I want without fear of physical or verbal repercussions. That's not to say that conservatives are all automatically bad (nor would I ever say that all liberals are good); however, I grew up in a conservative town, and the few years I spent in a college town for work was a huge culture shock for me.
That said, I'm sorry if what I said offended you; I should have made a better word choice because it wasn't my intention to slight anyone.
No worries. I just see a LOT of the "Conservative = bad" thing on Paizo boards.
What? No repsonse to the Lillian Voss thing? And you call yourself a GAMER????? </storms off in a huff> lol

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For a change a friend posted an article about daily paper publishing article about a gay pair that went around no legal right to marriage or at least partnership for homosexual pairs by legally changing their surnames to compound surname made from their respective family names and giving each other wide powers of attorney comparable to what married pair gets.

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Wow... Just... *pinches nose due to stupid overload*
My middle daughter loves dragons and dinosaurs and she is having a dragon party for her birthday.
She went as Astrid* from HtTyD for her book week parade (don't know if you have book week in the US - but it's like Halloween without the candy and it's your favourite literary character and it's at school).
* Astrid has a different name in the books.
I spent hours making metal studs out of paper clay and painting them silver with my citadel paint. :-)
She came third and won a book...
Friends of ours are both art teachers and their son wins all the time.... He came as a dragon with a papier-mâché head... There is a friendly rivalry, we will never win but it is fun.
She came home very sad a few weeks ago and asked if she could change her party to a little pet shop party...
I asked why and she said are dragons for girls?.
I said yes they are who told you they weren't... ?
Apparently her best friends find them frightening, ugly and boy things.
I said you wouldn't stop your friends from having a party with things they loved, they shouldn't do the same to you. If they don't like it they don't have to come and you can invite other people.
We are having a dragon party again and her friends are invited.

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Know Direction posted their video of the GenCon Queer as a Three-Sided Die panel today.

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Know Direction posted their video of the GenCon Queer as a Three-Sided Die panel today.
'Twas a fantastic panel. :D

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It's Wear it Purple Day.
The site For Wear it Purple.
"Wear It Purple is a youth-led organisation that exists to support and empower rainbow (i.e. sexuality and gender diverse) young people. We are young people, working for young people.
Wear it Purple believes that every young person is unique, important and worthy of love. We believe no one should be subject to bullying, belittlement or invalidation: whoever you are."
My company has been very proactive in promoting the day, I am borrowing my wife's purple scarf as I don't own any purple clothes.

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sigh
My state just had to be the one to break the combo. :(
“This court is persuaded that Louisiana has a legitimate interest ... whether obsolete in the opinion of some, or not, in the opinion of others ... in linking children to an intact family formed by their two biological parents,”
So, *clearly*, the next step is to prevent people from divorcing if they have children, or marrying a non-bio-parent if they already have children, and to prevent any sort of adoption whatsoever, and to force couples that are not fertile together to divorce and marry only persons with whom they are fertile and to prevent marriage licenses from being issues to hot young fertile people and creaky old rich folk beyond their reproductive years.
'Cause if you don't do *all* of this, all that remains of this argument is the part you were too much of a chicken**** to say out loud, 'gay people are icky and shouldn't be allowed to marry the people they love or help raise some of the abandoned children that irresponsible folk keep discarding like so much rubbish.'

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sigh
My state just had to be the one to break the combo. :(
C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!
More seriously, I'm sorry man.

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Mikaze - sad wrote:sigh
My state just had to be the one to break the combo. :(
Judge What-His-Name wrote:“This court is persuaded that Louisiana has a legitimate interest ... whether obsolete in the opinion of some, or not, in the opinion of others ... in linking children to an intact family formed by their two biological parents,”So, *clearly*, the next step is to prevent people from divorcing if they have children, or marrying a non-bio-parent if they already have children, and to prevent any sort of adoption whatsoever, and to force couples that are not fertile together to divorce and marry only persons with whom they are fertile and to prevent marriage licenses from being issues to hot young fertile people and creaky old rich folk beyond their reproductive years.
'Cause if you don't do *all* of this, all that remains of this argument is the part you were too much of a chicken**** to say out loud, 'gay people are icky and shouldn't be allowed to marry the people they love or help raise some of the abandoned children that irresponsible folk keep discarding like so much rubbish.'
And of course, none of it means that LGBTQ couples won't have and raise children, it just means they won't have legal support while doing so.
Even if one granted that children were better off linked to "an intact family formed by their two biological parents", it would seem to me that children would be better off with married LGBTQ parents than with unmarried LGBTQ parents, which would seem to be the most likely alternative.
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Mikaze - sad wrote:sigh
My state just had to be the one to break the combo. :(
Judge What-His-Name wrote:“This court is persuaded that Louisiana has a legitimate interest ... whether obsolete in the opinion of some, or not, in the opinion of others ... in linking children to an intact family formed by their two biological parents,”
So, when two lesbians have a professional use DNA drawn from cell of one woman into egg of her lesbian lover letting them have a child of their own and be biological parents they can get married? Sorry gays, you need to wait to the moment when we will be able to coax your stem cells into forming an egg and later trigger your body into forming a placenta...
Also, does that mean that a commune of two men living with two women where each men has one child with each of the women can get a group marriage?