Ring of the Ram as a crown...Yes? No?


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Hi,

During an adventure a ring that needed to be recovered was being worn as a crown by a tiny woodland fey, who declared himself king of his glade after he found it and put it on his head.

Some players griefed that since it is not in the correct "slot" then the small fey should not be able use the item.

What would be the general consensus on this?

Personally I just thought it was too funny to not watch people get knocked on their butts by a small, ego maniacal sprite, I really hammed up the Napoleon Complex.

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Rule 0 it. Who cares if it's RAW if it's awesome and in no way unbalancing.

Just make it clear that only *this* ring was made that way and that most items are not. If a character pushes that point, say he can research it and figure out how it was done, but it probably makes the item cost more.


Well since he's too small to wear it on his hands where else would he put it? it's not like he was using it as a way to wear more rings than normally allowed...

as above, rule 0 it and tell them to have fun with it


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Raw says that magic rings size themselves to the wearer, so the tiny woodland fey could be using it as a ring, and would not be forced to use it as an impromptu crown. However, who cares, it is flavorful and funny.


Lochmonster wrote:


During an adventure a ring that needed to be recovered was being worn as a crown by a tiny woodland fey, who declared himself king of his glade after he found it and put it on his head.

Love it. That is great. You need to tell the player to get over himself.

(Speaking of magic rings: The party I am in recently fought a giant who was wearing a magic ring. As we were looting, the party made jokes about my halfling using the ring as a belt.)


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Great, now I'm imagining halfling wrestlers with the championship belt.

no belt, but all the attitude


I've seen published modules that had dragons or giants using necklaces as bracelets (say); I don't think there's anything wrong with a sprite wearing a ring on his head, as long as it's not just an excuse to benefit from three magical rings.


Never let rules get in the way of the fun. The universe won't collapse in on itself just because one creature wore a non-sizing ring as a crown and still got to use its powers.


Lochmonster wrote:

During an adventure a ring that needed to be recovered was being worn as a crown by a tiny woodland fey, who declared himself king of his glade after he found it and put it on his head.

Some players griefed that since it is not in the correct "slot" then the small fey should not be able use the item.

What would be the general consensus on this?

Personally I just thought it was too funny to not watch people get knocked on their butts by a small, ego maniacal sprite, I really hammed up the Napoleon Complex.

To me this is the kind of stuff 'rule 0' was meant for. You altered the rules-as-written to make a more memorable encounter without altering game balance.

But alas, you players are sticklers for the rules-as-written (all hail the Rules-as-Written!). Fine tell them they are correct. It can't be a Ring of the Ram. Rather it is a Crown of the Goat. Which functions in all respects as a Ring of the Ram except that it is designed to be worn in the headband slot of tiny creatures. Too bad it won't fit any of them now and the resale market for such a magic item is very small (no pun intended).

Grand Lodge

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Lochmonster wrote:


Hi,

During an adventure a ring that needed to be recovered was being worn as a crown by a tiny woodland fey, who declared himself king of his glade after he found it and put it on his head.

Some players griefed that since it is not in the correct "slot" then the small fey should not be able use the item.

What would be the general consensus on this?

That your players need to remove the large wooden objects they have stuck up their posteriors. And that they need to remember that neither they nor their characters know everything.

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That is totally awesome!!! Sounds like a fun encounter! I hope your players appreciate how creative you are! :-D


Great idea. :)

Magic items resize themselves so even if you wanted to use it as a ring it would work.
Their size excuse has been defeated.

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Size and Magic Items

When an article of magic clothing or jewelry is discovered, most of the time size shouldn't be an issue. Many magic garments are made to be easily adjustable, or they adjust themselves magically to the wearer. Size should not keep characters of various kinds from using magic items.

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