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Today, our GM attacked us with a giant crab who makes grab attacks. He thinks that when it makes multiple grab attacks, it can grab one character multiple times. So our barbarian was "grabbed twice" by this thing, and had to make two checks to escape. I said that was ridiculous. Please tell me I'm not wrong in thinking there is no such thing as this "double grab" this crab was doing.
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You can only be grappled once. Grab gives you a chance to make a grapple check as a free action.
As an example if I hit you with the first claw attack I can try to grapple as a free action. If I fail I can try again if I hit you with the other claw attack.
I agree, there is nothing saying that the "grappled condition" can be applied more than once. That said, when you CMB out of a grapple, you are removing the grappled condition. Also, my grappling thri'kreen has four arms and "grappling strike" (I made ALL that up). I think it unreasonable to assume that multiple appendages allow for "extra" grappled conditions. maybe a bonus to the grapple attempt though. But, of course, even humans have 2 arms...
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By RAW, you're right, there's only the 'grappled' condition.
However, I can sympathise with those, such as your GM, who believe there ought to be a benefit when two people gang up, or a creature with multiple grappling appendages hits with two or more.
The most I can see by RAW is that each successful grab beyond the minimum of one, could apply a +2 Aid Other effect to the target escape DC of the highest CMD grabber involved.
TIme for an FAQ?
Well having two or more apendages on the target doesn't do anything but at least with two grappelers I believe you have to break both holds to get out.
Thank you guys for your input.
By RAW, you're right, there's only the 'grappled' condition.
However, I can sympathise with those, such as your GM, who believe there ought to be a benefit when two people gang up, or a creature with multiple grappling appendages hits with two or more.
The most I can see by RAW is that each successful grab beyond the minimum of one, could apply a +2 Aid Other effect to the target escape DC of the highest CMD grabber involved.
TIme for an FAQ?
Do you really want things like octopi, spuids and krakens getting a bigger check than they already have.
I agree that for purposes verisimilitude it should work, but monster designed to grapple normally have high enough grapple checks anyway. I doubt that one gets an errata.