The End of the Mayan Calendar on December 21, 2012 Thread!


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The ancient Mayan people predicted the end of time on December 21, 2012. Everyone knows this to be true, even if they deny it.

The Maya, who lived in Central America between A.D. 250 and 900, had a cyclical calendar that ran approximately one human lifetime, or 52 years (life was shorter back then). To account for events more than 52 years away, they devised another calendar, one that ran 5,126 years, and apparently began in the year 3114 B.C. Do a little math: 5,126 minus 3,114 equals 2,012.

It's more than just the end of the world, it is the end of time itself! There is really nothing you can do to prepare for it, so the best thing is to just ignore it. Live in denial. Keep going to your jobs or collecting unemployment. Then have a big party on December 21st, because it is on a Friday.

I am not sure exactly what hour the End will happen on that day, but let us just assume it will be around 7 or 8 pm Eastern time.

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can we not and say we didn't?

Oh yeah I remember....hide

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well that sucks, i had such plans for 2013...


~shrugs~ If is happens, then it happens. If it doesn't happen and I act as though it did... I will place my bets on the end of the world NOT occuring and be better off because of that. And if the world does end, then my credit card debt will be GONNNEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!


As I understand it, it's not really the end of the world, but a chance that the world might end. This has happened several times in the past, and while humanity tends to fare poorly in the whole business, it's really being blown out of proportion, much like y2k. As long as we can find a Mayan king and queen and get them to force thorny vines through their tongues and genitals, everything will be fine.

I call not it.


Happy birthday to me! No matter what happens on my birthday this year, I am going to be disappointed.

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Whoo! Since I'll be in Korea that day, it's a Saturday for me, and I'll be home, in bed, asleep.
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...Please, don't wake me up; I'll read about it on Sunday.


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You know, for a people that had the end of the world down to a science apparently, they sure missed the arrival of Cortez. Kind of a huge oversight there.

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The fact is the Mayan calendar has done this 4 times in the past. This calender is the 5th. Even the Mayans say it will not end... accept those those who want it to.

So join the Heavens Gate and get on your UFO trip. Leave the world to those of us that know the truth :P


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IceniQueen wrote:

The fact is the Mayan calendar has done this 4 times in the past. This calender is the 5th. Even the Mayans say it will not end... accept those those who want it to.

So join the Heavens Gate and get on your UFO trip. Leave the world to those of us that know the truth :P

It doesn't matter what the Mayans have to say about their calendar. Time, and everything else, will end on December 21, 2012. That is a fact and it cannot be disputed. The Mayans do not speak for the end of their calendar.


ThatEvilGuy wrote:
You know, for a people that had the end of the world down to a science apparently, they sure missed the arrival of Cortez. Kind of a huge oversight there.

Psst.

Spoiler:
The classical Mayan civilization which developed the Long Count calendar had collapsed about 600 years before Cortez. The Aztecs and the Incas were the ones taken out by the conquistadors. I apologize in advance if I'm being unneccesarily pedantic.


Well,

1)the math to match up the mayan and gregorian calendars was a little iffy: we're not quite sure when the two should have synched up, so getting 2012 to match the end of the calendar is a little arbitrary

2) Mayan calendars don't end the world, they end ages. Life goes on, just differently. cue music


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BigNorseWolf wrote:

Well,

1)the math to match up the mayan and gregorian calendars was a little iffy: we're not quite sure when the two should have synched up, so getting 2012 to match the end of the calendar is a little arbitrary

2) Mayan calendars don't end the world, they end ages. Life goes on, just differently. cue music

Life does indeed go on, differently. Different as in with a brand new 5126 year calender. Only 2.99 at Hallmark.

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I created the Mayan calender to lure you paranoids out into the open...Mwahahaha!


Acolyte of Leafar the Loved wrote:
ThatEvilGuy wrote:
You know, for a people that had the end of the world down to a science apparently, they sure missed the arrival of Cortez. Kind of a huge oversight there.

Psst.

** spoiler omitted **

You know you're my hero, right?


Acolyte of Leafar the Loved wrote:
ThatEvilGuy wrote:
You know, for a people that had the end of the world down to a science apparently, they sure missed the arrival of Cortez. Kind of a huge oversight there.

Psst.

** spoiler omitted **

They still should have stamped that date "Hernán Cortés de Monroy y Pizarro, Spaniard of the Apocalypse". In English, no less.

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BigNorseWolf wrote:

Well,

1)the math to match up the mayan and gregorian calendars was a little iffy: we're not quite sure when the two should have synched up, so getting 2012 to match the end of the calendar is a little arbitrary

2) Mayan calendars don't end the world, they end ages. Life goes on, just differently. cue music

True. In fact, we should instead look at it as the Mayans themselves would have. Not as "the end of everything," but rather as a "new beginning."

ThatEvilGuy wrote:
They still should have stamped that date "Hernán Cortés de Monroy y Pizarro, Spaniard of the Apocalypse". In English, no less.

Or, at least in Spanish.


How about we compromise with Pig Latin?


Lord Dice wrote:
Acolyte of Leafar the Loved wrote:
ThatEvilGuy wrote:
You know, for a people that had the end of the world down to a science apparently, they sure missed the arrival of Cortez. Kind of a huge oversight there.

Psst.

** spoiler omitted **

You know you're my hero, right?

I am a lowly worm and unworthy of your praise. Please turn your adulation over to someone who deserves it, such as Leafar the Loved!


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They still should have stamped that date "Hernán Cortés de Monroy y Pizarro, Spaniard of the Apocalypse"

I think "shoot them from the boat before they can give you smallpox" would have been a better warning.

-Don't ask with smallpox is, just shoot them.


And what happened to the "-do" at the end of Cortez's first name? There was definitely a "-do" there when I was growing up, but now it's disappeared!


Acolyte of Leafar the Loved wrote:
And what happened to the "-do" at the end of Cortez's first name? There was definitely a "-do" there when I was growing up, but now it's disappeared!

He's no longer considered a do-er.


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Lord Fyre wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:

Well,

1)the math to match up the mayan and gregorian calendars was a little iffy: we're not quite sure when the two should have synched up, so getting 2012 to match the end of the calendar is a little arbitrary

2) Mayan calendars don't end the world, they end ages. Life goes on, just differently. cue music

True. In fact, we should instead look at it as the Mayans themselves would have. Not as "the end of everything," but rather as a "new beginning."

ThatEvilGuy wrote:
They still should have stamped that date "Hernán Cortés de Monroy y Pizarro, Spaniard of the Apocalypse". In English, no less.
Or, at least in Spanish.

In order for something to begin, something else has to end. ~Mel Gibson


December 22, 2012. A new era will begin.

Prepared to be TebOWNED.

Resistance is futile.

-ett
Rev 3:16


Acolyte of Leafar the Loved wrote:
And what happened to the "-do" at the end of Cortez's first name? There was definitely a "-do" there when I was growing up, but now it's disappeared!

You're probably just remembering wrong, Anklebiter. I remember remarking on such things when we learned about him. Hernan doesn't sound like much of a name. Nonetheless, his -do was never revoked, as he never had it.

Silly goblin.


It's just the end of how far they calculated their calendar in advance.

Imagine if you had a personal datebook. You keep work days, weekend days, dental appointments, holidays, etc. in this datebook. You fill it out at the beginning of the year with approximate dates (like you always get your teeth cleaned in February and August). If someone looked at that datebook and said "wow, this ends on Dec 31st 2011. There's nothing filled in past that" would it be a rational conclusion that THE WORLD ENDS AT THAT TIME?! No. Just that you couldn't be bothered to fill it out any more in advance than that.

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after december 21, 2012, no one will ever again talk about the Mayans, and thus their world will truly be finished


The world cannot end on december 21st 2012... Why? Because I have irrefutable proof that life will go on after this date.

I just happen to have a can of beans that expires in 2014!!!

So there.

Ultradan


TheWhiteknife wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:

Well,

1)the math to match up the mayan and gregorian calendars was a little iffy: we're not quite sure when the two should have synched up, so getting 2012 to match the end of the calendar is a little arbitrary

2) Mayan calendars don't end the world, they end ages. Life goes on, just differently. cue music

Life does indeed go on, differently. Different as in with a brand new 5126 year calender. Only 2.99 at Hallmark.

Or different as in no more Mayan end-of-the-world predictions.

Who wants to get a jump on the 2060 end of the world predicted by no less an intellect than Isaac Newton himself!

Or, if you prefer end-of-calendar scenarios, there's always 2240.


Bobson wrote:


Or, if you prefer end-of-calendar scenarios, there's always 2240.

Interesting.

Well, I guess the world is replete with end of the world predictions. Let's just get used to the BS and roll with it.


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meatrace wrote:

It's just the end of how far they calculated their calendar in advance.

Imagine if you had a personal datebook. You keep work days, weekend days, dental appointments, holidays, etc. in this datebook. You fill it out at the beginning of the year with approximate dates (like you always get your teeth cleaned in February and August). If someone looked at that datebook and said "wow, this ends on Dec 31st 2011. There's nothing filled in past that" would it be a rational conclusion that THE WORLD ENDS AT THAT TIME?! No. Just that you couldn't be bothered to fill it out any more in advance than that.

THIS IS NO PERSONAL DATEBOOK! THIS IS THE END OF TIME ITSELF! WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?!?!


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Leafar the Lost wrote:
THIS IS NO PERSONAL DATEBOOK! THIS IS THE END OF TIME ITSELF! WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?!?!

Pics or it didn't happen.


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I've got a question: If the world is ending at the end of the Mayan calendar, why haven't any of the other ancient calendars marked the same point in time as the "end?"

Surely if the Mayans were prophetic enough to figure out when everything would end, wouldn't at least some of the other ancient cultures have as well?

And if it's a single, definitive date, shouldn't they all agree on when it happens?

And what do the quatrains of Nostradamus have to say about Dec. 21, 2012?


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modus0 wrote:
I've got a question: If the world is ending at the end of the Mayan calendar, why haven't any of the other ancient calendars marked the same point in time as the "end?"

It's a very simple answer to your question: the other ancient calendars are wrong! The Mayan Calendar is the only correct one that has an "end of the world" prophecy connected to it. However, let me remind you that on December 21, 2012 TIME ITSELF WILL END! The end of the world is just a side effect...


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My master is right: you are all doomed.

Genuflection before Leafar the Loved is the only possible way to escape from the End of Time. On your knees, worms!

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I'm very excited. This will be my first native American end of the world, you see. Up until now, every declaration of doomsday I've lived through has been announced by Christians. So I'm expecting something new, different, and possibly more chocolate-y.


You know, it's interesting because time itself is an illusion humans created to mark the passage of entropy. Essentally the universe slowly breaks down into a simpler state. Time is just measuring how long it takes for that to occur.

If time stopped would that mean that entropy stopped? Also, If time stopped we would we know it since we'd stop with it? I'm gonna say it's no big deal.

I guess the end of time is not worthy of speaking of in big letters at any rate. If you're going to use caps or huge letters at least rant about something rant worthy, like Lindsay Lohan still having a career or the popularity of "reality" television.

-Tundra

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a question; what was the mayan end of the world mythology? anyone know how this world is going to end by how the mayans said?

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I checked it out in my personal calendar and it did not work for me. The whole Jewish thing really works better for me than the Mayan thing ending time. So I spoke to the Mayans they agreed to call of this thing and wait until 2240. So we have more time now.

Sorry to disappoint you Lanfear, its already done though the world is no longer ending 2012. Its all settled so no sense in getting all worked up.

On an another note I plan on being in Takil for the end of this year but it won't be the end of the Mayan Calendar anymore they updated it.


I'm not worried; I stopped believing in Time as a New Year's resolution.


ulgulanoth wrote:
a question; what was the mayan end of the world mythology? anyone know how this world is going to end by how the mayans said?

If I'm not mistaken (and I may be as its been a Looonnngg time since I did any study on Mayan myth) The general gist is the typical end of the world natural disasters fire, flood, earthquake etc. But then you have the giant feathered boa constrictor with the unpronounceable name coming to the rescue of a select few to start the next cycle.

as I said its been a while since I did my study on these preferring celtic/norse/egyptian mythos.

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ulgulanoth wrote:
a question; what was the mayan end of the world mythology? anyone know how this world is going to end by how the mayans said?

Unknown.

However, the end of the "long count calendar" would be closer to the ending of the millenium, with the start of a new cycle. Not, the end of all creation.

However, the end of the world did happen. Pale skinned men, riding wooden ships arrived, bring both disease and fire ... (in 1519 CE)


How do we know that the guy who carved the calender died while he was carving?

Also, Leafar the Lost is a crazy person and probably shouldn't be listened to.


JMD031 wrote:
Also, Leafar the Lost is a crazy person and probably shouldn't be listened to.

That's ok, I don't believe Leafar exists either.

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I believe that the world should already have ended.

(If it so happens that some of your consciousness gets transferred back to the alpha, here is some handy info! Human civilisation ends on April 13, 2009, and the world itself ends on April 13th, 2422. It's completely improbable that you'll be a survivor, but you can try anyway!)


Wolfie, KC's #2 Buddy wrote:
JMD031 wrote:
Also, Leafar the Lost is a crazy person and probably shouldn't be listened to.
That's ok, I don't believe Leafar exists either.

Blasphemers, heretics and infidels.

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Acolyte of Leafar the Loved wrote:
Wolfie, KC's #2 Buddy wrote:
JMD031 wrote:
Also, Leafar the Lost is a crazy person and probably shouldn't be listened to.
That's ok, I don't believe Leafar exists either.

Blasphemers, heretics and infidels.

Well, it is not like anyone actually listens to the insane ramblings of a Literate goblin.


Whether anyone listens is beyond my power to control. I can only preach the word. Leafar is the way, ladies and gentlemen, all other paths lead to ruin and damnation.

It may be that I am a sexy, modern goblin Cassandra. That's fine--there'll be more frozen pizzas and video games for me!


Acolyte of Leafar the Loved wrote:
Wolfie, KC's #2 Buddy wrote:
JMD031 wrote:
Also, Leafar the Lost is a crazy person and probably shouldn't be listened to.
That's ok, I don't believe Leafar exists either.

Blasphemers, heretics and infidels.

That's ok, I don't believe your OxFjord comma exists either. Look, it's not there!


Acolyte of Leafar the Loved wrote:
Leafar is the way, ladies and gentlemen, all other paths lead to ruin and damnation.

But the Librul socialist communist speaky box said it wasn't Leafar, but Exit, who is the way (out).

Now I'm confused. Maybe it's my fault for not believing in pledge drives?

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