Deathspot can get too the part where he actually ambushes AM when he determines how he's actually got close enough too see him, I reckon.
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Yeah, noticing that the thing flying up in the air is a barbarian on a bat 600 feet away and not a hawk 200 feet away, etc, is definitely a Perception check. Sure, you see it. The check is for whether you realize what it is.
OF COURSE I realize what it is. How many AM BARBARIANS do you think there are?
Yeah, noticing that the thing flying up in the air is a barbarian on a bat 600 feet away and not a hawk 200 feet away, etc, is definitely a Perception check. Sure, you see it. The check is for whether you realize what it is.OF COURSE I realize what it is. How many AM BARBARIANS do you think there are?
Hey, until you pass your perception check you've either not noticed it at all, or think it's a bird.
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stuffThe point you're missing here, spot, is that you have not found a way to account for AM's constant movement. You can find his location, sure. But in the time you spend doing that, and then cast the next spell to get to that location, he's moved a quarter mile away. THAT is the problem.
Yes, I have. If I'm using wish it puts me in right where I want to be relative to AM. If the GM rules that my wish won't work that way, I'll just teleport in in what I guess is the right direction. If I guess wrong, I'll either teleport a little ways and ambush him (if I'm near enough), or I'll teleport home and try again later. I've got lots of time.
It's probably best to just accept the perception rules at face value DeathSpot. They are poorly written, but arguing about how it should work based on your real world ideals isn't going to change the rules in the book. Yes, they are horribly written. There are plenty of first level characters who have only a chance of seeing who they are speaking to right in front of them.
It's probably best to just accept the perception rules at face value DeathSpot. They are poorly written, but arguing about how it should work based on your real world ideals isn't going to change the rules in the book. Yes, they are horribly written. There are plenty of first level characters who have only a chance of seeing who they are speaking to right in front of them.
What? Did Drumlord just type something? Oh crap. I think I just failed a spot check. I just failed a spot check, didn't I?
How tough is BATTY BAT? I know you have all this silly anti-spell nonsense on him, and he somehow has crazy fly speed, but what does his AC and HP look like?
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How tough is BATTY BAT? I know you have all this silly anti-spell nonsense on him, and he somehow has crazy fly speed, but what does his AC and HP look like?
He's pretty tough. Oracle 2 / Summoner 16, if I remember right.
EDIT: Most of his speed comes from the Mount evolution, and rage powers from AM. Probably a high AC, but nowhere near the HP AM has.
How tough is BATTY BAT? I know you have all this silly anti-spell nonsense on him, and he somehow has crazy fly speed, but what does his AC and HP look like?He's pretty tough. Oracle 2 / Summoner 16, if I remember right.
He seems pretty specifically built to cart around the force of nature known as AM, so I'm wondering what it would take to actually kill BB.
How tough is BATTY BAT? I know you have all this silly anti-spell nonsense on him, and he somehow has crazy fly speed, but what does his AC and HP look like?
Admittedly, nothing has been said about AM BARBARIAN's hp or AC either. Although, one would presume that neither would be too shabby. Also, both values arguably do not need to be too astronomical since anything casty tends to be sundered before they can even think about touching AM or BATTY.
If I remember rightly, while AMs touch ac is pretty darn high, not much has been done to his actual normal ac. However if you are thinking of physically beating him then he will just counter with OH HO SO NOW CASTYS HAVE TO COPY MARTIALS TO BEAT AM? AMS POINT IS PROVEN.
How tough is BATTY BAT? I know you have all this silly anti-spell nonsense on him, and he somehow has crazy fly speed, but what does his AC and HP look like?He's pretty tough. Oracle 2 / Summoner 16, if I remember right.
EDIT: Most of his speed comes from the Mount evolution, and rage powers from AM. Probably a high AC, but nowhere near the HP AM has.
He needs to be a least oracle 5 to be immune to fatigue, so that makes him a oracle 5 / summoner 13
If I remember rightly, while AMs touch ac is pretty darn high, not much has been done to his actual normal ac. However if you are thinking of physically beating him then he will just counter with OH HO SO NOW CASTYS HAVE TO COPY MARTIALS TO BEAT AM? AMS POINT IS PROVEN.
I'm not asking about AM's stuff. I've specifically asked about BATTY BAT. And really, AM's whole death dealing is completely dependent on castys to actually work, so it's not that big a deal to me.
If I remember rightly, while AMs touch ac is pretty darn high, not much has been done to his actual normal ac. However if you are thinking of physically beating him then he will just counter with OH HO SO NOW CASTYS HAVE TO COPY MARTIALS TO BEAT AM? AMS POINT IS PROVEN.
Or the AC of BATTY might becomes so low to make summoned monsters actually a threat towards him...
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If I remember rightly, while AMs touch ac is pretty darn high, not much has been done to his actual normal ac. However if you are thinking of physically beating him then he will just counter with OH HO SO NOW CASTYS HAVE TO COPY MARTIALS TO BEAT AM? AMS POINT IS PROVEN.
BATTY BAT has to be an Oracle/Summoner, or AM is toast (far too easy to kill the bat version of BATTY, which means AM is on the ground and in real trouble). So he's already leaning on a caster like a drunk on a signpost. :)
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He needs to be a least oracle 5 to be immune to fatigue, so that makes him a oracle 5 / summoner 13How tough is BATTY BAT? I know you have all this silly anti-spell nonsense on him, and he somehow has crazy fly speed, but what does his AC and HP look like?He's pretty tough. Oracle 2 / Summoner 16, if I remember right.
EDIT: Most of his speed comes from the Mount evolution, and rage powers from AM. Probably a high AC, but nowhere near the HP AM has.
it's full oracle level plus half the total number of levels in classes besides oracle.
so oracle 2/summoner 16 works too. it could be immune to fatigue when AM is level 10. at oracle 2/summoner 6.
He needs to be a least oracle 5 to be immune to fatigue, so that makes him a oracle 5 / summoner 13How tough is BATTY BAT? I know you have all this silly anti-spell nonsense on him, and he somehow has crazy fly speed, but what does his AC and HP look like?He's pretty tough. Oracle 2 / Summoner 16, if I remember right.
EDIT: Most of his speed comes from the Mount evolution, and rage powers from AM. Probably a high AC, but nowhere near the HP AM has.
Funny thing is, your non-oracle levels counts a half-an-oracle level each for determining the effects of your curse. Oracle 2 + Synthesist (16/2=8) = curse effects of Oracle 10.
EDIT: Frickin Ninjas!
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He needs to be a least oracle 5 to be immune to fatigue, so that makes him a oracle 5 / summoner 13How tough is BATTY BAT? I know you have all this silly anti-spell nonsense on him, and he somehow has crazy fly speed, but what does his AC and HP look like?He's pretty tough. Oracle 2 / Summoner 16, if I remember right.
EDIT: Most of his speed comes from the Mount evolution, and rage powers from AM. Probably a high AC, but nowhere near the HP AM has.
it's full oracle level plus half the total number of levels in classes besides oracle.
so oracle 2/summoner 16 works too. it could be immune to fatigue when AM is level 10. at oracle 2/summoner 6.
Don't forget Heart of the Fields to make the caster spend another WoE on him, and Greater Ferocious Mount to let him share rage powers.
Never played it. Okay, I'll concede the point that BATTY BAT never sleeps. But I'll still assert that the divination combo I mentioned will suffice to spot AM, and put me close enough to surprise him.Fatigue immunity is NOT the same as 'never needs to sleep.' You're kinda reaching here. Okay, more than kinda.
BATTY BAT is a Lame Oracle. Natural fatigue immunity, thus no need to sleep.Character in carrion crown who used a charge of Lesser Restoration to remove fatigue every time it sets in.
Note that this worked, and exhaustion never needed removal.
Thus, you're actually the one reaching by arguing this point because canon supports me.
Assertion is fine, but I would like to know how exactly this is supposed to work.
Assertion without evidence would let me say AM can ride a giant robot into the sunset after destroying everything that is.
AM BAR--The Doom That Came To Sarnath....
I think BATTY is the Stig.....
Honestly the main reason AM needs to lean on a synthesist so much is mainly due to some unspecific hatred of flying mounts in the game. It's insanely hard to do without using a summoner.
Now technically, according too the APG and Ultimate combat entry for totem rage powers, one could take the totem warrior archtype and argue it has NO disadvantages. This would allow AM too take the dragon wings totem, which of course would pass on too his mount. Then all he'd have to do is focus on upping it's speed and keeping his perception high.
And yes i'm aware this is completely rules lawyering and explicitly going against the RAI, I'm just pointing out he doesn't HAVE to use a synthesist mount, it's just the best and easiest way.
Besides, calling it a caster when it has never used it's casting abilities at any point seems a bit unfair.
EDIT:- but seriously what does paizo have against flying mounts? It's really weird how the fly spell is so easily accessed hell even a barbarian can easily get a fly speed, but a flying mount is always just straight up denied.
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HOW DOES AM BARBARIAN FEEL ABOUT CASTY THAT USES RAGELANCE(BUT STILL WORKING OUT HOW TO GET POUNCE) TO SUNDER OTHER CASTYS?
AM ELDRITCH KNIGHT AM FIGHTER1/SORC4/DRAGONDISCIPLE8/ELDRITCHKNIGHT7. USES VENGEFUL OUTRAGE SPELL FOR RAGING EFFECT, AND AM HAVE STRENGTH BONUS FROM DRAGON DISCIPLE AND ABYSSAL HERITAGE FOR BIG DRILLING WITH LANCE. IF AM STARTED WITH 16 STRENGTH, AM THINKING AM HAVE 43 STRENGTH WHEN OUTRAGED. WHEN AM LOOKING LIKE DRAGON, AM HAVE 53 STRENGTH. WITH +10 FROM POWER ATTACK, AM DOING (1D8+41+LANCE MAGIC BONUS) TIMES 2 ON SINGLE LANCE CHARGE, WHILST SINGING JAUNTY TUNE OF BLOOD DEATH AND VENGEANCE. IF AM HAVING TIME TO SUMMON OTHER BIG DRAGON TO RIDE, AM DOING (1D8+41+LANCE MAGIC BONUS) TIMES 3, WHILST HAVING TWO DRAGONS SING JAUNTY TUNE OF BLOOD DEATH AND VENGEANCE.
AM ELDRITCH KNIGHT WANTS TO KNOW IF DRAGONRAGELANCE AND RAGELANCEPOUNCE WILL EVER PIERCE THE SKIES TOGETHER, EVEN THOUGH AM ELDRITH KNIGHT AM STILL HALF-CASTY.
HOW DOES AM BARBARIAN FEEL ABOUT CASTY THAT USES RAGELANCE(BUT STILL WORKING OUT HOW TO GET POUNCE) TO SUNDER OTHER CASTYS?
AM ELDRITCH KNIGHT AM FIGHTER1/SORC4/DRAGONDISCIPLE8/ELDRITCHKNIGHT7. USES VENGEFUL OUTRAGE SPELL FOR RAGING EFFECT, AND AM HAVE STRENGTH BONUS FROM DRAGON DISCIPLE AND ABYSSAL HERITAGE FOR BIG DRILLING WITH LANCE. IF AM STARTED WITH 16 STRENGTH, AM THINKING AM HAVE 43 STRENGTH WHEN OUTRAGED. WHEN AM LOOKING LIKE DRAGON, AM HAVE 53 STRENGTH. WITH +10 FROM POWER ATTACK, AM DOING (1D8+41+LANCE MAGIC BONUS) TIMES 2 ON SINGLE LANCE CHARGE, WHILST SINGING JAUNTY TUNE OF BLOOD DEATH AND VENGEANCE. IF AM HAVING TIME TO SUMMON OTHER BIG DRAGON TO RIDE, AM DOING (1D8+41+LANCE MAGIC BONUS) TIMES 3, WHILST HAVING TWO DRAGONS SING JAUNTY TUNE OF BLOOD DEATH AND VENGEANCE.
AM ELDRITCH KNIGHT WANTS TO KNOW IF DRAGONRAGELANCE AND RAGELANCEPOUNCE WILL EVER PIERCE THE SKIES TOGETHER, EVEN THOUGH AM ELDRITH KNIGHT AM STILL HALF-CASTY.
If I recall, I was one of if not the first on these boards to point out this alternate use of vengeful outrage as a self-buff. But it's nice to see it used. =) I'll say this much, you may not have pounce, but assuming a +5 lance, at 138 bonus damage on a single smack, you're already killing a large portion of the creatures in the game outright.
However, AM is not just about the ragelancepounce, he's got his defences pretty well shored up too. But since you both seem to be builds-in-the-works at the moment, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you have a chance of being AM's sidekick-with-other-useful-tricks.
Edit: Although....I do wonder about a dragon riding another dragon...
Now technically, according too the APG and Ultimate combat entry for totem rage powers, one could take the totem warrior archtype and argue it has NO disadvantages. This would allow AM too take the dragon wings totem, which of course would pass on too his mount. Then all he'd have to do is focus on upping it's speed and keeping his perception high.
Sadly, the dragon totem don't work. It only allows flying while raging.
Apart from that, I would thinkt that AM BARB might have a difficulty of finding 3 rage powers to spend on the dragon totem.
HOW DOES AM BARBARIAN FEEL ABOUT CASTY THAT USES RAGELANCE(BUT STILL WORKING OUT HOW TO GET POUNCE) TO SUNDER OTHER CASTYS?
AM ELDRITCH KNIGHT AM FIGHTER1/SORC4/DRAGONDISCIPLE8/ELDRITCHKNIGHT7. USES VENGEFUL OUTRAGE SPELL FOR RAGING EFFECT, AND AM HAVE STRENGTH BONUS FROM DRAGON DISCIPLE AND ABYSSAL HERITAGE FOR BIG DRILLING WITH LANCE. IF AM STARTED WITH 16 STRENGTH, AM THINKING AM HAVE 43 STRENGTH WHEN OUTRAGED. WHEN AM LOOKING LIKE DRAGON, AM HAVE 53 STRENGTH. WITH +10 FROM POWER ATTACK, AM DOING (1D8+41+LANCE MAGIC BONUS) TIMES 2 ON SINGLE LANCE CHARGE, WHILST SINGING JAUNTY TUNE OF BLOOD DEATH AND VENGEANCE. IF AM HAVING TIME TO SUMMON OTHER BIG DRAGON TO RIDE, AM DOING (1D8+41+LANCE MAGIC BONUS) TIMES 3, WHILST HAVING TWO DRAGONS SING JAUNTY TUNE OF BLOOD DEATH AND VENGEANCE.
AM ELDRITCH KNIGHT WANTS TO KNOW IF DRAGONRAGELANCE AND RAGELANCEPOUNCE WILL EVER PIERCE THE SKIES TOGETHER, EVEN THOUGH AM ELDRITH KNIGHT AM STILL HALF-CASTY.
Dish looksh intereshtin.
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AM JUST REMEMBER THAT AM TOOK DIMENSIONAL AGILITY AND DIMENSIONAL DERVISH FEATS. SO INSTEAD OF CHARGE, AM ELDRITCH KNIGHT AM ABLE TO DIMENSION DOOR BESIDE CASTY AND DELIVER FULL ATTACK OF BITE CLAW CLAW WING WING TAIL, FOR 2D6+41, 1D8+31, 1D8+31, 1D6+20, 1D6+20, 1D8+41, AND STILL DIMENSION DOOR AWAY AFTER. AM THINKING AVERAGE DAMAGE IS 211.5 DAMAGE IF ALL ATTACKS HIT, BUT AM COULD BE WRONG.
AM NO LONGER DRILL SINGLE HOLE IN SKY THOUGH, SO MIGHT MAKE BIGGER MESS THAN AM BARBARIAN.
AM ALSO SHOULD MENTION, AM WEARING SHINY STONE ON NECK THAT AM WON FROM BALDY MAN WHO SAY HE WILL BEAT AM IN NO WEAPON FIGHT (ME THINK CLAW AND BITE STILL BODY PART, NOT WEAPON, SO FIGHT WAS STILL FAIR). STONE MAKE AM BITE AND CLAW MORE BITEY AND CLAWEY. ALSO WIN BELT FROM BIG GUY WHO THOUGHT NO WAY LITTLE GNOME COULD WIN HIM IN ARM WRESUL. MAYBE AM CHEAT A LITTLE IN THAT ONE. AM TURN IT INTO ARM-AND-CLAW-WRESUL. BELT WAS NICE, KEEPS PANTS FROM FALLING, BUT AM ALSO NOTICE AM LIFTING EVEN MORE BOULDERS TO THROW AT HILL GIANTS EVER SINCE.
AM JUST REMEMBER THAT AM TOOK DIMENSIONAL AGILITY AND DIMENSIONAL DERVISH FEATS. SO INSTEAD OF CHARGE, AM ELDRITCH KNIGHT AM ABLE TO DIMENSION DOOR BESIDE CASTY AND DELIVER FULL ATTACK OF BITE CLAW CLAW WING WING TAIL, FOR 2D6+41, 1D8+31, 1D8+31, 1D6+20, 1D6+20, 1D8+41, AND STILL DIMENSION DOOR AWAY AFTER. AM THINKING AVERAGE DAMAGE IS 211.5 DAMAGE IF ALL ATTACKS HIT, BUT AM COULD BE WRONG.
AM NO LONGER DRILL SINGLE HOLE IN SKY THOUGH, SO MIGHT MAKE BIGGER MESS THAN AM BARBARIAN.
AM ALSO SHOULD MENTION, AM WEARING SHINY STONE ON NECK THAT AM WON FROM BALDY MAN WHO SAY HE WILL BEAT AM IN NO WEAPON FIGHT (ME THINK CLAW AND BITE STILL BODY PART, NOT WEAPON, SO FIGHT WAS STILL FAIR). STONE MAKE AM BITE AND CLAW MORE BITEY AND CLAWEY. ALSO WIN BELT FROM BIG GUY WHO THOUGHT NO WAY LITTLE GNOME COULD WIN HIM IN ARM WRESUL. MAYBE AM CHEAT A LITTLE IN THAT ONE. AM TURN IT INTO ARM-AND-CLAW-WRESUL. BELT WAS NICE, KEEPS PANTS FROM FALLING, BUT AM ALSO NOTICE AM LIFTING EVEN MORE BOULDERS TO THROW AT HILL GIANTS EVER SINCE.
Lol a gnome...with an un-buffed strength of 37, and that turns into a huge dragon with up to 53 strength? I like!
AM JUST REMEMBER THAT AM TOOK DIMENSIONAL AGILITY AND DIMENSIONAL DERVISH FEATS. SO INSTEAD OF CHARGE, AM ELDRITCH KNIGHT AM ABLE TO DIMENSION DOOR BESIDE CASTY AND DELIVER FULL ATTACK OF BITE CLAW CLAW WING WING TAIL, FOR 2D6+41, 1D8+31, 1D8+31, 1D6+20, 1D6+20, 1D8+41, AND STILL DIMENSION DOOR AWAY AFTER. AM THINKING AVERAGE DAMAGE IS 211.5 DAMAGE IF ALL ATTACKS HIT, BUT AM COULD BE WRONG.
AM NO LONGER DRILL SINGLE HOLE IN SKY THOUGH, SO MIGHT MAKE BIGGER MESS THAN AM BARBARIAN.
AM ALSO SHOULD MENTION, AM WEARING SHINY STONE ON NECK THAT AM WON FROM BALDY MAN WHO SAY HE WILL BEAT AM IN NO WEAPON FIGHT (ME THINK CLAW AND BITE STILL BODY PART, NOT WEAPON, SO FIGHT WAS STILL FAIR). STONE MAKE AM BITE AND CLAW MORE BITEY AND CLAWEY. ALSO WIN BELT FROM BIG GUY WHO THOUGHT NO WAY LITTLE GNOME COULD WIN HIM IN ARM WRESUL. MAYBE AM CHEAT A LITTLE IN THAT ONE. AM TURN IT INTO ARM-AND-CLAW-WRESUL. BELT WAS NICE, KEEPS PANTS FROM FALLING, BUT AM ALSO NOTICE AM LIFTING EVEN MORE BOULDERS TO THROW AT HILL GIANTS EVER SINCE.
AM YOU FULL CASTY? BARBARIAN ALLOW ALCHEMIST AND THEY AM LIKE DRUG ADDICT SO AM NOT SURE.
AM YOU FULL CASTY? BARBARIAN ALLOW ALCHEMIST AND THEY AM LIKE DRUG ADDICT SO AM NOT SURE.
AM not Drug addict AM Addicted to Blood of CASTY
Actually, the Summoner 16/Oracle 2 was based on the assumption that at level 10 I got exhaustion immunity.
Now that it's been pointed out that I am, in fact, a moron, this will likely be altered to Summoner 17/Oracle 1. Still more than adequate, but that's like 20 ft more fly speed and isn't that all that matters?!
GETTING IN ON THIS WHILE GETTING AM GOOD...
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Go ahead and then take at least 10d6 falling damage unless you have feather fall prepared but thats all your doing that round per falling rules then its AM's TurnThe spell description of wish states, in part: "Transport travelers. A wish can lift one creature per caster level from anywhere on any plane and place those creatures anywhere else on any plane regardless of local conditions." That good enough?
Never played it. Okay, I'll concede the point that BATTY BAT never sleeps. But I'll still assert that the divination combo I mentioned will suffice to spot AM, and put me close enough to surprise him.Assertion is fine, but I would like to know how exactly this is supposed to work.
Assertion without evidence would let me say AM can ride a giant robot into the sunset after destroying everything that is.
Falling is not a problem. The wizard is always assumed to have overland flight going.
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AM YOU FULL CASTY? BARBARIAN ALLOW ALCHEMIST AND THEY AM LIKE DRUG ADDICT SO AM NOT SURE.AM JUST REMEMBER THAT AM TOOK DIMENSIONAL AGILITY AND DIMENSIONAL DERVISH FEATS. SO INSTEAD OF CHARGE, AM ELDRITCH KNIGHT AM ABLE TO DIMENSION DOOR BESIDE CASTY AND DELIVER FULL ATTACK OF BITE CLAW CLAW WING WING TAIL, FOR 2D6+41, 1D8+31, 1D8+31, 1D6+20, 1D6+20, 1D8+41, AND STILL DIMENSION DOOR AWAY AFTER. AM THINKING AVERAGE DAMAGE IS 211.5 DAMAGE IF ALL ATTACKS HIT, BUT AM COULD BE WRONG.
AM NO LONGER DRILL SINGLE HOLE IN SKY THOUGH, SO MIGHT MAKE BIGGER MESS THAN AM BARBARIAN.
AM ALSO SHOULD MENTION, AM WEARING SHINY STONE ON NECK THAT AM WON FROM BALDY MAN WHO SAY HE WILL BEAT AM IN NO WEAPON FIGHT (ME THINK CLAW AND BITE STILL BODY PART, NOT WEAPON, SO FIGHT WAS STILL FAIR). STONE MAKE AM BITE AND CLAW MORE BITEY AND CLAWEY. ALSO WIN BELT FROM BIG GUY WHO THOUGHT NO WAY LITTLE GNOME COULD WIN HIM IN ARM WRESUL. MAYBE AM CHEAT A LITTLE IN THAT ONE. AM TURN IT INTO ARM-AND-CLAW-WRESUL. BELT WAS NICE, KEEPS PANTS FROM FALLING, BUT AM ALSO NOTICE AM LIFTING EVEN MORE BOULDERS TO THROW AT HILL GIANTS EVER SINCE.
AM HALF CASTY, BUT ONLY CAST TO TURN BIGGER TO SQUISH FULL CASTY. OR TEAR NEW HOLE IN HEAVENS (FIRST HOLE ALREADY DRILLED BY AM BARBARIAN).
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Yes, it does. It's a wish. I realize the spell description says it may pervert the spell, but at that point we're already at GM fiat to decide who wins the fight.That explains how it moves you, but not how it allows you to get within 400 ft of AM.The spell description of wish states, in part: "Transport travelers. A wish can lift one creature per caster level from anywhere on any plane and place those creatures anywhere else on any plane regardless of local conditions." That good enough?
Never played it. Okay, I'll concede the point that BATTY BAT never sleeps. But I'll still assert that the divination combo I mentioned will suffice to spot AM, and put me close enough to surprise him.Assertion is fine, but I would like to know how exactly this is supposed to work.
Assertion without evidence would let me say AM can ride a giant robot into the sunset after destroying everything that is.
The sticking point is whether anywhere means a literal location, or whether it can be a conditional location that is dependent upon creatures or situations.
Literal location: "I wish to teleport to the Oval Office in the White House, Washington, D.C., U.S.A., to stand 10 feet in front of the President Barack Obama's desk."
Conditional location: "I wish to teleport to 10 feet in front of President Barack Obama."
I don't think anyone would argue that you could wish (or greater teleport, for that matter), to any literal location you can describe.
I think it's far less clear that you can teleport/wish yourself to a "location" that isn't actually dependent on its location. Obama could be in D.C., or Hawaii, or Singapore, or flying to London on Air Force One.
In the first case (literal), you are transporting yourself to a place. In the second case (conditional), you are transporting yourself into a situation, which is not actually defined by its location and actually could be anywhere, as the target isn't really a "where" at all; it's a "what" or a "whom."
Can wish transport you to anywhat or anywhom, or just to anywhere?
AM HALF CASTY, BUT ONLY CAST TO TURN BIGGER TO SQUISH FULL CASTY. OR TEAR NEW HOLE IN HEAVENS (FIRST HOLE ALREADY DRILLED BY AM BARBARIAN).
WELL, BARBARIAN DO LIKE TO COLLECT GNOMES WITH FUNNY HAIR...
HOW FUNNY AM HALF CASTY'S HAIR?
AM LIKE HOW CONVERSATION AM SHIFT FROM "SPECIFIC MARTIAL BUILD TO KILL CASTY" IN ORIGINAL THREAD TO "SPECIFIC CASTY BUILD TO KILL AM BARBARIAN" IN THIS ONE. SHOE ON OTHER HAND, NOW.
AM LIKE HOW CONVERSATION AM SHIFT FROM "SPECIFIC MARTIAL BUILD TO KILL CASTY" IN ORIGINAL THREAD TO "SPECIFIC CASTY BUILD TO KILL AM BARBARIAN" IN THIS ONE. SHOE ON OTHER HAND, NOW.
BARBARIAN AM FRIGHTENING BECAUSE BARBARIAN AM ABLE TO TURN STANDARD CASTY-MARTIAL DIALOGUE AROUND AND MAKE CASTY ARGUE AS IF CASTY AM MARTIAL AND BARBARIAN AM CASTY.
AM WHY BARBARIAN AM AWESOME.
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AM HALF CASTY, BUT ONLY CAST TO TURN BIGGER TO SQUISH FULL CASTY. OR TEAR NEW HOLE IN HEAVENS (FIRST HOLE ALREADY DRILLED BY AM BARBARIAN).WELL, BARBARIAN DO LIKE TO COLLECT GNOMES WITH FUNNY HAIR...
HOW FUNNY AM HALF CASTY'S HAIR?
AM ELDRITCH KNIGHT IS GNOME. AM ELDRITCH KNIGHT THEREFORE HAS NORMAL HAIR. UNLIKE MOST HOOMANS AND ELVES WHO HAVE BOORING HAIR. WAY AM SEE IT, BOORING CANNOT POOSSIBLY BE NORMAL.
AM LIKE HOW CONVERSATION AM SHIFT FROM "SPECIFIC MARTIAL BUILD TO KILL CASTY" IN ORIGINAL THREAD TO "SPECIFIC CASTY BUILD TO KILL AM BARBARIAN" IN THIS ONE. SHOE ON OTHER HAND, NOW.BARBARIAN AM FRIGHTENING BECAUSE BARBARIAN AM ABLE TO TURN STANDARD CASTY-MARTIAL DIALOGUE AROUND AND MAKE CASTY ARGUE AS IF CASTY AM MARTIAL AND BARBARIAN AM CASTY.
AM WHY BARBARIAN AM AWESOME.
AM IN AGREEMENT. IRONY AM A FUNNY MISTRESS.
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AM ELDRITCH KNIGHT IS GNOME. AM ELDRITCH KNIGHT THEREFORE HAS NORMAL HAIR. UNLIKE MOST HOOMANS AND ELVES WHO HAVE BOORING HAIR. WAY AM SEE IT, BOORING CANNOT POOSSIBLY BE NORMAL.AM HALF CASTY, BUT ONLY CAST TO TURN BIGGER TO SQUISH FULL CASTY. OR TEAR NEW HOLE IN HEAVENS (FIRST HOLE ALREADY DRILLED BY AM BARBARIAN).WELL, BARBARIAN DO LIKE TO COLLECT GNOMES WITH FUNNY HAIR...
HOW FUNNY AM HALF CASTY'S HAIR?
SO...AM ARGUMENTS NEED TO BE MADE AGAINST ENTIRE "AM" PARTY NOW, OR JUST AGAINST BARBARIAN?
AM ELDRITCH KNIGHT IS GNOME. AM ELDRITCH KNIGHT THEREFORE HAS NORMAL HAIR. UNLIKE MOST HOOMANS AND ELVES WHO HAVE BOORING HAIR. WAY AM SEE IT, BOORING CANNOT POOSSIBLY BE NORMAL.AM HALF CASTY, BUT ONLY CAST TO TURN BIGGER TO SQUISH FULL CASTY. OR TEAR NEW HOLE IN HEAVENS (FIRST HOLE ALREADY DRILLED BY AM BARBARIAN).WELL, BARBARIAN DO LIKE TO COLLECT GNOMES WITH FUNNY HAIR...
HOW FUNNY AM HALF CASTY'S HAIR?
Oh dear...you know...I would love to see this party in action...ragelancepounce, mutagenlancecharge, challangelancecharge and now dragonragedoorfullattackdoor...
And...in a very warped way...they do have the caster and healer roles *sort of* covered...
AM ELDRITCH KNIGHT IS GNOME. AM ELDRITCH KNIGHT THEREFORE HAS NORMAL HAIR. UNLIKE MOST HOOMANS AND ELVES WHO HAVE BOORING HAIR. WAY AM SEE IT, BOORING CANNOT POOSSIBLY BE NORMAL.AM HALF CASTY, BUT ONLY CAST TO TURN BIGGER TO SQUISH FULL CASTY. OR TEAR NEW HOLE IN HEAVENS (FIRST HOLE ALREADY DRILLED BY AM BARBARIAN).WELL, BARBARIAN DO LIKE TO COLLECT GNOMES WITH FUNNY HAIR...
HOW FUNNY AM HALF CASTY'S HAIR?
Oh dear...you know...I would love to see this party in action...ragelancepounce, mutagenlancecharge, challangelancecharge and now dragonragedoorfullattackdoor...
And...in a very warped way...they do have the caster and healer roles *sort of* covered...
THEY AM A TRUE FORCE OF NATURE, AND SHOULD BUILDS SEE LIGHT, THEY AM POSSIBLY BRING END OF TIME...
...AM SURE TIME AM HONORED TO MEET END THIS WAY.
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1000 POSTS!!!
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Oh dear...you know...I would love to see this party in action...ragelancepounce, mutagenlancecharge, challangelancecharge and now dragonragedoorfullattackdoor...And...in a very warped way...they do have the caster and healer roles *sort of* covered...
THAT AM SNEAKLANCEPOUNCE. SEE BEASTMORPH DRINKS MUTAGEN AND CAN THEN POUNCE LIKE BARBARIAN SINCE BEASTMORPH ALSO SKIRMISHER ROUGE CAN ALSO SNEAK ATTACK ON POUNCE ABLE TO DEAL VARIABLE DAMAGE THAT NOT AS GOOD AS AM'S BUT CAN HAVE FUN SIDE EFFECTS SINCE AM ALSO VIVSECTIONIST.
THAT AM SNEAKLANCEPOUNCE. SEE BEASTMORPH DRINKS MUTAGEN AND CAN THEN POUNCE LIKE BARBARIAN SINCE BEASTMORPH ALSO SKIRMISHER ROUGE CAN ALSO SNEAK ATTACK ON POUNCE ABLE TO DEAL VARIABLE DAMAGE THAT NOT AS GOOD AS AM'S BUT CAN HAVE FUN SIDE EFFECTS SINCE AM ALSO VIVSECTIONIST.
Oh dear...you know...I would love to see this party in action...ragelancepounce, mutagenlancecharge, challangelancecharge and now dragonragedoorfullattackdoor...And...in a very warped way...they do have the caster and healer roles *sort of* covered...
So...we have the all-rounder-killer, the sneaky? killer (with some off-the-side-healing?), the chargerdude (seems to take the role of party-buffer at this point with banner and tactician) and the plasticcannon (I'd say tougher than glass, and even that's only relative to AM BARBARIAN, since DD has good hp, a CON bonus to boot; seems able to occassionally muster potentially more damage than AM BARBARIAN, but not as consistently as AM BARB, and defences are potentially less robust).
AM BMS and AM EK also potentially fill the utility caster roles. LOL looks like a pretty functional party. A DPS party from hell.
You 4 should get the builds out and have them run against some of the toughest bosses from the Pathfinder APs. Should be fun. XD
SO WHO WANT RUN PBP FOR EPIC PARTY OF AMS?