Dear Mr. President: There are too many states. Please eliminate three. PS: I am not a crackpot.


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Shadow Lodge

Somehow I think redrawing state lines would work about as well as the dividing of the Middle East did.

Liberty's Edge

Got a few people east of us who are all about redrawing state lines. For more states.

I remember the days when it was just "The Middle East." Like Czechoslovakia.

Liberty's Edge

Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:

I suggest that:

1) Vermont be returned to her rightful owner, New Hampshire.

2) Maine be restored to Massachusetts, under the suzerainity of Lord Gruumash. or not, that can be determined later.

3) Delaware be declared a corporation and no longer a state--

and we should be good.

TLDR, so I don't know if this was addressed, but Vermont was part of NY before it became a state (the 14th), not NH.

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Gark the Goblin wrote:
I remember the days when it was just "The Middle East." Like Czechoslovakia.

Czechoslovakia used to be two countries, who were often at war with eachother, and were enemies, before someone decided to combine them. So no big surprise they split back apart.


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Todd Stewart wrote:
Kirth Gersen wrote:


Or we could merge South Carolina with North Carolina, because almost everyone not from there thinks they're the same state anyway. Likewise for the Dakotas.

Oh heck no. I refuse to be in the same state as those SC barbarians with their mustard based bbq abomination* and cheap fireworks. ;)

*(because only vinegar based pulled pork bbq is the true type of carolina bbq)

I'm gonna commit cultural heresy here and claim NC pulled pork is better with that mustard sauce. And who don't like cheap explosives?

If we do it though, I want all 4 senators replaced by The Nature Boy Rick Flair. He gets to vote 4 times and can knife hand chop any politician in the middle of open debate on the floor.


houstonderek wrote:
Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:

I suggest that:

1) Vermont be returned to her rightful owner, New Hampshire.

2) Maine be restored to Massachusetts, under the suzerainity of Lord Gruumash. or not, that can be determined later.

3) Delaware be declared a corporation and no longer a state--

and we should be good.

TLDR, so I don't know if this was addressed, but Vermont was part of NY before it became a state (the 14th), not NH.

Pro-New York propaganda!

You know how you can tell Vermont belongs to New Hampshire? Because it's just NH upside down!

Liberty's Edge

Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:

I suggest that:

1) Vermont be returned to her rightful owner, New Hampshire.

2) Maine be restored to Massachusetts, under the suzerainity of Lord Gruumash. or not, that can be determined later.

3) Delaware be declared a corporation and no longer a state--

and we should be good.

TLDR, so I don't know if this was addressed, but Vermont was part of NY before it became a state (the 14th), not NH.

Pro-New York propaganda!

You know how you can tell Vermont belongs to New Hampshire? Because it's just NH upside down!

;-)


houstonderek wrote:
;-)

YES!!!!!!!!!

Call me when you get a chance.
Drinks are on me.


houstonderek wrote:
Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:

I suggest that:

1) Vermont be returned to her rightful owner, New Hampshire.

2) Maine be restored to Massachusetts, under the suzerainity of Lord Gruumash. or not, that can be determined later.

3) Delaware be declared a corporation and no longer a state--

and we should be good.

TLDR, so I don't know if this was addressed, but Vermont was part of NY before it became a state (the 14th), not NH.

Pro-New York propaganda!

You know how you can tell Vermont belongs to New Hampshire? Because it's just NH upside down!

;-)

As a vermonter, I would like you to piss off. That is all. ;-)


nathan blackmer wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:

I suggest that:

1) Vermont be returned to her rightful owner, New Hampshire.

2) Maine be restored to Massachusetts, under the suzerainity of Lord Gruumash. or not, that can be determined later.

3) Delaware be declared a corporation and no longer a state--

and we should be good.

TLDR, so I don't know if this was addressed, but Vermont was part of NY before it became a state (the 14th), not NH.

Pro-New York propaganda!

You know how you can tell Vermont belongs to New Hampshire? Because it's just NH upside down!

;-)
As a vermonter, I would like you to piss off. That is all. ;-)

AND, to be clear, we were a part of New York and seperated ourselves along river borders. New York was pissed but we were like "Hey, you guys are a bunch of dicks!" and congress said "Yeah. They are. They really, really are." and so Vermont was born. (you know we're cool because we like the Red Sox, unlike certain OTHER new england states). New Yorkers lashed back by unleashing the plague of the peepers upon us. Terrible.

In other news - North Dakota shouldn't be a state because Vermont is less then 1/10th the size and has more people.


You were only a part of New York because they sucked up to the crown!

Live free or die!

Spoiler:
This argument is on very shaky ground, of course, but if I can't be an American jingoist, at least I can be a NH one.


Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:

You were only a part of New York because they sucked up to the crown!

Live free or die!

** spoiler omitted **

I'm trying but you won't let me!

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houstonderek wrote:
Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:

I suggest that:

1) Vermont be returned to her rightful owner, New Hampshire.

2) Maine be restored to Massachusetts, under the suzerainity of Lord Gruumash. or not, that can be determined later.

3) Delaware be declared a corporation and no longer a state--

and we should be good.

TLDR, so I don't know if this was addressed, but Vermont was part of NY before it became a state (the 14th), not NH.

As long as they all fall under my rule of New England I don't care so much how you split it up. Be it the others "states" are vassals or the like I don't really care too much. But once this State changing thing begins to happen I expect those in England to pay Homage to me. I will of course be giving out grand titles to those who are loyal Mr. Anklebiter has shown his value so far and will be proberly rewarded. Others who have chanllenged my rule will be dealt with.


John Stark would've kicked Ethan Allen's ass!


John Stark would've kicked Lord Gruumash.'s ass!

Dark Archive

Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
John Stark would've kicked Lord Gruumash.'s ass!

Would have could have should have. Seeing there is no John Stark around or Eddard Stark for that matter. I rule. Now get back to selling my booze goblin.


Yessir.

So, Mr. Blackmer, have you tried this seasonal Harpoon yet?


Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:

Yessir.

So, Mr. Blackmer, have you tried this seasonal Harpoon yet?

I really, really wish. I enlisted into the Air Force and have been stationed in North Dakota ever since (a fate worse then death... well, not THAT bad but you get the idea).

I miss harpoon, magic hat, at least they finally have woodchuck hard cider out here though. And, Cabot distributes through Wal-mart now so that's just about the most exciting thing that's ever happened.


ANebulousMistress wrote:

Supposedly my ancestors killed the lost tribe of Israel after they somehow appeared on my continent. Or something like that, the book of Mormon is a bit weird on the particulars.

Now we fleece Texans out of money and water. And all for the perk of not paying taxes to the tribe.

Since this is not in the Book of Mormon and it's not doctrine, nor is it taught by the church, I'm not sure why you think our ancestors (Mine too - Creek & Cherokee, which kept my grandfather from being able to enter some cafes in California.) killed any lost tribe of Israel. The Book of Mormon doesn't even address the Lost Tribes.

Shadow Lodge

Whoa, I haven't seen this thread in almost a year!


Down with Vermont! Long live NH!

Live free or die!


Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:

Down with Vermont! Long live NH!

Live free or die!

LONG LIVE NH!!

Motorcycles, Ice Cream, and Beer (though not in combination, accepting the Guinness Float).

My pride will willingly follow Comrade Anklebiter, provided we are allowed to push most of the transplants from our immediate southern neighbor back there. They couldn't Drive when they had red & white plates, and they can't drive now that they have Green and white ones with the old man on 'em either.


What is the cut-off date for transplants?


Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
What is the cut-off date for transplants?

No specific date, they just have to be able to prove they can drive without being an idiot or an arse.


And in what township would my liege be placing his seat of non-governance?


The Anklebiters hail from the the western part of Massachusetts where people hate Bostonians and root for the Yankees. They moved, with infant Doodblebug in tow, to Merrimack in 1978. I left as soon as I could, which was 1995, but now, after a brush with homelessness, I'm back!

I can't say where, exactly, but the Free NH Goblin Resistance headquarters is located outside of Manchester.

Live free or die!


lordzack wrote:
Why not just consolidate the various cardinal direction states into Carolina, Dakota and Virginia? Furthermore exactly what good would eliminating states do?

Ain't no way, Ain't no how I am being a Virginian, although thank you for recognizing that West Virginia is actually a state. I've had people ask me if I live near the beach!


The One Who Makes You Angry wrote:
Just give California, Washington and Idaho to Caesar's Legion and be done with it.

Heck no, I'll take my chances with the New California Republic. If Idaho would happen to get the boot, I want it to be peacefully... I'm not really a fan of the US government anyways...


How about making arkansas cecede?
With all that deep sibling-love.

Dark Archive

Thank you for that bit of intelligence we will be finding your location soon enough and bringing NH once agian under the beneficient rule of Lord Gruumash Baron of New England.

(Thank you for reviving this thread.)


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How about if Washington DC secedes? That would be all kinds of fun...


Sissyl wrote:
How about if Washington DC secedes? That would be all kinds of fun...

All motivation for DC to secede went the way of Mayor Marion "snoot full of blow" Barry, 'specially when the ladies of the night were marched across the 14th St bridge 20 or 30 years ago.

What's President to do if he can't get his ashes hauled discreetly?!

On the up side, they already have all the necessary embassy buildings at hand...

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

Back to the original topic... I'm afraid I can't support the proposal until somebody shows me an appealing design for a US flag with 47 stars on the canton.


Vic Wertz wrote:
Back to the original topic... I'm afraid I can't support the proposal until somebody shows me an appealing design for a US flag with 47 stars on the canton.

So now "symmetricality" is a requirement?! That's just typical!


Naaaah ... just get 3 new "states"...


Rows of 7, 7, 6, 7, 6, 7 and 7 would be pretty symmetrical. I thought I was clever by checking what a 47-star flag looked like, but it turns out that number was skipped. Most likely they couldn't figure out a 47-star flag and waited for another entry before jumping to 6 * 8.


Why not consolidate by region? For example, we could have the State of Appalachia, consisting of Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia, Pennsylvania. And resurrect the CSA, with the Carolinas, Georgia, Alabama, Virginia, Mississippi. The northeast and northwest could be ceded to Canada, if we want to reduce the number of states cheaply and easily. Texas and the whole southwest would become a lawless buffer zone between the former U.S. and the drug wars in Mexico. The possibilities are limitless here!


Dude, whatever; if Rhode Island hadn't caved to the pressure and ratified the Constitution, there only would have been twelve states to begin with. We were perfectly happy from 1776 until 1790.


Please don't split California. :-(

I mean, if you combined every other state in the west California would still have way more people in it.

Heck, let's just start consolidating to make the states more impressive in size and population relative to California.

Combine Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, Arizona, Nevada and New Mexico into one state, called New Waredantaminahradonada.

Then, let's get North and South Dakota, Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, and Illinois to make North South Dabraskasotassourinois.

Wisconsin, Michigan, Indiana and Ohio make Wischiganahio.

Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana make Texarkahomiana.

Alaska and Hawaii are on their own.

Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and Florida make Missibamiada.

Kentucky, Tennessee, North and South Carolina, Virginia and West Virginia make North South West Kentennelininia.

Delaware, Maryland, New Jersey and Pennsylvania make New Pennylaresey.

Finally, New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine, make New Connislachushironte.

TL;DR Bam! 10 states in the union.

EDIT: actually missed 2 states. Fixed.


Swivl wrote:
Then, let's get North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, and Illinois to make North South Dabraskasotassourinois... Bam! 10 states in the union.

Too much Decabet on SNL for you, Mr. Aykroyd.


Kirth Gersen wrote:
Swivl wrote:
Then, let's get North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, and Illinois to make North South Dabraskasotassourinois... Bam! 10 states in the union.
Too much Decabet on SNL for you, Mr. Aykroyd.

Hmm, that's the first time I've seen that.

Funny sketch, though; and I see the resemblance. 0.o


Oooooh I love those names. If I ever make a RPG setting where America is part of the map, this will be exactly the state setup. =)


Swivl wrote:
Please don't split California. :-(

As a native Californian (Northern) and a former occupant of that state, let me just say...

PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SPLIT California.

Hook Nor-Cal up with the central valley (we like our crops) and all of the National Parks (cuz they are great), throw in all of the coastal cities all the way down to... let's say Santa Barbara.

Then carpet-bomb everything South of there (minus the beaches - cuz we need surfing and non-wetsuit swimming water). But, by all means, turn LA into a twisted heap of fused glass.


That's horrible, stormraven! Bad birdy!

Also, anything that has new york in it should be known as just new york.

Dark Archive

You can't combine New York and New England it just doesn't work. Honestly we should just have the orginal states perhaps allow California to exist as the west Coast and call the places in between Corn and Wheat and Sking land and be done with it.

I mean what is there west of Worchester anyways besides perhaps California and some sking area in that land in between the east and west coasts.

Paizo Employee Chief Technical Officer

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stormraven wrote:
Swivl wrote:
Please don't split California. :-(

As a native Californian (Northern) and a former occupant of that state, let me just say...

PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SPLIT California.

No worries—the San Andreas fault will take care of that for you, eventually.


Freehold DM wrote:
Also, anything that has new york in it should be known as just new york.

You're obviously not from Albany! NYC should be part of New Jersey (it basically is anyway). And rename it. The rest of New York State can remain so, or else join New England or Canada. See also here.


Kirth Gersen wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Also, anything that has new york in it should be known as just new york.
You're obviously not from Albany! NYC should be part of New Jersey (it basically is anyway). And rename it. The rest of New York State can remain so, or else join New England or Canada. See also here.

Oh you are going to pay for that one, goatman. FOR BROOKLYN!!!


No... FOR BROOKLYN!!!


I watched the TV show How The States Got Their Shapes, and thoroughly enjoyed it
(in a nerd sort of way.)

One thing that surprised me was how influential the gold rush was on borders in the West.

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