How can I wield two two-bladed swords?


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So basically I am simply interested to see if it is in anyway possible to wield two two-bladed swords and if so how would the damage be dealt? Would you be able to attack with all four blades in one round?
I know that taking levels in the Titan Mauler Barbarian will allow two handed weapons to be wielded in one hand but then how would the second blade deal damage?
Please help.

Shadow Lodge

Basically, you need four arms.

A double weapon wielded in one hand counts as a single weapon with a single attack. You can choose which head to use, but it's a single weapon.

Silver Crusade

Two-weapon fighting with two Small two-bladed swords :

Without Titan Mauler =
-2 from size. So -8 to main hand, -12 to off-hand.

With Titan Mauler, medium-sized two-bladed swords =
-6 to main hand, -10 to off-hand.

BAB +6/+1, without any bonus added and no TWFing feat =
Without TM : -2/-7 (main) -6 (off).
With TM : +0/-5 (main) -4 (off).

Dark Archive

without 4 arms you cant wield both sides of both swords.

why do people keep wanting to make characters fight like a spaz havin a seizure?


Name Violation wrote:

without 4 arms you cant wield both sides of both swords.

why do people keep wanting to make characters fight like a spaz havin a seizure?

Because they think if they increased the damage output without taking crippling penalties it will help decrease the caster martial disparity?

Just an idea.

Shadow Lodge

Name Violation wrote:

without 4 arms you cant wield both sides of both swords.

why do people keep wanting to make characters fight like a spaz havin a seizure?

Vivisectionist + 4 short swords + the idea that if 1 short sword is 6/1 and two short swords(with the right feats) is 4/4/-1/-1 then 4 short swords must be 4/4/4/4/-1/-1/-1/-1 (again with the right feats)


Skerek wrote:
Name Violation wrote:

without 4 arms you cant wield both sides of both swords.

why do people keep wanting to make characters fight like a spaz havin a seizure?

Vivisectionist + 4 short swords + the idea that if 1 short sword is 6/1 and two short swords(with the right feats) is 4/4/-1/-1 then 4 short swords must be 4/4/4/4/-1/-1/-1/-1 (again with the right feats)

I thought vivisectionist extra arms specifically did not grant extra attacks? or is that something else?

Silver Crusade

Additional arms don't give additional attacks.

Shadow Lodge

oo, i did not mean to imply it was legal, just stupid and an attempt to break the game...


It's not a bad idea. You'd still only get 2 attacks and be using Two Weapon fighting but you could options. You could have different types of weapon properties or magic on each blade and switch them about for what ever is optimal in the specific circumstance. Very expensive though.

Shadow Lodge

voska66 wrote:
It's not a bad idea. You'd still only get 2 attacks and be using Two Weapon fighting but you could options. You could have different types of weapon properties or magic on each blade and switch them about for what ever is optimal in the specific circumstance. Very expensive though.

Or you could go a magus to do that at a fraction of the cost

Liberty's Edge

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You could take Leadership and give your cohort his own two-bladed sword.


Dragonsong wrote:
Name Violation wrote:

without 4 arms you cant wield both sides of both swords.

why do people keep wanting to make characters fight like a spaz havin a seizure?

Because they think if they increased the damage output without taking crippling penalties it will help decrease the caster martial disparity?

Just an idea.

Don't you think the caster/martial disparity will become even worse if, on the left hand, you have the casters, who are powerful enough to make reality itself their b+%%@ AND look impressive doing it, while on the right hand, you have a bunch of fools who want to weaponise looking ludicrous?

"Look at me! I wield two double weapons! Woot! And my friend here wields two shields! We were rejected by lots of anime shows for being too ridiculous, can you believe that? Not even the Power Rangers wanted us! We got the ideas from watching a three-year-old whose father bought him some toy weapons in bulk!"

Keep it up, and the disparity will never go away because nobody will have any sympathy left for the martial types.

The Exchange

Dragonsong wrote:
Name Violation wrote:

without 4 arms you cant wield both sides of both swords.

why do people keep wanting to make characters fight like a spaz havin a seizure?

Because they think if they increased the damage output without taking crippling penalties it will help decrease the caster martial disparity?

Just an idea.

*twitch*

casters are casters
martial characters are martial characters

disparity, not.


Crimson Jester wrote:
Dragonsong wrote:
Name Violation wrote:

without 4 arms you cant wield both sides of both swords.

why do people keep wanting to make characters fight like a spaz havin a seizure?

Because they think if they increased the damage output without taking crippling penalties it will help decrease the caster martial disparity?

Just an idea.

*twitch*

casters are casters
martial characters are martial characters

disparity, not.

sense, not.


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BARBARIAN COVERED THIS ALREADY.

AM NO CASTER MARTIAL DESTRUCITY.

AM ONLY BARBARIAN NOT-BARBARIAN DESTRUCITY.

ARGUMENT AM OVER, ALL AM GOING HOME NOW.


AM BARBARIAN wrote:

BARBARIAN COVERED THIS ALREADY.

AM NO CASTER MARTIAL DESTRUCITY.

AM ONLY BARBARIAN NOT-BARBARIAN DESTRUCITY.

ARGUMENT AM OVER, ALL AM GOING HOME NOW.

*Just as in my first post this is sarcasm... sort of*

No is barbarian > caster > all others


Which boils down to AM BARBARIAN > all, which is what he said. ;)


Fozbek wrote:
Which boils down to AM BARBARIAN > all, which is what he said. ;)

But it means that from atop his mountain of skulls and broken bodies he dosent see all the poor non barbarian martials getting punked.

The Exchange

4arms and two two handed weapons work, if badly.

I can see 4arms and double weapons working(with GM help), it would require training though. I would make them feat for each extra attack, and maybe find someone to teach them. I would encourage the player to spend their money more wisely though. 4 magic swords are expensive.

Other cool options: Maybe a bow and double sword combo. Or reach and two non reach weapons.

Honestly think of the bow someone with four arms could use....it would be awesome.


alchemist with extra arms would allow you to whole and use 2 two bladed swords. However you would still only be able to two weapon fight with them, as such you would be better off using say a two great swords.

You meet all the prerequisites for multiweapon fighting (which being a feat would give you extra attacks), but since you have two one handed weapons you'll be taking bigger penalties -- I would suggest a double bladed sword, and two short swords.

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