Yes, they will never get those higher level domain abilities.
There needs to be some reason to stay in Cleric.
Another thing is that as a wizard you don't automatically get new spells when you level up either.
I don't want to resurrect an old thread, but I can't seem to get a straight answer anywhere else on the forums, FAQ, and Errata.
Does a mystic theurge gain domain spells?
You gain domain spells.
No, you don't. Just like witches don't gain patron spells, or wizard school spells, or sorcerers bloodline spells, or oracle mystery spells.
This essentially means that he adds the level of mystic theurge to the level of whatever other arcane spellcasting class and divine spellcasting class the character has, then determines spells per day, spells known, and caster level accordingly.
A cleric gains one domain spell slot for each level of cleric spell she can cast, from 1st on up.
Once you have a domain, you get it for each level of divine casting. So you would continue to gain domain spells and spell slots.
At 3rd level, and every two levels thereafter, a sorcerer learns an additional spell, derived from her bloodline. These spells are in addition to the number of spells given on Table: Sorcerer Spells Known.
You do not get more sorcerer bloodline spells, because you're not taking more levels as a sorcerer, so you never reach the next one.
In addition, specialist wizards receive an additional spell slot of each spell level he can cast, from 1st on up. Each day, a wizard can prepare a spell from his specialty school in that slot
Again, spell school spells are based on what spell levels you can cast, not your level as a wizard, so the theruge would get them.
At 2nd level, and every two levels thereafter, an oracle learns an additional spell derived from her mystery. These spells are in addition to the number of spells given on Table: Oracle Spells Known.
And again, you don't gain more mystery spells because you're not taking more levels as an oracle.
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So: Domains and spell school spells, yes (but not the free spells in your spellbook). Mystery and bloodline spells, no. Yet another reason not to be spont-casting theruge.
No, you don't. Just like witches don't gain patron spells, or wizard school spells, or sorcerers bloodline spells, or oracle mystery spells.
I was about to reply...
But Bobson did it better then I could have.
So.... um... yeah... What he said.
A cleric gains one domain spell slot for each level of cleric spell she can cast, from 1st on up.Once you have a domain, you get it for each level of divine casting. So you would continue to gain domain spells and spell slots.
In addition, specialist wizards receive an additional spell slot of each spell level he can cast, from 1st on up. Each day, a wizard can prepare a spell from his specialty school in that slotAgain, spell school spells are based on what spell levels you can cast, not your level as a wizard, so the theruge would get them.
So: Domains and spell school spells, yes (but not the free spells in your spellbook). Mystery and bloodline spells, no. Yet another reason not to be spont-casting theruge.
sorry to ressurect an old thread but i came across this and the information is misleading. i changed the emphasis in the quotations to clarify. as a wizard or cleric (and possibly as a domain druid) you get the extra spell slots for every spell level you can cast, however you do not get the extra spells added to your list from your domain. this means that a cleric 3 theurge 10 would have 7 domain slots but only 2 spells with which to fill them all since access to the spells themselves is (like domain powers) dependent on cleric level.
this means that a cleric 3 theurge 10 would have 7 domain slots but only 2 spells with which to fill them all since access to the spells themselves is (like domain powers) dependent on cleric level.
I disagree. First of all, domain powers reference cleric level, while domain spells are sorted by spell level (unlike bloodline, patron and mystery spells, which are all sorted by class level).
From the rulebook:
Each domain grants a number of domain powers, dependent upon the level of the cleric, as well as a number of bonus spells.
Implying that the powers are level-based, but the the bonus spells aren't.
A cleric gains one domain spell slot for each level of cleric spell she can cast, from 1st on up. Each day, a cleric can prepare one of the spells from her two domains in that slot.
The ability to cast domain spells is a class feature of a 1. level Cleric, that scales with the level of spells you can cast. If a hypothetical metamagic feat had a level adjustment of -1, a first level Cleric could use it to cast a 2nd level domain spells.
Counterargument?
I'm forced to agree that a mythic theurge would still accrue domain spells and specialist slots, since they are tied to the caster's available spell levels rather than class level.
yeah, now that you point out that wording and that the spells are sorted by level you probably should still get access to them. i don't know why i thought they were based on cleric level. i maintain that the sources referenced still only refer to getting spell slots for each level, but it is certainly arguable that you should still get the spells themselves.
At each new sorcerer level, she gains one or more new spells, as indicated on Table 3–15.
At each new wizard level, he gains two new spells of any spell level or levels that he can cast (based on his new wizard level) for his spellbook.
Aren't thay gained the same way?
these are the number of spells known to both classes?One static/fixed (Table 3–15) and the other variable (CL*2+'extra')
When a new mystic theurge level is gained, the character gains new spells per day as if he had also gained a level in any one arcane spellcasting class he belonged to before he added the prestige class and any one divine spellcasting class he belonged to previously. He does not, however, gain other benefits a character of that class would have gained. This essentially means that he adds the level of mystic theurge to the level of whatever other arcane spellcasting class and divine spellcasting class the character has, then determines spells per day, spells known, and caster level accordingly. If a character had more than one arcane spellcasting class or more than one divine spellcasting class before he became a mystic theurge, he must decide to which class he adds each level of mystic theurge for the purpose of determining spells per day.
Everything spellbased should goes up and anything else doesn't.
those should include all spell subtypes: Domain, Bloodline, Patron, Mysterie,... and exclude spell-like abilities and other powers.