Compel Hostility spell


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Compel Hostility

School enchantment (compulsion) [mind-affecting]; Level bard 1, cleric 1, inquisitor 1, paladin 1, ranger 1, summoner 1, witch 1

Casting Time 1 standard action

Components V, S, M (a drop of your blood)

Range personal

Target you

Duration 1 round/level

Saving Throw see text; Spell Resistance see text

Whenever a creature you can see that threatens you makes an attack against one of your allies, as an immediate action, you can compel that creature to attack you instead. When you compel a creature to attack you, you must first overcome that creature's spell resistance, and the creature can attempt a Will saving throw to ignore the compulsion.

A summoner casting this spell can choose his eidolon as the target of the spell.

This is dumm question but I will ask it any way.

A) How many time can I take that Immedate action once per level?
B) Once per casting?
C) Should this spell not be an an Immeadte casting spell?
D) Should the target of this get a save each round as it a on going effect like most over spell of this type?

I like the "Idea" of this spell I think I am missing some thing in the wording of it.


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Immediate Actions


FarmerBob wrote:

Immediate Actions

That answer nothing that I asked... You lost me in your vague answer.

You get one Immediate Action per turn.

That I know, but if I cast that spell and it last one round per level and if 5th level caster can I do it 5 times over the course of the Duration of the spell. Or is it once and the monster/ bad guy has to attack me and only me for 5 rounds or what ever is left on the spell duration.

Can get up to 5 monster/ bad guy to attack me ?

New Quetion

E) What is and attack for this spell melee? spell? ect.

Do not fire ball him Fire ball me... Do this count as an attack? ect
It count as far breaking invisibility?


Spells that include an enemy in the area of effect count as an attack, I'm pretty sure.

Sczarni

Here we go.

Someone casts Compell Hostility on me, the big bad barbarian.

I hit my orc enemy.

My orc enemy swings at my helpful wizard buddy.

I make him attack me instead using an immediate action allowed by the spell.

The effect ends.

My friend the wizard has to cat it on me again to get another use.


Tom S 820 wrote:
That answer nothing that I asked... You lost me in your vague answer.

Sigh.

Tom S 820 wrote:
A) How many time can I take that Immedate action once per level?

Once per round.

Tom S 820 wrote:
B) Once per casting?

Once per round.

Tom S 820 wrote:
C) Should this spell not be an an Immeadte casting spell?

No.

Tom S 820 wrote:
D) Should the target of this get a save each round as it a on going effect like most over spell of this type?

The target is you. You cast it on yourself. Each round, you can use it to affect the attack of one opponent that threatens you, but is attacking someone else. Doing so is an immediate action, and is something you do as part of the opponent's attack. The opponent you target can make a Will save to resist the effect. It only affects that attack that round (I think).

Tom S 820 wrote:
Can get up to 5 monster/ bad guy to attack me ?

No. You get one immediate action/round, and you affect one target with that immediate action. It doesn't continue into subsequent rounds. You can retarget that opponent 5 times, or 5 different opponents once.

New Quetion

Tom S 820 wrote:
E) What is and attack for this spell melee? spell? ect.

You can only target someone who attacks an ally but is threatening you. It isn't specific, but I'd limit it to the attack type that the opponent was using. Casting an area spell isn't an attack, but using a spell as a melee touch attack is (IMHO).

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How about Compel Hostility worked in conjunction with Sanctuary? Is Compel Hostility considered a non-attack spell?

"I got him to attack me, but then he couldn't. Sucka!"


Darksmokepuncher wrote:

Here we go.

Someone casts Compell Hostility on me, the big bad barbarian.

I hit my orc enemy.

My orc enemy swings at my helpful wizard buddy.

I make him attack me instead using an immediate action allowed by the spell.

The effect ends.

My friend the wizard has to cat it on me again to get another use.

ehm, no. the spell is persona, and once you use the immediate action, it doesnt end the effect


Sliska Zafir wrote:

How about Compel Hostility worked in conjunction with Sanctuary? Is Compel Hostility considered a non-attack spell?

"I got him to attack me, but then he couldn't. Sucka!"

While entertaining to think about, since compel hostility is an offensive spell that requires a will save, it would break sanctuary.


I was searching through the discussions for this as I am building an inquisitor. Do people love this spell? I want the effect but it seems like a low will save for a tank-ey dude and not affected by judgments.

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barry lyndon wrote:
I was searching through the discussions for this as I am building an inquisitor. Do people love this spell? I want the effect but it seems like a low will save for a tank-ey dude and not affected by judgments.

I haven't seen it used much, but to me the answer is going to depend on 3 things.

#1 How squishy are the other people standing in melee (to me the word Threaten in the spell description is a rule. You do not threaten with any ranged attacks and spells other than touch). A fighter probably has similar AC to the inquisitor and more hit points. Rogues and wizards/clerics specializing in touch spells often need the help. It's great for the sword and board inquisitor that flanks with a rogue, terrible for the bow inquisitor that has an enlarged barbarian in the party.

#2 How long are you going to be stuck with it? For a PFS or other character with about a 10 level career it will probably be good for the majority. If you go much past 8 though creatures are going to have gained at least a +4 against the save compared to level 1 also immunity to mind-affects gets more common and you'll want to trade it out.

#3 Is related to #2. If your campaign is going to have a lot of Vermin, Undead or other things that are immune to mind-affects its going to be terrible.


Hmm good points. Thanks, I think I will choose something else.

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