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When casting a touch spell, such as chill touch, if you choose to hold the charge, will you then be able to attack with a sword in one hand and the use the chill touch as an off hand weapon? Plus if touching a friend is a standard action ,while holding the charge, what kind of action is touching yourself or an opponent?
Source: page 185 in the core rule book.
When casting a touch spell, such as chill touch, if you choose to hold the charge, will you then be able to attack with a sword in one hand and the use the chill touch as an off hand weapon? Plus if touching a friend is a standard action ,while holding the charge, what kind of action is touching yourself or an opponent?
You can hold the charge and attack with an off-hand touch, but you would incur all the penalties for Two-Weapon Fighting, making it a -4/-8 to hit unless you have the feat, in which case it would just be -2/-2.
I'm not sure if there are official rules about this, but in our group, self-touch spells are a swift action to apply (though not necessarily a swift action to cast). So it would still be a standard action to cast Cure Light Wounds, but if you chose to hold it and then during your next turn wanted to apply it to yourself, we would treat it as a swift action.
Touching your enemy is a standard action unless it's done as part of the "free" touch that is given when casting a touch spell, or as part of a full-attack action with two weapon fighting (as above, in which case it is an attack action).
When casting a touch spell, such as chill touch, if you choose to hold the charge, will you then be able to attack with a sword in one hand and the use the chill touch as an off hand weapon? Plus if touching a friend is a standard action ,while holding the charge, what kind of action is touching yourself or an opponent?You can hold the charge and attack with an off-hand touch, but you would incur all the penalties for Two-Weapon Fighting, making it a -4/-8 to hit unless you have the feat, in which case it would just be -2/-2.
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Can you provide a page reference?
Can you provide a page reference?When casting a touch spell, such as chill touch, if you choose to hold the charge, will you then be able to attack with a sword in one hand and the use the chill touch as an off hand weapon? Plus if touching a friend is a standard action ,while holding the charge, what kind of action is touching yourself or an opponent?You can hold the charge and attack with an off-hand touch, but you would incur all the penalties for Two-Weapon Fighting, making it a -4/-8 to hit unless you have the feat, in which case it would just be -2/-2.
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The rules don't need to specifically allow this. You have both a melee touch attack that you can discharge by simply touching (or actually striking, if against normal AC) the enemy with your unarmed strike, which is a light weapon in your empty hand. You have another weapon in your other hand. You can TWF with these weapons.
The rules don't need to specifically allow this. You have both a melee touch attack that you can discharge by simply touching (or actually striking, if against normal AC) the enemy with your unarmed strike, which is a light weapon in your empty hand. You have another weapon in your other hand. You can TWF with these weapons.
+1. You use the attack action to make a touch attack, and you are considered armed when you are holding a charge.
One thing I hadn't considered is that you could full attack with a touch spell, if you were holding the charge and had multiple charges (such as Produce Flame).
When casting a touch spell, such as chill touch, if you choose to hold the charge, will you then be able to attack with a sword in one hand and the use the chill touch as an off hand weapon?
While you should be able to do this with TWF (and a Magus should be able to do so without it), the rules are silent on exactly how much like a "normal" weapon attack a held touch spell behaves. In the end, DM's call.
Note: I'd allow it.
Edit: I think this is FAQ worthy. Please click.
Wasn't there a thread awhile back about produce flame which one of the paizo crew chimed in about touch attacks with spells? Might want to do a search for it.
Wasn't there a thread awhile back about produce flame which one of the paizo crew chimed in about touch attacks with spells? Might want to do a search for it.
I think this is what you are thinking about.
James mentions produce flame but says it is the general rule that applies to touch spells.
No reiterative attacks for touch spells is the rule.
Which is also why a would like the reference I asked for above. The interpretation discussed in this thread, that you can dual wield touch spells, is not supported by the RAW in as far as I have been able to determine.