And this time it isn't 'should you close your eyes when fighting someone with mirror images'...
Question 1:
The spell says you can create up to 8 images. Say I cast mirror image and create four images. Then I cast it again and create three images. Do I now have seven images? Or four? Or three?
Question 2:
If a friendly cleric wants to cast a touch spell on you, can he do that without risking hitting an image? Do you have to be aware of what he's doing and reach out to touch him? What if he's cast 'status', which allows him to know the 'distance and direction' of the target?
And does it work the same if you're unconscious?
And this time it isn't 'should you close your eyes when fighting someone with mirror images'...
Question 1:
The spell says you can create up to 8 images. Say I cast mirror image and create four images. Then I cast it again and create three images. Do I now have seven images? Or four? Or three?
Question 2:
If a friendly cleric wants to cast a touch spell on you, can he do that without risking hitting an image? Do you have to be aware of what he's doing and reach out to touch him? What if he's cast 'status', which allows him to know the 'distance and direction' of the target?And does it work the same if you're unconscious?
1. No, the second spell would overwrite the first spell and you'd only have 3 images.
2. The cleric would risk hitting an image just like an enemy would. Status won't help.
I don't think being unconscious makes a difference with Mirror Image.
1. No, the second spell would overwrite the first spell and you'd only have 3 images.
I'm going to disagree on this one. While they definitely don't stack, I would rule you would still have four images. (I'm using the 'same effect--different strength' instead of 'same effect--differing results' clause. Because I believe someone could argue those images are just irrelevant while the second spell is in place and when the second spell ends the four from the first casting would then become relevant again.)
2. The cleric would risk hitting an image just like an enemy would. Status won't help.
Agree, but I would like to add that you can touch up to six friends as a full-round action. So, if the cleric missed the first time he could flail around the next round and be pretty sure to hit him.
I don't think being unconscious makes a difference with Mirror Image.
Ditto. You just have several unconscious friends to choose from. Good time to channel.
I had never considered the effect of Mirror Image on Cure Light Wounds before. After poking through the rules, I think CLW is fully affected by MI. It's a touch attack, but since the target is willing, the touch automatically succeeds. You then roll to see which image was affected. You don't hold the charge if your touch attack succeeds.
Whenever you are attacked or are the target of a spell that requires an attack roll, there is a possibility that the attack targets one of your images instead. If the attack is a hit, roll randomly to see whether the selected target is real or a figment. If it is a figment, the figment is destroyed. ... Spells that require a touch attack are harmlessly discharged if used to destroy a figment.
So, if a wizard and lich both have MI up, the same rules are followed by the cleric using CLW.
1) Make a touch attack (roll for lich, auto succeed for wizard)
2) If the touch attack hits, the spell is discharged.
3) If an image is hit, the image is destroyed
4) If the target is hit, the spell resolves.
Agree, but I would like to add that you can touch up to six friends as a full-round action. So, if the cleric missed the first time he could flail around the next round and be pretty sure to hit him.
Not sure about that. If you try to touch a friend with MI, you either hit him or the image, and the spell is gone.
Agree, but I would like to add that you can touch up to six friends as a full-round action. So, if the cleric missed the first time he could flail around the next round and be pretty sure to hit him.Not sure about that. If you try to touch a friend with MI, you either hit him or the image, and the spell is gone.
You're right, Bob. I was going from memory and thinking it behaved more like invisibility. So, it seems you would indeed discharge the spell.
I think someone who wants to be touched could move to receive the touch, even out of his turn - that's how we've been playing it. But not if you're unconscious, presumably.
(And then the 'what if you close your eyes' question comes into play - the rules seem to suggest you can then act as if he's invisible which gives you a 50% chance of connecting, and if you miss it doesn't lose the touch spell or destroy an image...)
What if you're dead and in need of a Breath of Life? Does that make the images disappear?
If a friendly cleric wants to cast a touch spell on you, can he do that without risking hitting an image?
I disagree with most of the posters so far.
Mirror Image: "Whenever you are attacked or are the target of a spell that requires an attack roll, there is a possibility that the attack targets one of your images instead."
Does Cure Light Wounds require an attack roll?
Touch Spells in Combat: "You can automatically touch one friend or use the spell on yourself, but to touch an opponent, you must succeed on an attack roll."
This implies there is no attack roll to touch a willing friend. Since there is no attack roll, there is no chance of hitting an image.
And I agree with James Jacobs, player death can be disruptive, annoying, and frustrating. Having party heal spells miss due to beneficial defensive spells doesn't help.
I think someone who wants to be touched could move to receive the touch, even out of his turn - that's how we've been playing it.
Nothing in the rules suggests you can be move to receive a spell. All the figments would behave alike so all would move to receive the spell in any case.
I think it hinges more on the interpretation of "Whenever you are attacked or are the target of a spell that requires an attack roll." When used on a friend, a cure spell doesn't require an attack roll, when used against an enemy it does. So does the intended usage actually change whether a cure spell is considered to have an attack roll or not?
What if you're dead and in need of a Breath of Life? Does that make the images disappear?
Spells presumably continue to function even after you're dead. They just generally don't have any effect.
This implies there is no attack roll to touch a willing friend. Since there is no attack roll, there is no chance of hitting an image.
I considered that angle, but opted to go the other direction as a matter of consistency. I interpret it as being a touch attack which happens to auto-succeed regardless of the attack roll, so there's no need to roll the die.
Spells such as Blink, Blur, Invisibility, etc, don't distinguish between friend and foe. Neither does Spell Resistance. If you want to cast CLW on someone with those defensive abilities, you are affected as much as the bad guys. Don't see why Mirror Image should be an exception.
When someone wants to be touched, they might hold out their hand to make it easy for the caster. With MI running, the caster now sees 5 hands extended and has to pick one.