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They need to make a concentration check if they cast inside a threatened area or while distracted (like all spellcasters). The only real difference is that they can cast and attack in one turn however there are two important things to remember: If using a weapon to deliver a touch attack you can cast then move then deliver the attack (touch attack spells grant a free attack with the spell), also when making a full attack action and casting you can cast then 5 foot step then make your attacks so unless they have reach you avoid the need for a concentration check entirely.
All Spellstrike does is allow you to deliver a touch spell with your weapon instead of with a touch. That's it. You get weapon damage in addition to the spell, and you hit VS normal AC instead of touch AC. All the other normal rules of casting and using touch spells apply.
So anyone casting a touch spell in a threatened area may make a concentration check to avoid provokeing an attack of opportunity. (It's an option because they could choose to just take the AoO and hope they can concentrate through the damage, if any)
The only real difference is that they can cast and attack in one turn however there are two important things to remember: If using a weapon to deliver a touch attack you can cast then move then deliver the attack
Yes, this is also true without Spellstrike. Any caster can cast a touch spell, move, then deliver the spell as a free action.
Not if all you're taking is a 5' step.
Not if all you're taking is a 5' step.Ok, please correct me if I'm wrong but I was always told the 5' step was something that happened after the standard action and not before.
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A 5' step is a free action, and free actions can be taken at any point during your turn.
So you can 5' away from an enemy (free action), draw a potion (move action), then drink it (standard action). Or you could draw a potion, drink it, then 5' closer to your enemy. Or you could draw a sword (move action), 5' closer (free action), then attack (standard action). And so on.
The only restriction is that if you 5' step, you can't use your move action to move, and if you use your move action to move, you can't 5' step.
Wouldn't this last option negate the ability of a full round attack option though?
Eel is correct. A level 12 wizard (BAB 6) can cast Quickened Chill Touch, take a 5' step, make his free touch attack, then do a full attack and attempt 2 more touches.
I was always told the 5' step was something that happened after the standard action and not before.
5' step: "If you move no actual distance in a round (commonly because you have swapped your move action for one or more equivalent actions), you can take one 5-foot step either before, during, or after the action."
Indeed, in fact a 8th level(or any character with enough bab for iterative attacks) or higher magus can actually take a 5ft step between iterative attacks.
take lunge feat and you need not ever make concentration checks when spell combating/spellstriking since your 10' from your target. unless of course your target has reach.
take lunge feat and you need not ever make concentration checks when spell combating/spellstriking since your 10' from your target. unless of course your target has reach.
Lunge is nice, but it's good to be able to threaten opponents on their turn. A better feat investment might be combat casting. Combined with a trait, if you've got one, you can have +6 on concentration checks without taking an attack penalty.
Level 8 Magus with 18 Int, Combat casting, and Desperate Focus: +20 concentration. Auto-succeed on Level 0, 1, and 2 spells, and just don't roll a 1 for level 3 spells.
take lunge feat and you need not ever make concentration checks when spell combating/spellstriking since your 10' from your target. unless of course your target has reach.Lunge is nice, but it's good to be able to threaten opponents on their turn. A better feat investment might be combat casting. Combined with a trait, if you've got one, you can have +6 on concentration checks without taking an attack penalty.
Level 8 Magus with 18 Int, Combat casting, and Desperate Focus: +20 concentration. Auto-succeed on Level 0, 1, and 2 spells, and just don't roll a 1 for level 3 spells.
true but lunge solves the problem at 2nd level when you first pickup spell combat.
Magus is fine once you get over the concentration hump, although even though your autosuccessing don't forget you can have additional modifiers imposed on your concentration check, which may turn that autosuccess into a 25% or worse chance of failure.
lunge solves the problem at 2nd level when you first pickup spell combat.
Magus can't take Lunge until level 8. (Requires BAB +6)