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Liberty's Edge

Could somebody check my math regarding this Ex Power

I have a 3 level fighter with strength 20

At 3rd level, when a two-handed fighter makes a single attack (with the attack action or a charge) with a two-handed weapon, he adds double his Strength bonus on damage rolls.

I have a 3 level fighter with strength 20

So the damaage with a Two handed great sword would be

2d6 + 5 (str) + 5 (Double) +5 (x1.5 two handed weapon) = 2d6+15?

OR is it 2d6 + 5 (str) + 5 (Double) +2 (x1.5 two handed weapon from the natural str bonus) = 2d6 +12


Solitare wrote:

Could somebody check my math regarding this Ex Power

I have a 3 level fighter with strength 20

At 3rd level, when a two-handed fighter makes a single attack (with the attack action or a charge) with a two-handed weapon, he adds double his Strength bonus on damage rolls.

I have a 3 level fighter with strength 20

So the damaage with a Two handed great sword would be

2d6 + 5 (str) + 5 (Double) +5 (x1.5 two handed weapon) = 2d6+15?

OR is it 2d6 + 5 (str) + 5 (Double) +2 (x1.5 two handed weapon from the natural str bonus) = 2d6 +12

Sorry, it is 2d6+10.


Solitare wrote:

Could somebody check my math regarding this Ex Power

I have a 3 level fighter with strength 20

At 3rd level, when a two-handed fighter makes a single attack (with the attack action or a charge) with a two-handed weapon, he adds double his Strength bonus on damage rolls.

I have a 3 level fighter with strength 20

So the damaage with a Two handed great sword would be

2d6 + 5 (str) + 5 (Double) +5 (x1.5 two handed weapon) = 2d6+15?

OR is it 2d6 + 5 (str) + 5 (Double) +2 (x1.5 two handed weapon from the natural str bonus) = 2d6 +12

None. 2d6 + 10


Without the feat: 2d6+7

With: 2d6+10. Instead of 1.5 bonus damage, you get double.

Liberty's Edge

Thank you for quick reply. Will now ammend character sheet.


Benicio Del Espada wrote:

Without the feat: 2d6+7

With: 2d6+10. Instead of 1.5 bonus damage, you get double.

There is no feat. It's an Archetype.


Why is a plus 10 not plus 12?


Cheapy wrote:
Why is a plus 10 not plus 12?

It's granting double the strength bonus instead of 1.5 times strength bonus. (The 2x replaces the normal 1.5x) Strength bonuses do not stack.


Xum wrote:
Benicio Del Espada wrote:

Without the feat: 2d6+7

With: 2d6+10. Instead of 1.5 bonus damage, you get double.

There is no feat. It's an Archetype.

Yes, you're right. It was a feat back in beta. Barbarians everywhere are still crying.


Solitare wrote:

Could somebody check my math regarding this Ex Power

I have a 3 level fighter with strength 20

At 3rd level, when a two-handed fighter makes a single attack (with the attack action or a charge) with a two-handed weapon, he adds double his Strength bonus on damage rolls.

I have a 3 level fighter with strength 20

So the damaage with a Two handed great sword would be

2d6 + 5 (str) + 5 (Double) +5 (x1.5 two handed weapon) = 2d6+15?

OR is it 2d6 + 5 (str) + 5 (Double) +2 (x1.5 two handed weapon from the natural str bonus) = 2d6 +12

It's +17 your normal attack from a two hander adds +7 overhand chop adds +10 to that. Overhand chop does not say, (instead of the normal 1.5) just further down the page in the same rule book by a few lines it says "Greater power attack" that is clearly defined as "instead of and not in addition to "the X1.5 from power attack" why were rules worded one way and then another a few lines apart? They weren't, they are both as written.


@BenKey
You cannot add a strength bonus to a damage roll twice. It doesnt say instead of the normal 1.5X because it is a typed bonus unlike power attack and wont stack.Power attack is untyped so without that wording it would double up.

just because you have something twice doesnt mean they stack, Bracers of armor don't stack with mage armor which doesnt stack with wearing armor because they are all armour bonuses to AC.

Bonuses are numerical values that are added to checks and statistical scores. Most bonuses have a type, and as a general rule, bonuses of the same type are not cumulative (do not “stack”)—only the greater bonus granted applies.

Sczarni

Also, this thread is four years old. It was created before we had the FAQ stating that they don't stack.

I saw you necro'd another thread that was just as old. If you filter for newer threads next time you'll have fresher information.


I've seen this question come up, so I was looking for an answer as to why there was no clarification in the rule book saying "instead" like there was for other rules. I typed in "Overhand chop" into the search and these were the first threads I found that were talking about my question. The evil monk answered my question. = Win

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