Indeed. This thread also makes me think that bladed gauntlet from 3.5 might do well, but I can't remember if it had a great crit threat range, and a x2 mod, or if it had a 19-20 range and a x3 mod. In either case the upside of the gauntlet is the "hands free" aspect. Anyone know if there is a PF analog TP the bladed gauntlet?
Mok, good luck carrying any gear with a strength of 5 :)
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Hmm...
So play a Halfling Magus, dump Strength (down to 5), Dex goes to 20 and end up getting +5 to hit and damage with the scimitar. Not bad... small size helps compensate for medium BAB. Then add in all the magical stuff and that seems worthwhile. The only real drawback is that you have to wait till 3rd level... blasphemous!
With 20 point buy you could do:
Str 7 (5)
Dex 18 (20)
Con 12
Int 16
Wis 9
Cha 7 (9)At 4th level just stabilize Wisdom and you should be good to go.
I'd kind of written the Magus off, but this might make it worth while to play. Thanks!
Ahh... and you could dip into Alchemist to get the mutagen and have 10 minute intervals of another +4 to Dex, and it would cross over well with the Magus Int spellcasting. Noice!
You might be better off playing an elf with permanent reduce person.
Mok, good luck carrying any gear with a strength of 5 :)Big Dumb Fighter?
Muleback Cords? Ant Haul?
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The GM might not allow spell combat to be used with the dervish dance feat. While it can be interpreted that it should not, attacking with the off hand (or using it to cast spells) can be seen as going against the spirit of the rule.
Or not : see SKR's post in this thread
I like the whip's reach, but
1) It is Exotic
2) It does not threaten
3) It provokes as if it was a ranged weapon
I see ways to go around 1) (Heirloom Weapon trait, for example) and 2) (armor spikes), but no easy way around 3).
In fact I am pretty sure that in PFS Point-Blank Master would not apply as the whip is not a true ranged weapon. Does anyone know it there is a trait/feat/racial variant/whatever which helps with the 3) point ?
Mok, good luck carrying any gear with a strength of 5 :)
Pray that you never fight str draining creatures either.
RAW: Rules As Written
RAI: Rules As Intended
Just wanted to say, I dislike how paizo boosts the importance of weapons with a wide crit range beyond the basic damage output which is already superior on average with the exception of a few rare creatures ; oozes, elementals and incorporeal creatures mainly.
I am considering banning/changing the 18-20 range weapons or rewriting the feats abilities introduced in pathfinder that favor weapons with better crit ranges. Would you guys consider it a nerve on the magus specifically if your GM disallowed 18-20 crit weapons ? If it is considered weakening the class too much, I could consider changing the ability to cast a spell as a free action 1/round on a crit instead so at least it can be combined with Eldritch Strike feat or any other swift action in the same round.
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Just wanted to say, I dislike how paizo boosts the importance of weapons with a wide crit range beyond the basic damage output which is already superior on average with the exception of a few rare creatures ; oozes, elementals and incorporeal creatures mainly.
I am considering banning/changing the 18-20 range weapons or rewriting the feats abilities introduced in pathfinder that favor weapons with better crit ranges. Would you guys consider it a nerve on the magus specifically if your GM disallowed 18-20 crit weapons ? If it is considered weakening the class too much, I could consider changing the ability to cast a spell as a free action 1/round on a crit instead so at least it can be combined with Eldritch Strike feat or any other swift action in the same round.
No. I would also consider it a nerf on TWF characters and every martial character not using a falcata.
No. I would also consider it a nerf on TWF characters and every martial character not using a falcata.Just wanted to say, I dislike how paizo boosts the importance of weapons with a wide crit range beyond the basic damage output which is already superior on average with the exception of a few rare creatures ; oozes, elementals and incorporeal creatures mainly.
I am considering banning/changing the 18-20 range weapons or rewriting the feats abilities introduced in pathfinder that favor weapons with better crit ranges. Would you guys consider it a nerve on the magus specifically if your GM disallowed 18-20 crit weapons ? If it is considered weakening the class too much, I could consider changing the ability to cast a spell as a free action 1/round on a crit instead so at least it can be combined with Eldritch Strike feat or any other swift action in the same round.
Would it hurt the playability of the magus compared to other martial/melee characters or would it be fairly insignificant in comparison ?
I do not want to specifically hurt a building block of the class while adjusting the impact of crits in the game, I havent played a magus yet and it is hard to tell how much it would affect the magus.
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Would it hurt the playability of the magus compared to other martial/melee characters or would it be fairly insignificant in comparison ?
I do not want to specifically hurt a building block of the class while adjusting the impact of crits in the game, I havent played a magus yet and it is hard to tell how much it would affect the magus.
I'd say it hurts other styles more than the magus. It also hurts dexterity based magi, compared to strength based ones.
There are abilties that benefit more from high threat weapons. But there are also abilities that benefit more from high multiplier weapons (like Devastating Blow) or benefit from combining both (like Butterfly's Sting).
As written, weapons with a high threat range or a high multiplier are probably better than other weapons (with the exception of the falcata). But if you remove these, the mediocre weapons become superior. What's the point of a falchion if a greatsword does more damage?