Guns And Shield


Gunslinger Discussion: Round 2


Ok here's the problem! I'm running this campaign and one of my players wants to make a multiclass fighter-gunslinger. So far so good. But then he tells me he wants to play holding a gun on one hand and a tower shield on the other. I can see shooting a gun while holding a shield, but wouldn't reloading the gun be a problem? I mean, dont you need two hands to reload the thing? And its not like he wants to use a buckler! The tower shield is a behemoth of a shield and it seems difficult to me, to be able to use your hand for anything else besides holding it in place!! He tells me that its a rational thing to do ( you know,i'll grab the gun with my fingertips and i will load it with the other hand) but I honestly thing its not that easy. . Of course I've been wrong before so if anybody can enlighten me I would be grateful.

The Exchange

Need two hands to reload, buckler maybe light shield. Heavy or tower is definitely not going to work


Yeah thats what i thought!! But really, some times I think that having to fight with your players, time and time again, over such matters is the curse the GMs have to bear. Or it might be happening only to me, I dont know! Anyway, thank you very much for the quick answer!!!


Lefteris wrote:

Yeah thats what i thought!! But really, some times I think that having to fight with your players, time and time again, over such matters is the curse the GMs have to bear. Or it might be happening only to me, I dont know! Anyway, thank you very much for the quick answer!!!

Also, why do you think that you don't get tower shield proficiencies with any class? They are too big and heavy to manage normally without special training. Maybe give a feat (with prereqs) to reloading easier with the gun/tower combo. All crossbows require two hands to load, so i would suggest reloading the gun with a tower shield one or two steps harder than normal to reload. If it's a move action, then standard; standard, then a full round.


jonnylobster wrote:
Lefteris wrote:

Yeah thats what i thought!! But really, some times I think that having to fight with your players, time and time again, over such matters is the curse the GMs have to bear. Or it might be happening only to me, I dont know! Anyway, thank you very much for the quick answer!!!

Also, why do you think that you don't get tower shield proficiencies with any class? They are too big and heavy to manage normally without special training. Maybe give a feat (with prereqs) to reloading easier with the gun/tower combo. All crossbows require two hands to load, so i would suggest reloading the gun with a tower shield one or two steps harder than normal to reload. If it's a move action, then standard; standard, then a full round.

....or... you could just let him USE the pistol with the tower shield, but disallow him being able to reload it while the shield is equipped. If he wants to take the time to drop the shield to reload his gun, or to swap guns mid-fight, that's his business... check out the quickdraw shield in the PRD's advanced gear section, it could be a reasonable compromise.

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