It is synonymous with fortitude..
Ha it agrees with me! Grit should reaally be based off CON.
It also means british. :/
World English Dictionary
charisma or charism (kəˈrɪzmə, ˈkærɪzəm) [Click for IPA pronunciation guide]— n
1. a special personal quality or power of an individual making him capable of influencing or inspiring large numbers of people
2. a quality inherent in a thing which inspires great enthusiasm and devotion
It is synonymous with fortitude..
Ha it agrees with me! Grit should reaally be based off CON.
It also means british. :/
World English Dictionary
charisma or charism (kəˈrɪzmə, ˈkærɪzəm) [Click for IPA pronunciation guide]— n
1. a special personal quality or power of an individual making him capable of influencing or inspiring large numbers of people
2. a quality inherent in a thing which inspires great enthusiasm and devotion
Constitution has always been seen as physical (imo of course), with Wisdom applying to mental toughness / willpower. I think of "grit" as the ability to transcend the physical and drive yourself on despite physical limits. Wisdom, in short. Ymmv. As for Charisam, you've just pointed out the reason (Charisma = power) that got it linked to magical power (Sorcerors for example) in D&D 3.0. It makes sense in a fantasy setting that force / power of personality would express itself magically. Hence the Ki = Charisma argument. There are always other interpretations possible, but it's not difficult to see why the designers made the choices they did. For the most part, I agree with them.
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It is synonymous with fortitude..
Ha it agrees with me! Grit should reaally be based off CON.
It also means british. :/
Where are you getting Grit means "British"? Dictionary.com?
You know when they start an entry with "British" in italics, that means they're giving the British usage...in this case a link to the entry for 'gravel'.
It is synonymous with fortitude..
Ha it agrees with me! Grit should reaally be based off CON.
It also means british. :/
Where are you getting Grit means "British"? Dictionary.com?
You know when they start an entry with "British" in italics, that means they're giving the British usage...in this case a link to the entry for 'gravel'.
I know. Just was going down the list and it struck me.
However, But still. Here in Tucson, there is a big thing going on about it being the hundreth aniversery. So the local paper has a bunch of stuff on cowboys cowboy movies and John Dillanger.
Really grit/ninja ki needs to have wisdom or cha. The wisdom people can make thier brooding loner type of gunslingers, and I can make Earps.
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I know. Just was going down the list and it struck me.However, But still. Here in Tucson, there is a big thing going on about it being the hundreth aniversery. So the local paper has a bunch of stuff on cowboys cowboy movies and John Dillanger.
Really grit/ninja ki needs to have wisdom or cha. The wisdom people can make thier brooding loner type of gunslingers, and I can make Earps.
Basing Grit off of Wisdom doesn't mean you can't play a Charismatic Gunslinger, nor does it mean the Gunslinger automatically becomes a 'brooding loner'.
Put one of your mid-range scores into Cha. You'll be able to play Earp or James or whatever historical gunfighter you want just fine. They may have had Charisma, but they also had guts.
Plus, with a high Wisdom score, you'll be good a Profession: Gambler, an iconic old west skill. ;)
It really comes downto what Paizo chooses to do, but I for one believe in options. So if they allow players to choose between Wis or Cha for both grit/ninja ki, then I would be happy.
I know. Just was going down the list and it struck me.However, But still. Here in Tucson, there is a big thing going on about it being the hundreth aniversery. So the local paper has a bunch of stuff on cowboys cowboy movies and John Dillanger.
Really grit/ninja ki needs to have wisdom or cha. The wisdom people can make thier brooding loner type of gunslingers, and I can make Earps.
Basing Grit off of Wisdom doesn't mean you can't play a Charismatic Gunslinger, nor does it mean the Gunslinger automatically becomes a 'brooding loner'.
Put one of your mid-range scores into Cha. You'll be able to play Earp or James or whatever historical gunfighter you want just fine. They may have had Charisma, but they also had guts.
Plus, with a high Wisdom score, you'll be good a Profession: Gambler, an iconic old west skill. ;)
Though with high cha, I'd be good at bluffing. Which is also an iconic old west skill..
Something else.. People keep talking about how cowboys were fearless and thats why they should be based of wis. They also say that ninjas should be based off cha. But wouldn't this mean that the ninjas then are going against the iconic state and are easily scared by everything?