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Scarab Sages

Not sure what happened to the other Conan thread we had, and I don't feel like looking for it, but here is the brand spanking new trailer.

Can this even be called a "teaser trailer"? I hope they come out with something a bit more substantial soon.

For those who may not recall, this is the new version with Jason Momoa as Conan. From what I've seen he's come to look the part well enough. My only concern now is the actual story.


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I saw a ton of set photos for this at Gen Con and I have got to say that they got the look down pretty much pat. It also looks like it's going to have a _lot_ of blood and dismemberment, which is likely appropriate. Also: Rose McGowan.

That said, it's the story and the acting that will make or break this movie for me, and pictures don't speak to either of those things.

Scarab Sages

From Wikipedia:

Plot Synopsis:

After his father is murdered and village destroyed, Conan ventures into an unforgiving world where he survives as a thief, pirate, and warrior. On his path of wanton adventure and women, Conan chances upon the warlord responsible for his tribe’s destruction. As he tracks Khalar Zym, Conan battles monsters, Zym's henchmen, and Marique, a powerful witch.

With Stephen Lang as Khalar Zym and Rose McGowan as the witch Marique. Could be good. I'm hoping that it at least makes enough money to interest the studio in a sequal, and that they then work on converting some actual REH Conan stories to the big screen.

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I'll have to go see the film for Donna* if nothing else.

Though the thought of a scantly clad Rose McGowan** does help increase my desire to go.

*

Spoiler:
Donna loved Jason Momoa on SG Atlantis, and would have loved to see him (bare chested) on the big screen.

**

Spoiler:
Rose McGowan is hot, if she has questionable tastes. She dated Marilyn Manson for crying out loud!


Aberzombie wrote:

From Wikipedia:

With Stephen Lang as Khalar Zym and Rose McGowan as the witch Marique. Could be good. I'm hoping that it at least makes enough money to interest the studio in a sequal, and that they then work on converting some actual REH Conan stories to the big screen.

Indeed. I would LOVE to see A Witch Is Born, Tower of the Elephant, or Queen of the Black Coast done as a movie.


*Grumbles*

When do I get to add to Conan's legacy?! The movie's great, but I'm more than a consumer. I am a part of the Content Industry. There is a lot of Conan Short Stories I'd like to see filmed too . . .

The Phoenix on the Sword and The Frost Giant's Daughter for starters.


Rose McGowan is such a brat.

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Aberzombie wrote:

From Wikipedia:

With Stephen Lang as Khalar Zym and Rose McGowan as the witch Marique. Could be good. I'm hoping that it at least makes enough money to interest the studio in a sequal, and that they then work on converting some actual REH Conan stories to the big screen.

Lets not get ahead of ourselves here. We need to see if this first film will be any good before asking for sequels.

Scarab Sages

Pan wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:

From Wikipedia:

With Stephen Lang as Khalar Zym and Rose McGowan as the witch Marique. Could be good. I'm hoping that it at least makes enough money to interest the studio in a sequel, and that they then work on converting some actual REH Conan stories to the big screen.

Lets not get ahead of ourselves here. We need to see if this first film will be any good before asking for sequels.

And....what part of "I'm hoping that it at least makes enough money to interest the studio in a sequel..." did you not understand?

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How good a movie is has little to do with whether or not a sequel is made. I submit Leprechauns 2-6 as evidence.

If the jury will allow, I would also like to submit that Jason Momoa, as Conan, resembles an angry, neanderthal, failed gender-reassignment patient.

Scarab Sages

Aberzombie wrote:

...For those who may not recall, this is the new version with Jason Momoa as Conan. From what I've seen he's come to look the part well enough. My only concern now is the actual story.

I agree. I really hope they do Conan justice. The Conan the Barbarian comics from Darkhorse are so wonderful!! (I'm talking the new ones they did back in 2003 or 4 I believe - Frost Giant's Daughter, God in the Bowl, Tower of the Elephant, Hall of the Dead, Rogues in the House, & the Hand of Nergal, to name the first six trades I have of the run)

Conan the Cimmerian was also wonderful, when they went to the jungle island & the statues that woke in moonlight... Ahh so awesome!!


Matthew Morris wrote:

I'll have to go see the film for Donna* if nothing else.

Though the thought of a scantly clad Rose McGowan** does help increase my desire to go.

*** spoiler omitted **

**** spoiler omitted **

I just saw Rose McGowan on a new episode of Law and Order: SVU - she's had so much poorly done plastic surgery that I almost didn't recognize her.

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Seabyrn wrote:
Matthew Morris wrote:

I'll have to go see the film for Donna* if nothing else.

Though the thought of a scantly clad Rose McGowan** does help increase my desire to go.

*** spoiler omitted **

**** spoiler omitted **

I just saw Rose McGowan on a new episode of Law and Order: SVU - she's had so much poorly done plastic surgery that I almost didn't recognize her.

That's a shame, she's too damn young for the knife.

Scarab Sages

Danget! But she was so pretty!!


Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
Rose McGowan is such a brat.

Just saw her on a recent episode of Law and Order SVU the other week. Was her lips always like that or did she get them 'plumped' via Botox or plastic surgery?

EDIT: Just saw Seabyrn's ninja'ed comments after posting, so I'm not alone in thinking this.


Urizen wrote:
Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:
Rose McGowan is such a brat.

Just saw her on a recent episode of Law and Order SVU the other week. Was her lips always like that or did she get them 'plumped' via Botox or plastic surgery?

EDIT: Just saw Seabyrn's ninja'ed comments after posting, so I'm not alone in thinking this.

She had a lot of plastic surgery done - do a google search for her and 'bad plastic surgery' and you'll see before and after pictures.

here's one

I think this "after" picture makes her look a lot better than she did on Law and Order though - it's hard to describe how weird she looked on the show.


Erik Mona wrote:

I saw a ton of set photos for this at Gen Con and I have got to say that they got the look down pretty much pat. It also looks like it's going to have a _lot_ of blood and dismemberment, which is likely appropriate. Also: Rose McGowan.

That said, it's the story and the acting that will make or break this movie for me, and pictures don't speak to either of those things.

Good... I for one am getting tired of nothing but kid-centric fantasy that has some great evil that only "little Billy, the chosen one" can stop. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad there are more and more fantasy flixs but I for one and tired of Harry Potter, Percy Jackson, and the Narnia kids... *chuckle*

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zabei wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:

...For those who may not recall, this is the new version with Jason Momoa as Conan. From what I've seen he's come to look the part well enough. My only concern now is the actual story.

I agree. I really hope they do Conan justice. The Conan the Barbarian comics from Darkhorse are so wonderful!! (I'm talking the new ones they did back in 2003 or 4 I believe - Frost Giant's Daughter, God in the Bowl, Tower of the Elephant, Hall of the Dead, Rogues in the House, & the Hand of Nergal, to name the first six trades I have of the run)

Conan the Cimmerian was also wonderful, when they went to the jungle island & the statues that woke in moonlight... Ahh so awesome!!

I highly recommend going back and reading the source material. There have been many amazing comic runs staring Conan, my personal favorite is The Savage Sword of Conan, but all pale in comparison to REH's original stories.

The Exchange

Aberzombie wrote:

From Wikipedia:

Plot Synopsis:

After his father is murdered and village destroyed, Conan ventures into an unforgiving world where he survives as a thief, pirate, and warrior. On his path of wanton adventure and women, Conan chances upon the warlord responsible for his tribe’s destruction. As he tracks Khalar Zym, Conan battles monsters, Zym's henchmen, and Marique, a powerful witch.

Sounds like a basic re-hash of the first movie. Mixed feelings on that, I'd rather see something of Howard's, if they have to tell a dang origin story, at least try something different.

Oh well, the trailer looks great and Momoa looks more the part than Arnie ever did. So that's something anyway.

Scarab Sages

Wolfthulhu wrote:

Sounds like a basic re-hash of the first movie. Mixed feelings on that, I'd rather see something of Howard's, if they have to tell a dang origin story, at least try something different.

Oh well, the trailer looks great and Momoa looks more the part than Arnie ever did. So that's something anyway.

See, I'm not so sure it's a complete re-hash. Seems the basic premise is there - Conan's family killed. Years later he goes after the dude who did it. But if they can avoid stupid crap like "he spends years pushing some big f@%*ing wheel", then it's already an improvement.

Plus, the synopsis makes it sound like Conan just sort of happens on this dude while living his typical Conan life, then decides "Hey, this is the ass who killed my family. Think I'll just go ahead and get some payback."

Agreed that Mamoa looks way better than Arnie ever did.


Seabyrn wrote:

She had a lot of plastic surgery done - do a google search for her and 'bad plastic surgery' and you'll see before and after pictures.

here's one

I think this "after" picture makes her look a lot better than she did on Law and Order though - it's hard to describe how weird she looked on the show.

It was on the scale of 'WTF did you do Meg Ryan?' weird.


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Carrot Top as Conan. Directed by David Lynch.
THAT'S what I'm talking about.

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Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:

Carrot Top as Conan. Directed by David Lynch.

THAT'S what I'm talking about.

No...

Just No.

Scarab Sages

Wolfthulhu wrote:
Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:

Carrot Top as Conan. Directed by David Lynch.

THAT'S what I'm talking about.

No...

Just No.

What Wolfthulhu said. Damn you Spanky! I can never unthink that image! DAMN YOU TO HELL!


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Conan-Top

Scarab Sages

IT'S A TRAP!!!

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DON'T CLICK ON XABULBA'S LINK. IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF BEERS AND SHOWERS TO GET THAT FREAKY IMAGE OUT OF MY HEAD.

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Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
DON'T CLICK ON XABULBA'S LINK. IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF BEERS AND SHOWERS TO GET THAT FREAKY IMAGE OUT OF MY HEAD.

blocked from work!


Xabulba wrote:
Conan-Top

Speaking of "what the hell happened to your face?"...

Has anyone found any better trailers for Conan yet? I'm anxious to see something, anything, that will better sell me on the movie.

Scarab Sages

Shadowborn wrote:
Xabulba wrote:
Conan-Top

Speaking of "what the hell happened to your face?"...

Has anyone found any better trailers for Conan yet? I'm anxious to see something, anything, that will better sell me on the movie.

Sadly, the "smokey" trailer is the only one they've released so far.


To crush your enemies and see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

Arnie's version is awesome. I hope the new guy rocks this line as hard.


Xabulba wrote:
Conan-Top

*Stabs at his eyes with a dull, rusty spork*

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>>New trailer is up.<<

Liberty's Edge

Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
DON'T CLICK ON XABULBA'S LINK. IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF BEERS AND SHOWERS TO GET THAT FREAKY IMAGE OUT OF MY HEAD.

He looks just like Lion-O from the thundercats.

Liberty's Edge

Taliesin Hoyle wrote:
>>New trailer is up.<<

I never doubted.

Liberty's Edge

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Proof of the Lion-O/Carrot Top connection.


Heathansson wrote:
Taliesin Hoyle wrote:
>>New trailer is up.<<

I never doubted.

Behold... and despair. Hmm.

I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt, but in the 2m:15sec trailer Conan was the center of attention for about 30 seconds and in that time he was basically shown doing the same move again and again.

The producers conspicuously did not have him saying much in this advertisement. I really, really hope that dude has the Charisma + Acting Chops to pull this role off.

>Here is some acting.<


Spanky the Leprechaun wrote:

Carrot Top as Conan. Directed by David Lynch.

THAT'S what I'm talking about.

Yes. Just. Yes.

Grand Lodge

Studpuffin wrote:
Proof of the Lion-O/Carrot Top connection.

PROP JOKES, HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!


Madclaw wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
Proof of the Lion-O/Carrot Top connection.
PROP JOKES, HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

I find Carrot Top to be very funny. But on a personal level he unnerves me.

He could definitely be one of Conan's henchmen. In fact, I think Carrot Top would like that.

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Tensor wrote:

Behold... and despair. Hmm.

I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt, but in the 2m:15sec trailer Conan was the center of attention for about 30 seconds and in that time he was basically shown doing the same move again and again.

The producers conspicuously did not have him saying much in this advertisement. I really, really hope that dude has the Charisma + Acting Chops to pull this role off.

>Here is some acting.<

I'm rooting for this, both because I know I'd have had to keep closing Donna's jaw. (Jason Momoa, Ron Perlman, if ever there was a movie made for her fantasies... this was it) And because I like Momoa.

If you can find Stargate Atlantis for rent or on demand or on Hulu or something he plated Ronan. You can judge his acting chops from that, I think.


Watching that new trailer makes me interested in playing a Savage Barbarian with the Spirit Totem Rage-Power chain ...

Also, looks like they're going to actually have Conan as actually Conan, rather than some too-talkative new-age guy or some other abberation.

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I saw a billboard for Conan in my hometown (LA). It looked like it could be the cover of one of the novels, maybe one by Boris Vallejo or some artist like him. It made me want to see the movie, and I previously wasn't that interested in it...I guess having Arnold as my governor kinda turned me off to the whole "Conan" thing. :P


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Just watched the trailer, and my response is a resounding "Meh."

I know Arnold didn't match up with the Conan of the novels, and I'm well aware how beyond his action-movie years he is now, but this Mamoa guy just doesn't do it for me. I grew up on the Conan movies, they are what got me into fantasy gaming in the first place. The first Conan movie wasn't very flashy, I loved the gritty realness of it. This new one looks like a 90 minute CGI special effects orgy with a little bit of story on the side. It's not fair to judge a movie before watching it, but the trailer is a real let-down for me.

I'll wait for the DVD.


Studpuffin wrote:
Proof of the Lion-O/Carrot Top connection.

I smell live action movie. Someone call a producer.

As for Conan, I'm feeling more anticipation now that I've seen the new trailer, not to mention Mamoa himself in Game of Thrones. I'm still not geeking out over it like I am the new Green Lantern movie, but it might be worth a trip to the multiplex.


I met Jason Momoa at a press junket for the new CONAN movie a couple of weeks ago. His attitude was pretty good. When he got the role he sat down and read a whole bunch of the original Howard short stories. He also studiously avoided watching the Arnie movies. He said he wasn't interested in competing with Arnie at all and the best way to do that was to simply not have the basis of comparison. He's also met Arnie, who approved of this approach.

Someone did ask him about the riddle of steel, and rolled his eyes and mentioned he'd been asked that a few times :-)

The problem is that whilst it's true and accurate that the 1982 movie is not really like Conan in the books and short stories, the movie version is the popular image of Conan amongst the general audience. So whilst it's great that they are hewing close to the stories, the general audience may get confused if it's not a proper remake of the 1982 movie. Reminds me of the situation when Kubrick's THE SHINING is nothing like the novel but people don't care because the film's so iconic, and when King produced a version much closer to the book, no-one gave a toss (though the second version was awful and obscure, which didn't help).


Werthead wrote:
Someone did ask him about the riddle of steel, and rolled his eyes and mentioned he'd been asked that a few times :-)

I am bit disappointed Momoa rolled his eyes at the mention of the riddle of steel (probably the 500th and counting.) I would hope he understood its importance to the Conan sagas, and by this time have come up with a 'stock answer' if not a really good answer.

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Tensor wrote:
Werthead wrote:
Someone did ask him about the riddle of steel, and rolled his eyes and mentioned he'd been asked that a few times :-)

I am bit disappointed Momoa rolled his eyes at the mention of the riddle of steel (probably the 500th and counting.) I would hope he understood its importance to the Conan sagas, and by this time have come up with a 'stock answer' if not a really good answer.

Sorry for asking, but what's its importance to the Conan sagas? (i.e. I never read any of them)


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Purple Dragon Knight wrote:
... (i.e. I never read any of them)

Read them, and then come back.

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