So this feat allows you to cloak yourself in an illusion as an extraordinary ability although it doesn't really change your appearance?
I don't think this feat was very well thought out. It would be better if it granted a penalty to gather information and knowledge checks regarding your identity IMO.
I think it is meant to emulate hat down, collar up, looking incognito. Not letting your guns show, that sort of thing. Just an extra layer of mystery to your character, and very iconic, especially if you are expecting an outbreak of violence in a bar.
Think of it as a +10 bonus to Disguise for hiding your identity only. Since it mimics the spell, I would still allow a Will save if someone actually interacts with you. A successful save would mean the person things you are supicious. They would still have to beat the Disguise check to recognise you since the effect of the feat is extraordinary and not an actual illusion.
No Name (Grit)
You don’t need an elaborate disguise to keep your identify
under wraps.
Prerequisites: Grit class feature or Amateur Gunslinger
feat, Bluff 4 ranks.
Benefit: You often rely on surprise and misdirection
in your social dealings. You gain a +2 bonus on Bluff
checks, and you can spend 1 grit point to gain the effects
of the disguise self spell, with a caster level equal to your
gunslinger level. This deed does not actually change your
appearance, but rather allows you to hide your identity in
other ways to the same effect as an extraordinary ability.
Disguise Self
School illusion (glamer); Level alchemist 1, bard 1, inquisitor 1, sorcerer/wizard 1
Casting Time 1 standard action
Components V, S
Range personal
Target you
Duration 10 min./level (D)
You make yourself - including clothing, armor, weapons, and equipment - look different. You can seem 1 foot shorter or taller, thin, fat, or in between. You cannot change your creature type (although you can appear as another subtype). Otherwise, the extent of the apparent change is up to you. You could add or obscure a minor feature or look like an entirely different person or gender.
The spell does not provide the abilities or mannerisms of the chosen form, nor does it alter the perceived tactile (touch) or audible (sound) properties of you or your equipment. If you use this spell to create a disguise, you get a +10 bonus on the Disguise check. A creature that interacts with the glamer gets a Will save to recognize it as an illusion.
So what exactly can you do with this feat if you can't change your appearance seeing that this is the main purpose of the spell? Do targets get a will save to see you when you spend grit on this feat? In that case what ability score is the DC based on? Can people with spells like true seeing see through this ability? Does the disguise self effect still count as an illusion even though it is an extraordinary effect?
I think it is meant to emulate hat down, collar up, looking incognito. Not letting your guns show, that sort of thing. Just an extra layer of mystery to your character, and very iconic, especially if you are expecting an outbreak of violence in a bar.
+1 ... This is not a difficult concept to grasp. There are other spells that are simulated in part but limited in effect, this is no different in concept. The spell beast shape in particular stands out in my mind.
The feat as written is very simple to use. The fluff is not much harder to use. You're not assuming another identity, you're simply concealing your own defining features, making yourself obscure.
Go watch "Fistful of Dollars" or some such.
I think it is meant to emulate hat down, collar up, looking incognito. Not letting your guns show, that sort of thing. Just an extra layer of mystery to your character, and very iconic, especially if you are expecting an outbreak of violence in a bar.+1 ... This is not a difficult concept to grasp. There are other spells that are simulated in part but limited in effect, this is no different in concept. The spell beast shape in particular stands out in my mind.
The feat as written is very simple to use. The fluff is not much harder to use. You're not assuming another identity, you're simply concealing your own defining features, making yourself obscure.
Go watch "Fistful of Dollars" or some such.
I understand the concept and intent but as written I think Disguise self is a bad way to emulate this feature.
I understand the concept and intent but as written I think Disguise self is a bad way to emulate this feature.
Honestly, I agree. Perhaps the feat should allow the gunslinger to make a Bluff check (a prerequisite) to not be recognized if seen. People may remember him, but don't quite connect the face with a name. It also means a guard might see him, but not realize he is who they should be looking out for.
That may be, because, in High Plains Drifter, the 'Preacher' is undead. Alot of people miss that little tid bit. The scar on his neck is from him being hanged, he has returned from the dead for revenge. Essentially he's a revenant, rather than a reverent, lol.