Just really strange.
In my campaign setting, the origins of humans are that they are a hybrid between elves and orcs. Seeing as Humans are comparable geneticly with both races, I thought it would make sense.
Good idea, or just really strange?
I've always felt that humans were the result of elves and dwarves.
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The idea may make some sort of sense genetically, but only if they're subspecies involved. This is why I tell people to never mix genetics and fantasy gaming :)
Dwarf + elf = gnome!
I always thought humans came from gnomes doing it atop their copulation ladders.
I always thought humans came from gnomes doing it atop their copulation ladders.
huzzah!
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In my campaign setting, the origins of humans are that they are a hybrid between elves and orcs. Seeing as Humans are comparable geneticly with both races, I thought it would make sense.
Good idea, or just really strange?
Good idea, and a fun idea to work with. It makes the relationship between the races much more interesting, and offers plenty of possibilties to work with for culture building.
The notion is a fairly popular one to play with as well, along with the inverse idea that elves and orcs split off of humanity.
I long for the good old days when everyone could accept that elves and orcs were insoluble and wouldn't try to force their objections on the game designers.
If a half elf marries a half orc, all their children are mongrel men and women.
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I long for the good old days when everyone could accept that elves and orcs were insoluble and wouldn't try to force their objections on the game designers.
If a half elf marries a half orc, all their children are mongrel men and women.
What's wrong with different people wanting to do things differently?
And who's trying to force anything on the designers?
I see no problem with it. What ever makes sense for your game and players. IIRC the Midnight setting from FFG had Orcs being corrupted Dwarves. It's a non-standard take but it work out well for that setting. I'm personally in favor of going against the "norm", I got some great reaction once from PCs for running a morbidly obese elf NPC, which I'm sure would get me lynched in some corners here.
"You know what, Spock? Everybody's human."
"I find that remark... insulting, Captain."
+1 - Awesome! :P
Creative Ideas are always the best in my book. :)
Makes humans a lot more interesting to play if you think of them like that.
Are you calling me an half-orc.. ?
Humans really would make way more seance
So, in your game, humans get Medium as a favored class? Do they need a Ouija board as a focus component for their spells?
I was in a long running campaign once (not for the full duration) in which there was an ancient secret about the origin of humans. At the climax of the campaign it was revealed that the human race originated from a magical hybrid of dwarves and orks.
Immediately after the GM revealed this great mystery a player said, "So humans are just dorks?"
The DM turned bright red and refused to talk. I believe he may have been a tad upset about all his hard work being summed up that way:)
In Roger Zelazny's MadWand, Trolls, Ogers, Dragons, and Orcs all come from a parrallel world dying from misused magic. The first elves sort of spring from nature. Humans are either created by their gods or evolved from Apes(I think both). Maybe if every attempt at crossing the two races has resulted in a thing that is born undead with an orc's face and elf ears, then people would have stopped trying that. They probably wouldn't even talk about it. :(
Halfling((Elf+Orc)/(Dwarf-Gnome))=Human
Halfling((Elf+Orc)/(Dwarf-Gnome))=Human
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I demand more races be developed in this fashion.
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Damn! FOILed!Halfling((Elf+Orc)/(Dwarf-Gnome))=Human
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I demand more races be developed in this fashion.
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In my campaign setting, the origins of humans are that they are a hybrid between elves and orcs. Seeing as Humans are comparable geneticly with both races, I thought it would make sense.
Good idea, or just really strange?
Sound good to me. +1
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IIRC the Midnight setting from FFG had Orcs being corrupted Dwarves. It's a non-standard take but it work out well for that setting.
In Tolkien's stuff, orcs were corrupted elves. Trolls were corrupted ents. The Black Foe could not create life (none of the Valar could. Only King Ilu could), but he could corrupt it. So he took elves and over untold ages tortured and marred them and made orcs of them.
Dwarves were a created race, made by the Valar Aulë who wanted to copy Ilu as a child copies what he sees his father doing. So he made little people out of stone and moved them around. But they had no life. They only moved when he moved them.
Iluvatar found out, and berated Aulë, and he was dismayed and took his hammer to destroy his wayward creation. But the dwarves showed fear and covered before their creator. Ilu had given them life, as he saw that Aulë meant no disrespect. However, since they were not taken into consideration when creating the world, nature had no love for the dwarves, and they did not love the Firstborn and Secondborn (elves and humans, respectively) and always only loved stone and the precious things that came from them (gold, gems, etc..)
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And in Midnight, humans were humans, but all the other races were descendants of the Elder Fey. They diversified and became the Mountain Fey (dwarves) and Forest Fey (elves) and other races. That meant that humans could not interbreed with any of the other races. The half-breeds were completely non-human.
Orcs were creatures of the Dark God Izrador, and many sages suspected that he made them from dwarves somehow (probably involving corruption and torture and other dark deeds. That was pretty much his schtick). Though they never made such claims aloud within earshot of a dwarf. That was an excellent way of getting masterfully crafted dwarf weapons embedded in vital organs. You just don't imply that the dwarves have anything to do with the hated foes!
There were three half-breed races in Midnight:
Elflings are crossbreeds between jungle elves (which were small even for elves, who weren't very tall in Midnight) and halflings. Weak, frail, but very agile.
Dwarrows were the result of dwarf and gnome minglings. They were somewhere between the gruff nature of the dwarves and the very outgoing manner of the gnomes.
The last crossbreeds were the most pitiful creatures in all creation: Dworgs. Half orc, half dwarf. Since the hatred between the two races is universal, they were invariably the result of orcs raping dwarves. They were the single most impressive race when it comes to physical matters - both strong like the orcs and tough like the dwarves, and probably the only creatures that hated orcs more than the dwarves did. They were miserable creatures, universally outcasts among the dwarves.
These poor bastards could be seen as proof that there must be something to the idea that orcs are corrupted dwarves, since there are no orc-elf, orc-gnome or orc-halfling crossbreeds (and it's unlikely that the orcs only raped dwarves.)
Anyway, the "no half-humans" idea was interesting. It further helped setting humans apart from the other races.
But then again, Midnight was chock-full of awesome.
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If an Orc gets an elf maiden pregnant and it is allowed to come to term, then he comes...
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If you cross a Cat and a Dog, you get a hound of Tindalos.
If an Orc gets an elf maiden pregnant and it is allowed to come to term, then he comes...
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Zalgo
Zalgo made the Mournlands.
Zalgo carries the spell plague.
Zalgo invented 4th edition.Zalgo is chief marketing manager of wotc.
Zalgo added addictive substances to the paper of M:TG cards and DDM figures
Zalgo's favourite drink is the blood of nations.
Zalgo knows all dead baby jokes and will whisper them into the ears of expecting mothers.
Zalgo turns wine to water
Zalgo once murdered everyone he knew, starting with himself
Zalgo makes you strap running chainsaws to your limbs and jump from the balcony of the local cinema. During the Grand Matinee Showing of Bambi.
Zalgo is consultant to social networks about their privacy settings.
Zalgo invented spam. Both concepts.
Zalgo convinced the Mayan gods that everything is better with human mass sacrifice.
Zalgo inserts random spelling errors into holy texts to foment religious wars.
+11
At one point, I was creating a campaign in which the standard campaign races had "evil" counterparts...
For example, Hobgoblins were twisted Humans, Orcs were twisted Elves, Goblins/Dwarves, etc, etc, ad nauseum...
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Don't be silly - elves are merely humans who wandered into the fey world at the dawn of time, evolving and being shaped by it, only to escape when the Age of Myth ended at Moonfall, when the shadow, fey, and mortal lands were separated into three worlds tied together. And orcs were human tribes that were altered by The Lady Steel when She chose to make her home in the scarred wastelands to the west, before She died at the end of the Age of Strife.
This "humans are the young race" is merely elven propaganda, as has been shown by the biological studies of the Gnomish Republic. Humans were amongst the first mortal races, alongside the dwarves and halflings! It's science! You can't argue with science!
In my campaign setting, the origins of humans are that they are a hybrid between elves and orcs. Seeing as Humans are comparable geneticly with both races, I thought it would make sense.
Good idea, or just really strange?
I figure you would get something more like this.
The Cleaves was built by an ancient race of humanoids who were trying to escape barbarians. Here's what I came up with.
75. The Fen Cryptex
It only has 3 rows of letters, which comprise the fen alphabet. If you translate the letters and line up fen, it opens. Inside is a folded up portrait of a Fen.
Hook: A fen has survived by making himself into a prattling portrait. He looks like a human with Dwarf muscles, Elf ears, and a face that is somewhere between an Orc and a Goblin. He hates those who couldn't have opened the puzzle, for they are like barbarians. He does know that the font has 2 bands, 3 long metal pieces, and six short rods that cross on each side. The Fen's intention was the user should become a good deity of ancient lore. A humongous Aboleth had slain their original deity. The user of the artifact can take over any portfolio currently not occupied.