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I was disappointed. For "Basic" versions, they should have been further broken down to:
Original D&D - The original game, consisting of three little books in a brown box. Later supplemented with four more books.
Holmes D&D - The 32 page blue book that simplified the game, levels 1-3. Really it was more of a gateway to AD&D then a full system on it's own.
B/X D&D - A couple of boxed sets, the first revised Holmes' version, and the second added level 4-14.
BECMI/RC D&D - Technically two different editions, but it was really more of a cleaning up than any substantial changes. Goes from level 1 all the way up to level 36, and then on to immortality.
I was disappointed. For "Basic" versions, they should have been further broken down to:
Original D&D - The original game, consisting of three little books in a brown box. Later supplemented with four more books.
Holmes D&D - The 32 page blue book that simplified the game, levels 1-3. Really it was more of a gateway to AD&D then a full system on it's own.
B/X D&D - A couple of boxed sets, the first revised Holmes' version, and the second added level 4-14.
BECMI/RC D&D - Technically two different editions, but it was really more of a cleaning up than any substantial changes. Goes from level 1 all the way up to level 36, and then on to immortality.
It was a generic poll, I really don't see any reason why he'd break "Basic" down into 4 different versions, since he also kept 3.0/3.5 as the same question. C'mon, admit it, you're just flexing your geek-cred card here.
Please. Why waste time on your thin crust crap? I'm talking STEAKS. Chicago's steakhouses put yours to shame, no doubt about it.Please tell you aren't bringing what you laughably call pizza into this fight. I'm from Brooklyn.That said, we kick your city's culinary ass.Wrong. I'm from Chicago.
I've heard a lot about Chicago steakhouses actually, I've been interested in going to see if the hype was to be believed.
And I was going to say the same about the glob of half-cooked dough you Chicagoans refer to as "deep dish" pizza.
That said, we kick your city's culinary ass.http://www.5280.com
Boulder/ Denver metro here
No, you don't.
You beat us in Broadway musicals for sure.
Colorado?
I miss boiled crawfish, and king cake, and Bozo's chicken and andouille sausage gumbo, and Barecca's roast duck, and oysters, and alligator jerky, and....
...DAMN IT! NOW I"M HUNGRY AGAIN!!!
I would gladly give any one of these a try.
I'm reading the article now. It's telling that he refers to Atari and Xbox360 - both the most inferior consoles of their time.
(Edition War, Fast Food War, Console War - Trifecta!!! ;-))
Also, he seems not to heard of Kinect, which (going off pictures on the internet) doesn't have a controller at all.
Colorado? ** spoiler omitted ** I'm sure your cooking is palatable, but please, when you are ready to leave the children's table behind and eat with the adults, give the 212 a call.
YEP its tough to find foodies in colorado what with aspen, the sundance film festival, vail and all YEP totally devoid of quality YEP
...wait...
Not to say we arent missing some cuisine options (low country, cajun, and soul food spring to mind).
Colorado? ** spoiler omitted ** I'm sure your cooking is palatable, but please, when you are ready to leave the children's table behind and eat with the adults, give the 212 a call.YEP its tough to find foodies in colorado what with aspen, the sundance film festival, vail and all YEP totally devoid of quality YEP
...wait...
Not to say we arent missing some cuisine options (low country, cajun, and soul food spring to mind).
You do realize that despite our bickering, we need to open up the first D&D themed Soul-Food restaurant in Colorado.
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You do realize that despite our bickering, we need to open up the first D&D themed Soul-Food restaurant in Colorado.Colorado? ** spoiler omitted ** I'm sure your cooking is palatable, but please, when you are ready to leave the children's table behind and eat with the adults, give the 212 a call.YEP its tough to find foodies in colorado what with aspen, the sundance film festival, vail and all YEP totally devoid of quality YEP
...wait...
Not to say we arent missing some cuisine options (low country, cajun, and soul food spring to mind).
THIS!
You do realize that despite our bickering, we need to open up the first D&D themed Soul-Food restaurant in Colorado.
That is so damned win I can't stand it. as long as we dont try and compete with Casa Bonita for the "extreme decor challenge".
I hope you and Aberzombie know its all in fun. I know that the big apple and the big easy have some mighty fine epicurian contributions.
Well, the FREE MARKET has spoken. We need a D&D themed soul food restaurant chain. (look at me, putting Free Market in caps, LOL!).
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Mike,
Your intentions are great, and we all know that Wizards needs to make money, but ask Wizards to stop treating their old customers like drek before calling for unity?
You do realize that despite our bickering, we need to open up the first D&D themed Soul-Food restaurant in Colorado.That is so damned win I can't stand it. as long as we dont try and compete with Casa Bonita for the "extreme decor challenge".
I hope you and Aberzombie know its all in fun. I know that the big apple and the big easy have some mighty fine epicurian contributions.
Oh, of course!! You should hear what happened once at the other game I was in where we had a near brawl over which coast had better Chinese food/people. I will concede that the West Coast makes some Chinese food that we just dont' see, even in Brooklyn and Queens, but that's about it!
Who knew that me mentioning White Castles would cause a side discussion about food places.
Me.
Who knew that me mentioning White Castles would cause a side discussion about food places.
It's a stereotype, but you know how much we gamers love to eat.
Who knew that me mentioning White Castles would cause a side discussion about food places.It's a stereotype, but you know how much we humans love to eat.
FTFY
Who knew that me mentioning White Castles would cause a side discussion about food places.
If you only knew what evil was contained in those sliders. Mom worked in Human Resources for 15 years and my sister's father is still at corporate. Chuck Norris even raises an eyebrow.
As much as I love the food here in the great state of Texas, with our wonderful barbecue and actual Mexican food(and Tex-Mex too), I do have to acknowledge that Chicago steaks are very fine eating, and both Chicago and Brooklyn have good pizza.
Who knew that me mentioning White Castles would cause a side discussion about food places.If you only knew what evil was contained in those sliders. Mom worked in Human Resources for 15 years and my sister's father is still at corporate. Chuck Norris even raises an eyebrow.
Is it still technically not a food? Or can they just not call it a burger because it doesn't contain actual meat in it? I know there was some legal mumbo-jumbo involved.
So, what you're saying is, people should just eat the chicken they like, and not worry what kind of chicken other people eat, as long as they enjoy it?Begun, the chicken-edition wars have.
A billion times more interesting than the circular RPG edition war that nobody was going to give an inch on...
The same tired arguments by the same people over and over again.... blah blah blah blady blah
- Must defend this
- must defend that
- everything you are saying is so wrong
- I will use big words like straw man and logical fallacy to make me sound good...
- My side is perfect and can do no wrong
- my side are the cool rebel alliance and your like darth stupid
- you spelled your wrong you must be stupid and all your arguments are invalid because of your imperfect use of grammar....
- I am scoring points and winning the intarwebz and proving how cool I am because I nailed some n00b.
- No I am totally 1337 and your Suxxors I totally pwned you n00b
- You spelled your wrong again n00b
- 19th fraken million edition rules
- no 17th million edition doesblah blah blah..... Time that could have been spent constructively sucked away...
+100000000000000 Kagillion
As far as this most recent poll, I think it's interesting that he is generalizing as much as he has.
I mean, combat has gotten more complex. Spell descriptions have become more verbose. Some of those things I consider bad... But skills have gotten more complex but sometimes easier.
Anyway, chicken. I'm hungry!
Is it still technically not a food? Or can they just not call it a burger because it doesn't contain actual meat in it? I know there was some legal mumbo-jumbo involved.Who knew that me mentioning White Castles would cause a side discussion about food places.If you only knew what evil was contained in those sliders. Mom worked in Human Resources for 15 years and my sister's father is still at corporate. Chuck Norris even raises an eyebrow.
I'm not sure that any of this is accurate. White Castle hamburgers are called sliders because of their relatively small size, but they are still hamburgers. They are definitely food, and they are made from 100% USDA approved beef.
And this is coming from a native Californian In-N-Out stalwart. ;p
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Is it still technically not a food? Or can they just not call it a burger because it doesn't contain actual meat in it? I know there was some legal mumbo-jumbo involved.Who knew that me mentioning White Castles would cause a side discussion about food places.If you only knew what evil was contained in those sliders. Mom worked in Human Resources for 15 years and my sister's father is still at corporate. Chuck Norris even raises an eyebrow.I'm not sure that any of this is accurate. White Castle hamburgers are called sliders because of their relatively small size, but they are still hamburgers. They are definitely food, and they are made from 100% USDA approved beef.
And this is coming from a native Californian In-N-Out stalwart. ;p
It's probably more meat than Taco Bell... ZING!
I thought they were called sliders because they 'slide' right through you.
You were ninjaed by my wife irl.
Is it still technically not a food? Or can they just not call it a burger because it doesn't contain actual meat in it? I know there was some legal mumbo-jumbo involved.Who knew that me mentioning White Castles would cause a side discussion about food places.If you only knew what evil was contained in those sliders. Mom worked in Human Resources for 15 years and my sister's father is still at corporate. Chuck Norris even raises an eyebrow.
The secret will be buried deeper than the Colonel's recipe & Coca-Cola's formulation in the deepest sanctum under the catacombs of the Vatican. Not even Dan Brown will be able to unveil it.
I thought Iowa had another market cornered? Ha ha ha ha ha ha.......get it?
What? With you bolding parts, making it easier?
No, don't get it, what are you talking about?
;-P
Also, he seems not to heard of Kinect, which (going off pictures on the internet) doesn't have a controller at all.I'm reading the article now. It's telling that he refers to Atari and Xbox360 - both the most inferior consoles of their time.
(Edition War, Fast Food War, Console War - Trifecta!!! ;-))
Yeah. No, it doesn't, apparently. You're your own controller.
Make sure people know you're playing that. Because without that controller to show everyone you're playing a game, you look like you're having a fit - or fail spectacularly at dancing... :D
You do realize that despite our bickering, we need to open up the first D&D themed Soul-Food restaurant in Colorado.
You mean Pathfinder-themed, yes?
It's probably more meat than Taco Bell... ZING!
Actually, only about 12% more, assuming White Castle doesn't add anything to their patties.
It's probably more meat than Taco Bell... ZING!Actually, only about 12% more, assuming White Castle doesn't add anything to their patties.
Onions are involved. But I think I might bet on the taco having more meat in it than the slider's saltine-size patties.
I think the D&D themed restaurant should be, well . . . THEMED! Hehehe. That would be so cool.
Oh, and it also should serve pizza.
I think the D&D themed restaurant should be, well . . . THEMED! Hehehe. That would be so cool.
Oh, and it also should serve pizza.
If someone made a fantasy gaming pub with plenty of ale on tap, bar lighting, live music, appropriate decor, and a location within an average night out's driving distance, I'd spend three nights a week there.
Pizza < stews
Let's all call it The Guildhall!
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As for Book of Nine Swords, overall I like it - with a few notable exceptions for things that were so broken that I'm sorry I ever allowed them in my campaign - for example, take Iron Heart Surge. Really, take it out back and shoot it in the head. I now have a druid (who's already immune to poison and everything else in the universe), who can wild shape into virtually anything, and on the rare occasions where someone does get an effect off on her, it never lasts more than one round before she Iron Heart Surges it away. To make it at least sane I made one of my few house rulings and overruled the WoTC ruling that it ended the effect and instead ruled that it ended the effect's effect on the character. Even so, it's one of those "they really should have thought about this more" sort of things.
Ah, Iron Heart Surge, or as we joked in the one game I allowed that book "With a roar of effort I drag the sun back over the horizon."
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General: No recharge mechanic. You use up all of your readied maneuvers in an encounter, that's it, you wait until next encounter. This one was suggested by Rich Baker himself, stating that the recharge mechanic in retrospect seems like a clunky add on, and it undermines resource management.
Crusaders: Your readied maneuvers are no different than anyone else's. No "two maneuvers randomly chosen" to start. Again, this one was suggested by Rich Baker, who said that this was the "automatic recharge" mechanic for the crusader, and it turned out to make the class more complicated than it needs to be.
Warblade: Hit dice move back down to d10. These guys are suppose to be technique fighters, and while they are front line warriors, there is no need for them to be the damage sponges that barbarians and knights are, because its not really their purpose.
Cut out Weapon Aptitude as an ability. Not only does this not make much sense, but it intentionally steals the fighters only real exclusive ability, and then makes it better. If Warblades are suppose to replace fighters in your campaign, fine, but if they both exist, let the fighter have his moment in the sun and cut this out of the Warblade.
Cut out Weapon Aptitude as an ability.
This is the most laughably bad idea.
Give Weapon Aptitude to more classes, is the answer.
even the deisgners said it did not work.
Source?
@Scott Betts and Prof.: Can't currently find the old 4th ed deisgners blogs where it said it. I don't even know if they still exist.