Oh I imagine that more flags moves it up in the queue to be reviewed. But whether it is in violation or not, that still seems to be Paizo's call.My understanding of the flagging system is that the Paizo peeps make the call on whether something is in violation of the boards' rules. It makes no difference on the number of people who flag it...Paizo staff have noted that they pay close attention to threads and posts that have been flagged multiple times.
Remember the question was, "Why are my posts getting deleted, but these others that are more insulting are not?" Not just, "Why are my posts getting deleted."
Why isn't Charlie Sheen in this thread?
There's definitely not enough winning here. Duh.
I'm in the clicque, and I get all sorta s*%! deleted. I'm actually more interesting than you three whingers combined, and I still get deleted. So don't even try that.
Dogpiling happens on these boards for many reasons. Acting poorly is one of them, but so is disagreeing with the common consensus of the forum community.
Yup.
And pretending the moderation is consistent or even-handed is just that: Pretending. Sad but true.
Dogpiling happens on these boards for many reasons. Acting poorly is one of them, but so is disagreeing with the common consensus of the forum community.
I'm gonna float a wild theory that maybe -- just maybe -- it mostly has to do with the content of a post/position and how it is presented.
If there is any consensus on this board, it would only seem to be that we are all as passionate in our opinions as we are about our gaming.
I see, so the secret to not being deleted is to call others a douche.
Apparently.
Dogpiling happens on these boards for many reasons. Acting poorly is one of them, but so is disagreeing with the common consensus of the forum community.I'm gonna float a wild theory that maybe -- just maybe -- it mostly has to do with the content of a post/position and how it is presented.
Sometimes. Sometimes not so much. I'm going to make a concrete observation that I've seen both.
Oh I imagine that more flags moves it up in the queue to be reviewed. But whether it is in violation or not, that still seems to be Paizo's call.Remember the question was, "Why are my posts getting deleted, but these others that are more insulting are not?" Not just, "Why are my posts getting deleted."
I remember the question. Perhaps -- again, just a wild theory -- that the posts that you (and often I) consider offensive, do not meet the criteria for removal.
But again, if someone is feeling singled out for post removal, I don't see how I or anyone can convince them otherwise.
That's pretty disturbing, if true. I've long seen these forums as unhealthily insular, but this is well beyond what I thought was the case.
I see all forums as unhealthy insular. I really have not been on one that is not. There is a varying degree...I think this board is not that bad...I have seen worse
The whole thing w/ pres men accusation...I have seen it on the accusation a million times over....but really only seen it once and that was over on the WotC boards.
ProfessorCirno has a problem in that way he writes(and to a certain extent you also share this)... just really belittling. I don't think either you does this on purpose but it is there. I have a friend who as the same problem really. It is not really what you guys are argueing about...it is how you guys argue.
I'm in the clicque, and I get all sorta s!@! deleted. I'm actually more interesting than you three whingers combined, and I still get deleted. So don't even try that.
Wait, is it a clique or a secret club? Or is the secret club different from the clique? I was hoping we'd get jackets and do that thing were we go down the street snapping our fingers.
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I'm pretty sure I've had more posts deleted than most other posters combined. If there's a secret conspiracy to protect certain posters, I'm clearly not under its protection.
But, if you whine enough, I'm sure eventually people will realize the error of their ways and start treating your douchy posts with the respect they so richly deserve.
Also, I didn't call anyone a douche (though I won't stop anyone from drawing that conclusion about themselves if that's on their conscience), but I'm sure the post will eventually get deleted given the quantity and quality of butthurt it appears to have generated.
I remember the question. Perhaps -- again, just a wild theory -- that the posts that you (and often I) consider offensive, do not meet the criteria for removal.
Among the forum rules (of which there are precious few), defaming, abusing, stalking, harassing or threatening others is prohibited. So is being a jerk. Is being called a douche and mocked by sockpuppets within the realm of not-a-jerk behavior?
Okay...which one of these gowks are we gonna throw in the Wicker Man?
That's pretty disturbing, if true. I've long seen these forums as unhealthily insular, but this is well beyond what I thought was the case.I see all forums as unhealthy insular. I really have not been on one that is not. There is a varying degree...I think this board is not that bad...I have seen worse
The whole thing w/ pres men accusation...I have seen it on the accusation a million times over....but really only seen it once and that was over on the WotC boards.
ProfessorCirno has a problem in that way he writes(and to a certain extent you also share this)... just really belittling. I don't think either you does this on purpose but it is there. I have a friend who as the same problem really. It is not really what you guys are argueing about...it is how you guys argue.
Yes, the Paizo forums. Where civil arguments are seen as belittling when they highlight blatant silliness, and calling someone a douche and engaging in outright mockery is an appropriate response that the community defends rather than censures. Welcome to Bizarro World.
I'm pretty sure I've had more posts deleted than most other posters combined. If there's a secret conspiracy to protect certain posters, I'm clearly not under its protection.
But, if you whine enough, I'm sure eventually people will realize the error of their ways and start treating your douchy posts with the respect they so richly deserve.
Also, I didn't call anyone a douche (though I won't stop anyone from drawing that conclusion about themselves if that's on their conscience), but I'm sure the post will eventually get deleted given the quantity and quality of butthurt it appears to have generated.
I flagged this post because you were obviously insulting me.
all but completely impossible to have truly imaginative game play due to overly defined rules.
Huh. I guess all those rad 3rd Edition campaigns I played in weren't truly imaginative. Who woulda thought?
I remember the question. Perhaps -- again, just a wild theory -- that the posts that you (and often I) consider offensive, do not meet the criteria for removal.Among the forum rules (of which there are precious few), defaming, abusing, stalking, harassing or threatening others is prohibited. So is being a jerk. Is being called a douche and mocked by sockpuppets within the realm of not-a-jerk behavior?
Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean those posts won't be ripped out too. The Paizo peeps all have primary job functions besides keeping us civil, so give them a few moments or hours.
Assuming Ross doesn't nuke this entire thread from orbit, I imagine many more posts will be gone by morning (Seattle time).
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I flagged this post because you were obviously insulting me.I'm pretty sure I've had more posts deleted than most other posters combined. If there's a secret conspiracy to protect certain posters, I'm clearly not under its protection.
But, if you whine enough, I'm sure eventually people will realize the error of their ways and start treating your douchy posts with the respect they so richly deserve.
Also, I didn't call anyone a douche (though I won't stop anyone from drawing that conclusion about themselves if that's on their conscience), but I'm sure the post will eventually get deleted given the quantity and quality of butthurt it appears to have generated.
I flagged your mom because she was obviously insulting me.
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There is a ton of weak lameness going on in this thread. I can read the blocked posts, and most of them are pretty worthless. Ironically, Cirno's was the least pointless, but it triggered Ross's moderator finger.
I personally think the oWoD and nWoD issue is rather interesting, and the rest of this meta bickering is utterly pointless. Consequently, I'm going to close the thread entirely.
Please feel free to start a new topic on Mike's column or White Wolf/Ryan Dancey or whatever, but please stop picking on each other.