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I've been in favor of an "amicable divorce" as a solution to the increasingly-hostile disagreements between states in the US for some time.
Give a few years (and maybe some financial aid) for families to relocate to the states that jive with their personal positions, then go our separate ways.
But that's admittedly unrealistic for a whole host of reasons and especially ignores the fact that it's a certain particular set of states that provide all the funds and a certain other particular set of states that receive all of it.
One of my fun thought/discussion topics is, "What would the world be like now if Lincoln had allowed the Confederacy to secede peacefully?"
There's a whole realm of historical fiction that could be written there. I see quite a few thought articles on it, but no books. Maybe an untapped inspiration for someone?

captain yesterday |
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Orthos wrote:I've been in favor of an "amicable divorce" as a solution to the increasingly-hostile disagreements between states in the US for some time.
Give a few years (and maybe some financial aid) for families to relocate to the states that jive with their personal positions, then go our separate ways.
But that's admittedly unrealistic for a whole host of reasons and especially ignores the fact that it's a certain particular set of states that provide all the funds and a certain other particular set of states that receive all of it.
One of my fun thought/discussion topics is, "What would the world be like now if Lincoln had allowed the Confederacy to secede peacefully?"
There's a whole realm of historical fiction that could be written there. I see quite a few thought articles on it, but no books. Maybe an untapped inspiration for someone?
I recommend Cyberpunk Red, if only for the setting (which is also the setting for Cyberpunk 2077).

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NobodysHome wrote:I recommend Cyberpunk Red, if only for the setting (which is also the setting for Cyberpunk 2077).Orthos wrote:I've been in favor of an "amicable divorce" as a solution to the increasingly-hostile disagreements between states in the US for some time.
Give a few years (and maybe some financial aid) for families to relocate to the states that jive with their personal positions, then go our separate ways.
But that's admittedly unrealistic for a whole host of reasons and especially ignores the fact that it's a certain particular set of states that provide all the funds and a certain other particular set of states that receive all of it.
One of my fun thought/discussion topics is, "What would the world be like now if Lincoln had allowed the Confederacy to secede peacefully?"
There's a whole realm of historical fiction that could be written there. I see quite a few thought articles on it, but no books. Maybe an untapped inspiration for someone?
Thanks!
Yeah, most of the thought articles all follow the bizarre thinking that, due to worldwide anti-slavery sentiment, the Confederacy would have suffered an economic collapse before the turn of the century. Which ignores the entirety of human history and worldwide trade policies of, "As long as we're not doing it, what the heck do we care about how they treat the people in their country?"
(I looked it up and there were -0- cotton embargoes prior to the Civil War, which says about all you need to know on the topic.)

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Actually, it would have. That was about the time Britain was Britaining over in India, so they could get cotton more cheaply. Lock the British Empire into only buying Indian cotton, and the South loses a huge cash influx. No morals involved, just pure economics. No embargo, just shopping "local." So the thinking isn't that bizarre; you're just a good person assuming that the people involved were also thinking altruistically.

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Actually, it would have. That was about the time Britain was Britaining over in India, so they could get cotton more cheaply. Lock the British Empire into only buying Indian cotton, and the South loses a huge cash influx. No morals involved, just pure economics. No embargo, just shopping "local." So the thinking isn't that bizarre; you're just a good person assuming that the people involved were also thinking altruistically.
There was a good deal of support for the Confederacy amongst the British ruling class *cough*munich*cough*, at least partially due to romantic idealisation of what they thought was a noble pre-industrial aristocratic society, partially because they thought a weaker US would be better for the Empire, and I suspect also that they thought the Confederacy might end up being an economic colony of the UK, effectively, but there was also a very powerful current of anti-slavery sentiment which drove a lot of foreign policy at the time (even if it was just a thin cover for less altruistic purposes), and it shouldn't be discounted. The factors Scint mentioned were also significant

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captain yesterday wrote:NobodysHome wrote:I recommend Cyberpunk Red, if only for the setting (which is also the setting for Cyberpunk 2077).Orthos wrote:I've been in favor of an "amicable divorce" as a solution to the increasingly-hostile disagreements between states in the US for some time.
Give a few years (and maybe some financial aid) for families to relocate to the states that jive with their personal positions, then go our separate ways.
But that's admittedly unrealistic for a whole host of reasons and especially ignores the fact that it's a certain particular set of states that provide all the funds and a certain other particular set of states that receive all of it.
One of my fun thought/discussion topics is, "What would the world be like now if Lincoln had allowed the Confederacy to secede peacefully?"
There's a whole realm of historical fiction that could be written there. I see quite a few thought articles on it, but no books. Maybe an untapped inspiration for someone?
Thanks!
Yeah, most of the thought articles all follow the bizarre thinking that, due to worldwide anti-slavery sentiment, the Confederacy would have suffered an economic collapse before the turn of the century. Which ignores the entirety of human history and worldwide trade policies of, "As long as we're not doing it, what the heck do we care about how they treat the people in their country?"
(I looked it up and there were -0- cotton embargoes prior to the Civil War, which says about all you need to know on the topic.)
Well to be clear I didn't mean to infer anything regarding the civil war or anything I was just recommending a post apocalyptic "future" setting where states start to secede from the US.

Freehold DM |

I've been in favor of an "amicable divorce" as a solution to the increasingly-hostile disagreements between states in the US for some time.
Give a few years (and maybe some financial aid) for families to relocate to the states that jive with their personal positions, then go our separate ways.
But that's admittedly unrealistic for a whole host of reasons and especially ignores the fact that it's a certain particular set of states that provide all the funds and a certain other particular set of states that receive all of it.
Oh hell no. We fought a war about this already once, we don't need to again.

Drejk |

Meh.
Invisible Sun bundle is tempting, but its deeply unlikely I could get a group for that kind of weirdness.
If it wouldn't be paid with the same small budget that feeds my gaming addiction hobby I'd probably go for it, but as it is now, it would mean at least one month more before I get Shadow of The Erdtree...

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Invisible Sun bundle is tempting, but its deeply unlikely I could get a group for that kind of weirdness.
Yeah, that's a chronic problem for me as well.
The appeal of the spectrally macabre is generally narrow because it demands from the reader a certain degree of imagination and a capacity for detachment from every-day life. Relatively few are free enough from the spell of the daily routine to respond to rappings from outside, and tales of ordinary feelings and events, or of common sentimental distortions of such feelings and events, will always take first place in the taste of the majority; rightly, perhaps, since of course these ordinary matters make up the greater part of the human experience.

gran rey de los mono |
I got into the elevator on the first floor and pressed 5. The doors closed and the elevator went up to floor 4, then down a floor to 3, then 2, before it finally went back up and stopped on the 5th floor. Confused, I walked out and it was only then that I noticed the sign on the door:
“Elevator out of order.”

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Echoing Scint's feelings here. Slept like s+&@ last night as a result, so called out from work today and slept in until almost 11, then have spent the rest of the day with the puppy. Ran some errands, took her to a local dog-friendly restaurant for lunch, got her new tags on the last day they're free, and took a long walk around the local park.

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The Gregorian calendar explained:
January - Greg
February - Ian
March - Greg
April - Ian
May - Greg
June - Ian
July - Greg
August - Ian
September - Greg
October - Ian
November - Greg
December - Ian
Shouldn’t be more like this?
January - Gre
February - Gor
March - Ian
April - Gre
May - Gor
June - Ian
July - Gre
August - Gor
September - Ian
October - Gre
November - Gor
December - Ian

Freehold DM |

Struggling today. Round 3 interview is scheduled tonight, and I'm optimistic. But we can't take Sophie with us. We'll need to find her a new home, and it's killing me to think about the betrayal she's going to feel.
I hate this so much.
I am so very sorry. I would have thought you could take her with you.

Drejk |
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Fantasy Monster: Ghost-Woe Demon
A ghost-tormenting demon.
It's not like I am posting a lot of ghost NPCs in the first place...