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A partial eclipse must have been more confusing to the ancients than a total one.

"Why's it dark and getting cold? Oh something is blotting out the sun"

"Whys it a little dark and getting cold.... " looks at the sun and sees mo difference "weeeiiirrrd"


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BigNorseWolf wrote:

A partial eclipse must have been more confusing to the ancients than a total one.

"Why's it dark and getting cold? Oh something is blotting out the sun"

*Big Norse Wolf is devouring the Sun!*

Quote:
"Whys it a little dark and getting cold.... " looks at the sun and sees mo difference "weeeiiirrrd"

*Big Norse Wolf is nibbling on the Sun?*


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I suppose this may be considered political by some, so

A brief tirade:
As a Lawful individual, one of my greatest peeves is laws or policies that negatively impact everyone due to the misbehavior of a small number of individuals. And I'm not talking mask or vaccine mandates where there is a clear benefit in requiring everyone to comply. I'm talking idiocy like being required to take your shoes off to get on an airplane.

In this case, Impus Minor just had a couple of wisdom teeth removed, and the prescribed painkiller is Percocet, an opioid.

And holy c*** good luck trying to find a place that will fill that prescription! The smaller pharmacies all have signs up: "We no longer carry opioids of any sort." OK. I can understand that. But try calling one of the bigger places before you go over there. "I have a Percocet prescription."
"I'm not allowed to talk about that with you, sir."
"But you haven't even heard my question."
"No. We can't discuss it. Goodbye."

So I am left having to drive from large pharmacy to large pharmacy, present the prescription, and find out whether or not they'll fill it. (And most places won't because it's a physical copy, even though the oral surgeon had to switch to physical copies because their e-prescriptions kept getting hacked and forged.) A massive pain in the rear. Because somehow someone somewhere made it policy that even discussing any opioid over the phone is forbidden.

And I won't even get into the tirade about GothBard being allergic to Vicodin so she has to get codeine, but of course as soon as she tells anyone that they immediately suspect her so she can't get anything. (Yes, the last time she had major surgery she had to recover with nothing stronger than ibuprofen because the only thing they would prescribe was Vicodin and they wouldn't believe her claims of an allergy.)

EDIT: And the thing that really peeves me is that they already have all the systems they need in place for illegal drugs: If you try to buy pseudoephedrine, you have to present a Real ID, which they scan into the system that tracks how much you buy, and if you try to buy too much you get an interview with the DEA. So, if you're so concerned about opioids why not implement the same exact system?


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Spoiler:
. Because somehow someone somewhere made it policy that even discussing any opioid over the phone is forbidden.

There is a shortage of those drugs and pharmacies willing to fill them. On a good day, people will run them out before they can fill the scripts of their regular customers. Or come in, there's one of 800 problems with the script, and people get kinda ticked when you tell them no you need to go home screaming in pain because of a clerical error.

On a bad day People in a lot of pain or looking to make a lot of money off of people in a lot of pain keep robbing stores of their stocks.

So stores that carry those do NOT want to advertise that fact.


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BigNorseWolf wrote:
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Interesting. Thank you. I knew most of the factors. I did not know about the shortage.


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However, I'm also going to publicly give credit where credit is due and demonstrate how a well-trained professional can massively mitigate the issues. I didn't even know I'd been scanned until I got home. This was classic:

NobodysHome: Hi, I need to fill this prescription for my son.
Clerk: OK. (Takes paperwork and, most importantly, holds it in such a way that I can't see it.) And his birth date is (gives correct month and day, but the wrong year)?
NH: Almost. (Corrects year)
Clerk: Oh, right. My mistake. And I see he fell and broke his arm?
NH: No, he just had his wisdom teeth out.
Clerk: Oh, right. OK. Well, your prescription is filed. You can pick it up in about an hour.

I love how carefully she took away the paperwork, then carefully fed me incorrect information in a casual manner, so I just figured she was having a busy day. But then I realized that she'd made me verify every bit of information on the prescription after taking it away from me.

It was really clever, and it would be wonderful if we could train all clerks that well.


Spoiler:
You will also never go broke underestimating what people will do for those two drugs. Or what will happen to those who get them in the hands of those who shouldn't have them, rightly or wrongly. Blame automatic minimum sentences, ESPECIALLY in your state.


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Spoiler:
bad policy generated for humanitarian reasons. it's unsurprising that it would become so frustrating.

it's been almost 30 years since i had my wisdom teeth removed, and i don't recall what was prescribed for the pain. there's a serious remove here, for me . . .

. . . but the part that irks me the most in this thought experiment is:

. . . being treated like an attempted criminal from the jump in every single interaction with the very people who make their living by providing the service you are enlisting.

i'll stop now before i get even more inflammatory; besides, it's time for me to go to work.

good night, FaWtLies.


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more depressing than political but a data point....:

On two percocets a day or the equivalent, I can kind of live. I can go to the gym to keep the weight off, drive, do some yard work, sit up for four hours and enjoy a D&D session.

On any alternative treatments I can lie on the floor hating life and scream when I walk to the bathroom. Which is as far as I'm getting on a good day. Not the best for weight or bloodpressure.

I've had my hand in a wolfs mouth. I've had hot blacktop poured on my leg. I pet a wild porcupine and it was absolutely worth it.

But after a certain level of pain body parts stop responding to your commands to move.


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BigNorseWolf wrote:
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Sorry to hear that. But it does make me political: What is the Greater Good? Allowing those who need pain medication to receive it rather than living in agony, or blocking everyone from getting pain medication to avoid abuse and/or addiction?

I know which camp I'm in.

But yes, whether or not we all seem to agree on something doesn't mean it's not political, so I'll drop it now.


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NobodysHome wrote:
BigNorseWolf wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

Sorry to hear that. But it does make me political: What is the Greater Good? Allowing those who need pain medication to receive it rather than living in agony, or blocking everyone from getting pain medication to avoid abuse and/or addiction?

I know which camp I'm in.

But yes, whether or not we all seem to agree on something doesn't mean it's not political, so I'll drop it now.

Everyone deserves medication for whatever they are dealing with, especially if it's crippling pain(physical or emotional).

Addiction and abuse is the line, especially where the companies that made the medication either cooked books or withheld information/lied by omission with respect to said medications side effects or true effect over longitudinal time is concerned.


so, on my way home this morning, i'm scrolling through my YouTube feed, and . . .

this one is mostly for NH, 'cause relevant:
you might not pay any attention at all to Russell Brand (and i usually don't, if only because most of his thumbnails make him look like an idiot mouth-breather), but there's a CDC study/analysis about post-CoViD vaxx myocarditis. and after a FOIA filing, the 148-page study was released. with every. single. word. REDACTED. across all 148 pages. no articles, pronouns, conjunctions, or commas survived. the WHOLE THING is so damning that they can't release the info? or are they just trolling the journalists and the public "because they can"??!! i immediately thought of you, and the Impus.

i don't have the words, but the New York Post did:
a 14-year-old Wyoming man died after being stabbed yesterday. he was called by his girlfriend while she was at the mall with a friend, saying they were being followed/harassed by two other teens. he Showed Up. he tried to get the young ladies away from the situation. he's dead now, and at least in part because he called the two perps "freaks".

and, yes -- i called him a "man". he earned it.

not my kids. not my problem(s).

but WHATTHEACTUALF@&%??!!


Syrus Terrigan wrote:

so, on my way home this morning, i'm scrolling through my YouTube feed, and . . .

** spoiler omitted **

** spoiler omitted **

not my kids. not my problem(s).

but WHATTHEACTUALF!&%??!!

As, to the first one, as usual it's already been debunked. But I appreciate the heads-up. In my view,

Opinion:
the rate of myocarditis was significantly higher than the 0.047% reported, but they went ahead and rolled it into COVID when they could, which is a disservice because COVID-caused myocarditis was still a couple of orders of magnitude higher than vaccine-caused myocarditis, so they could have been honest and still had data showing that the vaccine was better than the disease.

EDIT: Here's a better article that explains that the guy who filed the FOIA got the study he wanted, but also 148 pages of internal communications that were fully redacted. It wasn't the study that was redacted, it was internal communications relating to the study. Still a bad look, but at Global Megacorporation we're exactly the same: Don't release anything unless legally required to do so.


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well, at least one part of that can be regarded as somewhat mitigated. cool.

i'm still givin' it side-eye, though.


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I'd tell you all not to get old, but it beats the alternative.

This morning in the dim kitchen light:
"OK. What garbage did the kids leave on the kitchen table this time? I wish they'd stop doing that."
(Getting closer)
"Oh. That's the Cranky Calico."


Syrus Terrigan wrote:

well, at least one part of that can be regarded as somewhat mitigated. cool.

i'm still givin' it side-eye, though.

As you will. But, considering I get training on this every year from Global Megacorporation, I'm afraid that the answer lies in, "Lawyers being lawyers" rather than "nefarious conspiracies".

Suppose Global Megacorporation gets sued for something about Product X. Our procedure is quite straightforward:

(1) We receive a notification from our legal department that we've been sued and we must provide ALL documents, communications, instant messages, and anything else we have that so much as mentions Product X, directly or indirectly, and we dump that vast data store in a file share the lawyers set up.

(2) The lawyers and their staff then have the unenviable task of going through those tens of thousands (or even hundreds of thousands, or, as I've heard in one of the Trump case, millions) of documents, and redacting everything they aren't legally required to hand over. And the bold italics is what feeds conspiracies worldwide. I could write a memo that said, "I think Product X sucks," and it would go into the document pool, get fully redacted, and the redacted document would be handed over to opposing counsel. It's that bad.

I've said it before but I like to repeat it often: My lawyer friend said, "The law has nothing to do with 'right' or 'wrong'; it's all about what's written down, and how you can interpret that in a way that's most favorable to your client."

So the lawyers redact every single word that they're not legally required to provide, but they're required to notify opposing counsel that they redacted it in case opposing counsel wants to subpoena some of the redacted stuff.

So 148 pages of redacted memos?
(1) They were required to notify the litigant that the documents existed.
(2) They were legally allowed to redact them, so they did.

Redacted documents are far more boring than people make them out to be. Stuff isn't redacted because it's damaging; it's redacted because lawyers figure out that they're allowed to redact it.

EDIT: And yeah, FOIA documents "look" far more exciting than corporate documents because FOIA has much stricter limits on what you can redact, so you see these documents covered with carefully-placed blackout. And it's hard to imagine it's not some damning piece of evidence. But in general it's, "A legal clerk determined that it was legal to black out that sentence so they did."


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Syrus Terrigan wrote:

so, on my way home this morning, i'm scrolling through my YouTube feed, and . . .

** spoiler omitted **

** spoiler omitted **

not my kids. not my problem(s).

but WHATTHEACTUALF!#+??!!

Spoiler:
Do not take ANYTHING NYP prints as actual news without backing it up from a secondary(and possibly tertiary) source. I once(no wait...twice) got in trouble for believing that...publication...was an honest one and I eventually had to leave them behind after one too many sensationalist headlines/stories. They are an embarrassment to my local area.

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Freehold DM wrote:
Syrus Terrigan wrote:

so, on my way home this morning, i'm scrolling through my YouTube feed, and . . .

** spoiler omitted **

** spoiler omitted **

not my kids. not my problem(s).

but WHATTHEACTUALF!#+??!!

** spoiler omitted **

I've become so d**ned jaded over the last 8 years that if Shiro told me that sunrise at his house was at 8:02 am this morning, I'd look it up to confirm.


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"Ms. Scint, is this okay for my presentation?"
"Let me see."
Nicholas II was the last tsar of Russia. He was stupid, and nobody liked him. Not one person.
"...let's try 'He was not widely popular.'"


second one confirmed:
Casper Star-Tribune

Wyoming News Now

looks like local confirmation to me.

fourteen! fourteen!!


Scintillae wrote:

"Ms. Scint, is this okay for my presentation?"

"Let me see."
Nicholas II was the last tsar of Russia. He was stupid, and nobody liked him. Not one person.
"...let's try 'He was not widely popular.'"

I heard he was a mean old caca head.


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So... how paranoid am I?

At the start of this year Global Megacorporation offered us free membership to Gympass, a gym membership company. I figured, "Great! That means I can occasionally go to the Y and get in a workout."

So I enrolled, went to Gympass, and nope. You can't check which local gyms are available to you until you enroll. And you can't enroll without installing their app on your phone. Their web site will not let you search participating gyms, and will not let you enroll.

In short, I can't even check whether or not membership would be useful to me without handing over whatever data they happen to be able to slurp from my phone when I install the app.

Nope.

I canceled my enrollment. HR is pretty good about asking about such things. I'll let them know exactly how I feel about the service.

EDIT: OK. Full and fair disclosure. I went back to Gympass' web site and all of a sudden, miracle of miracles, I can see the local gyms and their tier levels without having to enroll. But while I was researching this post I saw a lot of grar about their pricing practices and how they treat participating gyms.

I'd rather just give the $8 to my local Y for a daily pass, thanks.


The local grocery store is really trying to entice me into getting their app. They’ve got my favorite beer (Sierra Nevada) on sale for about half price. But you have to have their app.


Scintillae wrote:

"Ms. Scint, is this okay for my presentation?"

"Let me see."
Nicholas II was the last tsar of Russia. He was stupid, and nobody liked him. Not one person.
"...let's try 'He was not widely popular.'"

Wife and children. Allegedly they actually loved each other.


NobodysHome wrote:

So... how paranoid am I?

At the start of this year Global Megacorporation offered us free membership to Gympass, a gym membership company. I figured, "Great! That means I can occasionally go to the Y and get in a workout."

So I enrolled, went to Gympass, and nope. You can't check which local gyms are available to you until you enroll. And you can't enroll without installing their app on your phone. Their web site will not let you search participating gyms, and will not let you enroll.

In short, I can't even check whether or not membership would be useful to me without handing over whatever data they happen to be able to slurp from my phone when I install the app.

Nope.

I canceled my enrollment. HR is pretty good about asking about such things. I'll let them know exactly how I feel about the service.

App to visit a gym?

Lol.

Nope.

EDIT: The same applies to grocery shop apps. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nopesaurs Rex.


Actually, you lost me on gym...


Drejk wrote:
Scintillae wrote:

"Ms. Scint, is this okay for my presentation?"

"Let me see."
Nicholas II was the last tsar of Russia. He was stupid, and nobody liked him. Not one person.
"...let's try 'He was not widely popular.'"
Wife and children. Allegedly they actually loved each other.

People were fighting to put the tsar back in power. They were winning too. Which is why the bolsheviks slaughtered the tsar and his family.


Waterhammer wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Scintillae wrote:

"Ms. Scint, is this okay for my presentation?"

"Let me see."
Nicholas II was the last tsar of Russia. He was stupid, and nobody liked him. Not one person.
"...let's try 'He was not widely popular.'"
Wife and children. Allegedly they actually loved each other.
People were fighting to put the tsar back in power. They were winning too. Which is why the bolsheviks slaughtered the tsar and his family.

That's a common misconception and part of Bolshevik propaganda.

While there were tsarist White Russians, they were minority. Majority of Whites were simply anti-Bolshevik and often, but not always republican (in the very general sense of wanting to form some sort of a constitutional republic), with varying degree of ties to Provisional Government established during the February Revolution. In fact one of the major leaders was a monarchist but was willing to fight for the provisional government.

Bolsheviks painted all Whites as tsarists in their propaganda to undermine people's support for them.


Drejk wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
...

App to visit a gym?

Lol.

Nope.

EDIT: The same applies to grocery shop apps. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nopesaurs Rex.

Oh, in this case it makes absolute sense. Since they're a "gym agglomeration service", they need to know how much to reimburse each gym (and I guarantee they do it on a per-visit basis, not as a monthly fee). And they don't want the gyms self-reporting, because that way lies madness, or at least gross corruption.

So, "Once you're a member of our service, use our app to get into the gym," is a reasonable request.
"You may not become a member of our service until after you've installed our app," isn't.


Drejk wrote:
Waterhammer wrote:
Drejk wrote:
Scintillae wrote:

"Ms. Scint, is this okay for my presentation?"

"Let me see."
Nicholas II was the last tsar of Russia. He was stupid, and nobody liked him. Not one person.
"...let's try 'He was not widely popular.'"
Wife and children. Allegedly they actually loved each other.
People were fighting to put the tsar back in power. They were winning too. Which is why the bolsheviks slaughtered the tsar and his family.

That's a common misconception and part of Bolshevik propaganda.

While there were tsarist White Russians, they were minority. Majority of Whites were simply anti-Bolshevik and often, but not always republican (in the very general sense of wanting to form some sort of a constitutional republic), with varying degree of ties to Provisional Government established during the February Revolution. In fact one of the major leaders was a monarchist but was willing to fight for the provisional government.

Bolsheviks painted all Whites as tsarists in their propaganda to undermine people's support for them.

Could be, I can’t really say I’m an expert on that phrase of history. It is interesting to note that the current Russian government has adopted the symbols and colors of the tsar.


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Drejk wrote:
Scintillae wrote:

"Ms. Scint, is this okay for my presentation?"

"Let me see."
Nicholas II was the last tsar of Russia. He was stupid, and nobody liked him. Not one person.
"...let's try 'He was not widely popular.'"
Wife and children. Allegedly they actually loved each other.

I was more focused on "Let's choose our words to be more professional," admittedly.

Not three hours later, I had to have the "I'm not saying you're wrong to think that Tom Buchanan is a douchebag; I'm saying we really shouldn't be saying douchebag in class" discussion.


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I took a chomp, a bite,
getting bloody dark out
panic if you're still alive,
six to eight bites to midnight
and now if I swallow there may be no tommorow
but when the buffet's dun
might as well be snacking on the sun.


It's kind of uplifting and depressing at the same time to watch Global Megacorporation make such incredible leaps and bounds in its software that I'd actually recommend it these days, while at the same time I'm constantly running into companies that really need it but probably couldn't afford it.

The "universal one-size fits all" replacement antenna for my Celica didn't, so I've been scouring the world for a replacement. (You'd be surprised what kind of OEM stuff is lying around in boxes if price is no issue.)

I found one left in stock at a dealership in Colorado Springs. "Oops. Sorry. No, we don't actually have that in stock." I found one at an old parts specialist in Japan. "Oops. Sorry. No, we don't actually have that in stock." I found one that actually managed to be out of my price range in the U.K. (yeah, I'll live without a $750 antenna, thanks). "Oh, no, that was listed by accident."

Yes, maintaining correct inventory is one of the hardest things a retail outlet does. I used to do it at the video store, and the number of employees who sold stuff without so much as writing a receipt was appalling. But with "modern" UPC codes and scanning, all you need to do is buy software that tracks that s***.

So yeah, frustrating, but I can live without an antenna. I have for many, many years now.

(And yeah, they sell a host of used ones on eBay for $240 a pop, but considering that I had two break in under 3 years each, $240 for one that might last a year is a bit much, even for me.)


And yeah, last night was kind of funny. <anonymous> wasn't around so we got a different fourth who actually focused on working with the rest of the group and not causing spawns everywhere he went. And all evening we kept asking, "Are you sure you set this to the right difficulty level? This is way too easy."

We've played many, many games where <anonymous>' selfish play style made things harder than they had to be. And yes, when we get frustrated we just leave him dead for a while so we don't have to deal with him. (He dies a lot because staying with the group isn't in his DNA.) But Helldivers 2 is the first game where his play style is literally 2-3 levels of difficulty in the game. It's amazing.


And finally, in IT news, it's entertaining that Global Megacorporation uses a Microsoft Exchange server and builds everything around using Microsoft Outlook, then pushes Mozilla Thunderbird to all our machines.

I'd prefer to use it. I've tried to use it. But with our entire infrastructure built around Exchange/Outlook, it just plain doesn't work.

So why does IT keep pushing it out to me?


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NobodysHome wrote:
(...)Yes, maintaining correct inventory is one of the hardest things a retail outlet does. I used to do it at the video store, and the number of employees who sold stuff without so much as writing a receipt was appalling. But with "modern" UPC codes and scanning, all you need to do is buy software that tracks that s***.

*gets flashbacks from job in England, hides in the corner of the warehouse looking through the dozens of phones stashed in out of place crate*


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In cuter news, it's springtime, which means baby animals are running amok through our neighborhood. While I haven't seen them, every day for the last week or two there's been some kind of ball on our deck. An old baseball. A blue rubber ball from the kids' childhood. Just a lone ball, sitting somewhere in the middle of the deck.

So some animals are using our deck as a nighttime playground. I fully approve.

EDIT: Aaaand... cue GothBard encouraging me to get a nighttime hunting camera so we can record and watch our furry friends' shenanigans. *SIGH*. Ah, well, Mother-in-Law will squee in delight if we get any decent footage.


Feed.

Me.

Augh.

Liberty's Edge

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NobodysHome wrote:
Yes, maintaining correct inventory is one of the hardest things a retail outlet does. I used to do it at the video store, and the number of employees who sold stuff without so much as writing a receipt was appalling. But with "modern" UPC codes and scanning, all you need to do is buy software that tracks that s***.

The problem with that thinking is that you forget what happens at the intersection of you needing an OLD part, which if I understand is indeed the case, and the rollout of easier scanning-based computer-managed inventory systems. When those things started being affordably rolled out it was almost certainly AFTER the part that you're looking for had been bought and was at one point on their shelves so it existed on the original inventory listing and was at one point cataloged as being in stock when it was actually used or otherwise transferred when that inventory system wasn't well maintained by staff. When they transitioned to the new system they simply imported the old inventory list they had been using and it integrated all the errors from beforehand that WOULD be easy to avoid going forward as they'd have a new SKU scanning system but it predates all that and there doesn't even exist a SKU in their building to scan to say it isn't present. Couple that with less NEED to do regular and thorough inventory searches to rebuild it from the ground up and what you get is a ton of ghost items in inventory that are only ever discovered when that item is requested and some poor employee has to go look for it when in reality a tech probably transferred it to another location a decade ago and then the paperwork for updating the inventory either never got done by mistake/incompetence or there was human error involved with handling that tracking system manually.

I ran into this type of thing every single day at my former job doing systems work for a supermarket chain maintaining all manner of computers, inventory lists, merchandise return claims, fraud paperwork, scan-law reports, and pricing issues. The company had switched to a new inventory system twice while I was at that job and the one they used shortly before I took that position was indeed about as manual and yardstick as you can imagine ANY business could afford to get away with in the mid 2010s after dragging their feet on modernizing their business for fifty odd years.


Themetricsystem wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Yes, maintaining correct inventory is one of the hardest things a retail outlet does. I used to do it at the video store, and the number of employees who sold stuff without so much as writing a receipt was appalling. But with "modern" UPC codes and scanning, all you need to do is buy software that tracks that s***.

The problem with that thinking is that you forget what happens at the intersection of you needing an OLD part, which if I understand is indeed the case, and the rollout of easier scanning-based computer-managed inventory systems. When those things started being affordably rolled out it was almost certainly AFTER the part that you're looking for had been bought and was at one point on their shelves so it existed on the original inventory listing and was at one point cataloged as being in stock when it was actually used or otherwise transferred when that inventory system wasn't well maintained by staff. When they transitioned to the new system they simply imported the old inventory list they had been using and it integrated all the errors from beforehand that WOULD be easy to avoid going forward as they'd have a new SKU scanning system but it predates all that and there doesn't even exist a SKU in their building to scan to say it isn't present. Couple that with less NEED to do regular and thorough inventory searches to rebuild it from the ground up and what you get is a ton of ghost items in inventory that are only ever discovered when that item is requested and some poor employee has to go look for it when in reality a tech probably transferred it to another location a decade ago and then the paperwork for updating the inventory either never got done by mistake/incompetence or there was human error involved with handling that tracking system manually.

I ran into this type of thing every single day at my former job doing systems work for a supermarket chain maintaining all manner of computers, inventory lists, merchandise return claims, fraud paperwork,...

Wow! Great insight! And says something about those companies...

...'cause at the video store when we upgraded to a new system I had the "honor" of re-scanning everything into the new system. And no, we didn't have a portable scanner, so it was "pull everything off the top shelf, scan it all in, put it all back. Now do the next shelf. All while still helping any customers who come in."

It took me about 4 days to do 10,000 items, and then about 2 months to get the strays (videos that had been checked out when I scanned, misplaced videos, etc.) in. But at the end of it all we had an accurate inventory.

But yeah, "We don't want to pay our employees to actually check our inventory as we transition," checks out.


Food. Good.


Freehold DM wrote:

Feed.

Me.

Augh.

'Augh' is some sort of Middle Eastern aubergine-based dish, right?


I almost got into a serious accident.

I was driving to the fancy farmers market on the other side of town. It's really windy. The car is shaking in the wind and the trees are dancing. So I'm waiting at the light. I'm the first car in the line so I'm right under the light. I hear the siren for a some kind of emergency vehicle and I notice it's coming up from the driver's side and I just wait patiently. He breezes past me, getting a bit close for my comfort (it's a fire truck) and I notice that the light changed as he went by. Huh. Weird, and a bit of a jerk for getting so close but whatever. So I start to drive and i notice noone else is moving. This is weird so I look around and I see the light was red again. This was insane. It was green a moment ago. I stopped immediately and notice I was already past the crosswalk, and I am in the intersection. Naturally, the cops are in the lane next to me on the passengers side. I am mortified. It turns out it's so windy THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL HAS ROTATED AND I WAS LOOKING AT THE WRONG SIGNAL THIS WHOLE TIME.

I try to back up but there's no point- the right light changed for real this time. I drive on, and the cops ignore me.

Thank GOD there was no oncoming traffic...


A traffic signal that can rotate?!?!? In the wind?!?!?

Don't they have teenagers in New York?

Rotating street signs so visitors get lost was practically a rite of passage around here. Kids would sneak off with their dad's full-length monkey wrench in the middle of the night, rotate the sign 90°, go to bed, and wake up in the morning to giggle at the confusion. Once they started doing it to Stop signs and One Way signs the Powers That Be started using square posts for everything. So you'll notice all our Stop Signs and One Way signs are on square wooden posts embedded in concrete and bolted in, so you'd need a full tool kit to perform that "prank" these days.

But yes, we have several One Way streets in Albany, and when I was a teen you'd see the signs rotated about once every two months. Surprisingly, honking was incredibly common, but accidents were rare because all of the streets were really narrow so people drove slowly on them.


I’ve seen traffic lights that hang down from a cable that was stretched over the street. Seems like those could rotate if the wind is strong.

Sign posts around here are square and steel. With special nuts to make the sign hard to steal. Because that’s what the kids around here do. A stop sign hanging in your bedroom is super cool. The county has more difficulty with drunk drivers running signs over than anything else though.
There are steel power poles with dents in them for the same reason. And years back I had to replace a fire hydrant. The car hit it and it tipped over. The top was supposed to snap off, but for some reason it didn’t. And somehow, there was no geyser The underground concrete thrust block held, even though the hydrant was tipped, probably 30 degrees sideways.


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Ok, that was funny. I was walking in downtown Berkeley and yet another a****** driver started honking at me for daring to cross the street in the crosswalk with the light, blocking them from doing their left turn. I texted GothBard about it.

Turns out it was her and a mutual friend who's known me for nearly 40 years... But who still thought they should honk at me to say, "Hi!"

I guess they don't know me as well as I thought they did...


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Waterhammer wrote:

I’ve seen traffic lights that hang down from a cable that was stretched over the street. Seems like those could rotate if the wind is strong.

Sign posts around here are square and steel. With special nuts to make the sign hard to steal. Because that’s what the kids around here do. A stop sign hanging in your bedroom is super cool. The county has more difficulty with drunk drivers running signs over than anything else though.
There are steel power poles with dents in them for the same reason. And years back I had to replace a fire hydrant. The car hit it and it tipped over. The top was supposed to snap off, but for some reason it didn’t. And somehow, there was no geyser The underground concrete thrust block held, even though the hydrant was tipped, probably 30 degrees sideways.

Yes, indeed. One of my childhood felonies was stealing street signs. Ended up with so many I had to start giving them away because there was no more room on my walls.

But even back then my Lawful nature showed: I *never* vandalized traffic control signs such as Stop signs or Do Not Enter signs. Those I got directly from CalTrans facilities.

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I was sorely tempted by the tank crossing sign along the main route through Ft Stewart, but I decided if I really wanted one I should look for whatever company produced them for a legal purchase.


TriOmegaZero wrote:
I was sorely tempted by the tank crossing sign along the main route through Ft Stewart, but I decided if I really wanted one I should look for whatever company produced them for a legal purchase.

I feel like I would need a tank to go along with the sign.


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I never got a felony, I got a ticket for having pot once but even then I was taking the fall so my friend wouldn't get kicked out of college.

I'd do it again every time.

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