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First snow run went quickly and without a hitch, even though they gave me the Death Trap to drive.

New Guy #2: Aren't you afraid to drive this thing?

Me: Nope, MY door opens, you should be afraid though!


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So I have no idea what bug entered my uphill neighbors wee brains, but they are now watering so much that my back yard is flooded with a full inch of water every day.

One of Impus Minor's friends just came over, stepped in it, and had to set her shoes and socks out to dry.

Lesson 1: Watch where you're stepping
Lesson 2: Don't overwater

I swear, my uphill neighbors are nice enough people, but how can you possibly justify the water use that comes with flooding other people's yards??!?!

I was feeling guilty getting close to 200 gallons a day...


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Choir director tonight: "I need a little glottal stroke on that."

Me (in heavy Russian accent): "Stroking glottals is extra."

Maybe it's a kind of Tourette's.


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Round two!! Fight!!!


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It looks like the guys that stayed at the shop and got lit between runs already regrets it, too bad we haven't even started the second run.

Sucks to be them! Glad they aren't with me I would have sent them home already (no, they aren't driving anything, they're strictly labor).

Scarab Sages

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Tacticslion wrote:
Woran wrote:
So tired today
Also, yeah. *offers tired high-five, while leaving head down, and also yawning, but not for too long, ‘cause tired arms.*

Lets do a low five. Less effort involved.


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You could try a high two and a half, maybe.


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Run two is over, victory is mine!


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I have the longest snow list (it's not even close) yet I got done with my list first last night and I even knocked a few off someone else's list.

How, you ask?

I didn't get drunk (and neither did my crew).

Luckily, the boss sees this type of stuff so I'll probably get another raise on my next check.

And it helped sustain morale for the crew, because every time they'd start to look tired I'd point out how much the other crews were hating life about now and we'd have a nice hearty laugh.


Woran wrote:
Tacticslion wrote:
Woran wrote:
So tired today
Also, yeah. *offers tired high-five, while leaving head down, and also yawning, but not for too long, ‘cause tired arms.*
Lets do a low five. Less effort involved.

Mildly empathetic grunt and vague acknowledgement of an equal?


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captain yesterday wrote:

I have the longest snow list (it's not even close) yet I got done with my list first last night and I even knocked a few off someone else's list.

How, you ask?

I didn't get drunk (and neither did my crew).

Luckily, the boss sees this type of stuff so I'll probably get another raise on my next check.

And it helped sustain morale for the crew, because every time they'd start to look tired I'd point out how much the other crews were hating life about now and we'd have a nice hearty laugh.

Nice.

;)


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Yay! Fog!!!


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Ah, to be young again!

Impus Major: That burrito I had last night tasted like cholesterol! It was amazing!
NobodysHome: It was good, then?
IM: Any place that puts french fries in a burrito is OK with me!


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Speaking of "youth" vs. "old age", I swear, people become so enamored of their opinions that they consider them immutable facts.

Young Global Megacorporation Worker: Considering the number of articles that have come out recently indicating that workers in a 4-day, 32-hour work week are actually quite a bit more productive than workers in a traditional 5-day, 40-hour work week (and the evidence is significant), has Global Megacorporation considered introducing this on a trial basis?
Older Worker: Those studies weren't done at companies as big as ours! 32 hours is less than 40, so less work would be done, so there's no point in trying. Why are you so lazy?

*sigh*

As if any white-collar worker with a 40-hour work week actually spends 40 hours working. (Sorry, I was a teacher, so I know they actually PUT IN 60+ hours a week. And I've watched in awe as many in the labor and service industries exceed that number regularly. But office workers? I doubt most of them put in even 20.)


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Other Random Observations for the Day:

  • Impus Major's observation that Halloween candy gets sadder and sadder as November progresses, as people eat all the "Tier 1" candy, then the "Tier 2" candy, until a couple of weeks in, you're left with nothing but "Tier 3" candy that nobody wants to eat, but nobody wants to throw away, either.
  • My repeated complaints that takeout places don't include a, "Please no condiments, napkins, nor plasticware, PLEASE" checkbox. Last night was apparently National Nachos Night, so we ordered nachos and a few other things from a place near the U.C. campus, because college Mexican is the greasiest, fattiest, cheesiest, cheapest Mexican. And for 3 burritos and an order of nachos we got around a dozen forks, 20 napkins, etc. I know that employees are told, "This stuff is cheap, so don't tick off customers by skimping on it."
    But, being environmentally aware, throwing all that brand new crap into my green waste/recycling is just jarring.

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    Collect it and give it to your local soup kitchen or homeless shelter at the end of the month.

    Just a thought.


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    Our local shelters accept neither candy nor unpackaged napkins nor unpackaged plasticware.

    As I've complained about before, our area is so gentrified that even the shelters can be extremely picky about what they'll take and what they won't, and it's pretty much, "If it's not new and in its original packaging, we won't take it."

    And even then, things like candy aren't accepted.


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    NobodysHome wrote:

    Our local shelters accept neither candy nor unpackaged napkins nor unpackaged plasticware.

    As I've complained about before, our area is so gentrified that even the shelters can be extremely picky about what they'll take and what they won't, and it's pretty much, "If it's not new and in its original packaging, we won't take it."

    And even then, things like candy aren't accepted.

    as someone who works in a related field, you would be surprised at the amount of things we get in an attempt to be helpful that we have to turn away. Sometimes people are just trying to foist off junk. Someone brought a pickup truck full of gently used flatware. Unorganized. Without a hand truck. We couldn't use that, and we were called snooty for refusing it. It's not gentrification(at least not in our case), it's logistics.


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    Hello, everyone.

    Constant rain, here, turning to snow at around 5 PM.


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    Freehold DM wrote:
    NobodysHome wrote:

    Our local shelters accept neither candy nor unpackaged napkins nor unpackaged plasticware.

    As I've complained about before, our area is so gentrified that even the shelters can be extremely picky about what they'll take and what they won't, and it's pretty much, "If it's not new and in its original packaging, we won't take it."

    And even then, things like candy aren't accepted.

    as someone who works in a related field, you would be surprised at the amount of things we get in an attempt to be helpful that we have to turn away. Sometimes people are just trying to foist off junk. Someone brought a pickup truck full of gently used flatware. Unorganized. Without a hand truck. We couldn't use that, and we were called snooty for refusing it. It's not gentrification(at least not in our case), it's logistics.

    I actually appreciated your comment on clothing and how lice have rendered used clothing and stuffed animals unacceptable for health reasons. And yeah, I know people are a$$hats about donations -- the library guys were really leery about me bringing box after box after box of used books in, until they realized that every single box had at least one brand-new $50+ book in it, making the boxes worth accepting even if 90% of the stuff was junk. (I do my best to properly adjudicate whether or not books are worthwhile to the library, but I'd be surprised if I'm even 70% accurate.)

    But yeah, there's an unhappy circle of, "People give me too much unpackaged crap such as paper plates, plasticware, and napkins," and the natural reaction is, "Donate it!", and it's not until you try and talk to the donees about it that you realize that it really doesn't make sense for them to accept such stuff: They'd have to manually wash the plasticware, which immediately makes it more trouble than it's worth, etc.

    So green waste and recycling it is.


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    NobodysHome wrote:
    Older Worker: Those studies weren't done at companies as big as ours! 32 hours is less than 40, so less work would be done, so there's no point in trying. Why are you so lazy?

    That's why "OK, Boomer" is a thing.


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    NobodysHome wrote:

    Speaking of "youth" vs. "old age", I swear, people become so enamored of their opinions that they consider them immutable facts.

    Young Global Megacorporation Worker: Considering the number of articles that have come out recently indicating that workers in a 4-day, 32-hour work week are actually quite a bit more productive than workers in a traditional 5-day, 40-hour work week (and the evidence is significant), has Global Megacorporation considered introducing this on a trial basis?
    Older Worker: Those studies weren't done at companies as big as ours! 32 hours is less than 40, so less work would be done, so there's no point in trying. Why are you so lazy?

    *sigh*

    As if any white-collar worker with a 40-hour work week actually spends 40 hours working. (Sorry, I was a teacher, so I know they actually PUT IN 60+ hours a week. And I've watched in awe as many in the labor and service industries exceed that number regularly. But office workers? I doubt most of them put in even 20.)

    I can't even get into this conversation from the perspective of my job.


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    CrystalSeas wrote:
    NobodysHome wrote:
    Older Worker: Those studies weren't done at companies as big as ours! 32 hours is less than 40, so less work would be done, so there's no point in trying. Why are you so lazy?
    That's why "OK, Boomer" is a thing.

    Oh, don't get me started or we'll end up in a political nuclear wasteland.

    Impus Major has taken to responding to our requests with, "OK, Boomer."

    As Gen Xers, aka The Forgotten Generation, we bristle a wee bit at being called Boomers.

    EDIT: I get to be even more bitter, because the original charts defining Gen X back in the 1980s had the Boomers stop at 1965, and Gen X start anywhere between 1969 and 1971, so those of us born in the late 60s didn't even get a classification.


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    Amusingly enough, completely unaware of this conversation, my manager sent me a link to "Generations in the Workplace", some just-released diversity training trying to teach Millenials that us grognards are useful, and us grognards not to be so grumpy that everyone's doing everything they can to cater to Millenials.

    I feel like the rest of the family in that Simpsons episode where everyone was complaining about being unheard, and Homer said, "I'm a 35-year-old white male! Everyone listens to me!"

    Not us. We're Generation X.

    Scarab Sages

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    NobodysHome wrote:

    Speaking of "youth" vs. "old age", I swear, people become so enamored of their opinions that they consider them immutable facts.

    Young Global Megacorporation Worker: Considering the number of articles that have come out recently indicating that workers in a 4-day, 32-hour work week are actually quite a bit more productive than workers in a traditional 5-day, 40-hour work week (and the evidence is significant), has Global Megacorporation considered introducing this on a trial basis?
    Older Worker: Those studies weren't done at companies as big as ours! 32 hours is less than 40, so less work would be done, so there's no point in trying. Why are you so lazy?

    *sigh*

    As if any white-collar worker with a 40-hour work week actually spends 40 hours working. (Sorry, I was a teacher, so I know they actually PUT IN 60+ hours a week. And I've watched in awe as many in the labor and service industries exceed that number regularly. But office workers? I doubt most of them put in even 20.)

    I work 32 hours. I'm never going back to 40.

    Scarab Sages

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    I really feel the Ok Boomer meme.

    Every day I have to help people from that age with their computers. And while its not easy to stick with all the tech and how complicated it is... If you're not willing to put in minimal effort and blame it all on me... Ok Boomer.


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    NobodysHome wrote:
    CrystalSeas wrote:
    NobodysHome wrote:
    Older Worker: Those studies weren't done at companies as big as ours! 32 hours is less than 40, so less work would be done, so there's no point in trying. Why are you so lazy?
    That's why "OK, Boomer" is a thing.

    Oh, don't get me started or we'll end up in a political nuclear wasteland.

    Impus Major has taken to responding to our requests with, "OK, Boomer."

    As Gen Xers, aka The Forgotten Generation, we bristle a wee bit at being called Boomers.

    EDIT: I get to be even more bitter, because the original charts defining Gen X back in the 1980s had the Boomers stop at 1965, and Gen X start anywhere between 1969 and 1971, so those of us born in the late 60s didn't even get a classification.

    as I was born in 1978, I identify as post-x or generation Y.


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    Yeah...I really can't be upset with the existence of "Ok, Boomer." It honestly feels...refreshing, for lack of a better way to put it. Years of having the out-of-touch-but-refusing-to-admit-it blame my generation for daring to struggle with the situation crapped into our laps and therefore gasp deviate from the sacred tradition...

    But I do think it's only a matter of time before "Ok, Boomer" gets completely co-opted by cases like Impus Major's.


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    Scintillae wrote:

    Yeah...I really can't be upset with the existence of "Ok, Boomer." It honestly feels...refreshing, for lack of a better way to put it. Years of having the out-of-touch-but-refusing-to-admit-it blame my generation for daring to struggle with the situation crapped into our laps and therefore gasp deviate from the sacred tradition...

    But I do think it's only a matter of time before "Ok, Boomer" gets completely co-opted by cases like Impus Major's.

    Modern problems require modern scintlutions.


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    So, for those of you interested, the woman presenting the "Generations in the Workforce" training that I'm taking did her Ph.D. on generational bias in the workforce AND wrote a book on it, and her definitions are:

    Traditionalists: Born before 1945, currently 74+
    Baby Boomers: Born 1945-1964, currently 55-74
    Generation X: Born 1965-1980, currently 39-54
    Millenials, aka Generation Y: Born 1981-2000, currently 19-38
    Generation Z: Born after 2000, currently under 19

    EDIT: And notice that every generation EXCEPT Gen X gets 20 years. We only get 16! I claim robbery!


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    Mrs Sunrise and I are are millennials, I think she was born juuust after the starting line. But I don't identify as millennial or any of them; the idea of demographic generations always seemed...I dunno, frivolous and uninteresting to me? So whenever I see or hear "millennials are ruining X", which honestly isn't very often bc most people I know aren't idiots I guess, I think "WAA WAA I'm old and complain-y." Which I guess is basically equivalent to "OK boomer."


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    I'm generation X. We never complained, because we never cared enough to do so.

    By the way, anyone with 100000 plastic forks they want to get rid of can send them to ALL (DE)'s little lad, who will promptly make them all into replicas of Toy Story 4's 'Forky', and then break them.


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    NobodysHome wrote:

    So, for those of you interested, the woman presenting the "Generations in the Workforce" training that I'm taking did her Ph.D. on generational bias in the workforce AND wrote a book on it, and her definitions are:

    Traditionalists: Born before 1945, currently 74+
    Baby Boomers: Born 1945-1964, currently 55-74
    Generation X: Born 1965-1980, currently 39-54
    Millenials, aka Generation Y: Born 1981-2000, currently 19-38
    Generation Z: Born after 2000, currently under 19

    EDIT: And notice that every generation EXCEPT Gen X gets 20 years. We only get 16! I claim robbery!

    hey, those numbers are off! I'm generation Y dammit!


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    In the Magic multiverse, Ugin is an ancient and wise dragon-mage. Real badass, right?

    Today I was thinking about how Ugin might be pronounced, given the ambiguities of English. (I've since googled it, but.) I thought "the U could be YOO, the G pronounced as J, the I as EE...it's Eugene the Spirit Dragon!" And then I thought of a cowardly mulleted dragon-mage in a zombie dystopia, and I was happy.


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    I seriously wish this wasn't an internal talk. This stuff is amazing. When you compare what the "gurus" say about generations vs. the cold hard facts, all you learn is that the gurus are idiots.

    She's going through and showing the most well-known generational books and showing how they're contradicting each other.

    But my favorite one so far: One book said Baby Boomers volunteer more than any other generation. A second book said Millenials do.

    So they just went to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, and it turns out that Generation X kicks both their butts.

    We just don't brag about it.

    OMG. She just delivered the coup de grace, and she's only 15 minutes in.

    "So, at the start of the presentation, I had all of you put your generalizations about Traditionalists, Baby Boomers, Gen X, Millenials, and Gen Zs into chat."

    "Let's do that with race..."

    She let the shocked audience hang for about 10 seconds, then said, "So if it's appalling for you to do that for races, why is it OK for you to do that with ages?"

    I am impress.


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    Gen X f%%$ing rules!


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    NobodysHome wrote:

    Amusingly enough, completely unaware of this conversation, my manager sent me a link to "Generations in the Workplace", some just-released diversity training trying to teach Millenials that us grognards are useful, and us grognards not to be so grumpy that everyone's doing everything they can to cater to Millenials.

    I feel like the rest of the family in that Simpsons episode where everyone was complaining about being unheard, and Homer said, "I'm a 35-year-old white male! Everyone listens to me!"

    Not us. We're Generation X.

    Did you say something? I wasn't listening to you.


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    Final Quote of the Presentation wrote:
    The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise.

    Author:
    Socrates, c. 2500 years ago

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    What's awesome is that I'm getting paid to watch this stuff!!! My manager recommended it.

    Next is "unconscious bias", which (ironically) I'm aware of, but my manager says it's worth watching, and the first one was SOOOOOO good I'm really looking forward to it.

    Grand Lodge

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    Man, mandatory training that is worth the expense? That’s a unicorn for certain.


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    What I told the boss when he had two way radios installed in all the trucks: I'll give it a month before everyone has either a phallic themed or 80s rock band call sign".

    8 eight days later and we already have White Snake and Red Rocket.


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    Master Ball goooooooo!


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    TriOmegaZero wrote:
    Man, mandatory training that is worth the expense? That’s a unicorn for certain.

    You're right. This second one SUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!

    "You KNOW you're biased! Click on the CEO on this page! What?!?!? You didn't click on the tall white male! You're a LIAR! This makes you WORSE than the people who clicked on the tall white male!!!"

    I call the whole thing a big paladin trap. Useless and annoying.


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    Freehold DM wrote:
    NobodysHome wrote:

    So, for those of you interested, the woman presenting the "Generations in the Workforce" training that I'm taking did her Ph.D. on generational bias in the workforce AND wrote a book on it, and her definitions are:

    Traditionalists: Born before 1945, currently 74+
    Baby Boomers: Born 1945-1964, currently 55-74
    Generation X: Born 1965-1980, currently 39-54
    Millenials, aka Generation Y: Born 1981-2000, currently 19-38
    Generation Z: Born after 2000, currently under 19

    EDIT: And notice that every generation EXCEPT Gen X gets 20 years. We only get 16! I claim robbery!

    hey, those numbers are off! I'm generation Y dammit!

    Which is different from Millenials! *shakes fist*


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    . . . . .


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    ...aaaand...
    - Stupid set of questions where every single answer is, "Yes, that shows bias."
    - Stupid acronym followed up with test on whether you were paying any attention at all

    This is truly agonizing training.


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    Gen X? All I know is that I'm constantly sore / in pain. My mother thinks that I somehow, I pulled a muscle.


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    NobodysHome wrote:
    TriOmegaZero wrote:
    Man, mandatory training that is worth the expense? That’s a unicorn for certain.

    You're right. This second one SUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!

    "You KNOW you're biased! Click on the CEO on this page! What?!?!? You didn't click on the tall white male! You're a LIAR! This makes you WORSE than the people who clicked on the tall white male!!!"

    I call the whole thing a big paladin trap. Useless and annoying.

    you mean the traps you fall into regularly?


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    Drejk wrote:
    Freehold DM wrote:
    NobodysHome wrote:

    So, for those of you interested, the woman presenting the "Generations in the Workforce" training that I'm taking did her Ph.D. on generational bias in the workforce AND wrote a book on it, and her definitions are:

    Traditionalists: Born before 1945, currently 74+
    Baby Boomers: Born 1945-1964, currently 55-74
    Generation X: Born 1965-1980, currently 39-54
    Millenials, aka Generation Y: Born 1981-2000, currently 19-38
    Generation Z: Born after 2000, currently under 19

    EDIT: And notice that every generation EXCEPT Gen X gets 20 years. We only get 16! I claim robbery!

    hey, those numbers are off! I'm generation Y dammit!
    Which is different from Millenials! *shakes fist*

    EXACTLY!


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    Clocking out, soon. Good night, everyone.

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