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I got this!
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A bird has been using our plastic rap for nest building.
At my high school the grade splits were harsh and uneven.
94-100 A
87-93 B
78-86 C
70-77 D
0-69 FWat...how...I don't...why...who came up with this letter-scheme?!
*left eye twitches uncontrollably*
Six points
Six pointsEight points
Seven points
Internet joke involving “bear” druids and succcubi?
I mean, obviously, TS...
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The trap? You fell right into it...
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Damn it, I had a casual Friday joke and everything.
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Damn it, I had a casual Friday joke and everything.
Better luck next time!
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At least you're not licking your eyeball anymore.
I got this!
No pressure, or anything, but I just want to tell you... good luck, and we're all counting on you.
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I don't even care about the nest anymore.
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My boss did something I have not seen her do before, in seven years.
She broke her own policy and sent out the notice today announcing my resignation to all the parents even though the replacement for my position hasn't officially said yes or signed the contract yet.She did it so all the parents/children who aren't signed up for the summer program can get a chance to say goodbye to me at the commencement ceremony tomorrow.
Seriously; she never does this and usually just shrugs and says, "Yeah, it's too bad the timing didn't work out."Guess I'm not wearing mascara tomorrow.
No pressure, or anything, but I just want to tell you... good luck, and we're all counting on you.
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At least you're not licking your eyeball anymore.
Who's not?
At least you're not licking your eyeball anymore.
I itch that tongue, though, he could.
Why? Because it works for about everything, that’s why.
I don't even care about the nest anymore.
No pressure, or anything, but I just want to tell you... good luck, and we're all counting on you.
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I'm seriously considering weighting my English grades this coming year. I had way too many kids who would do all their homework (almost certainly copied from/"worked on together with" a classmate) so they could turn in a subpar summative essay/project and skate out with a higher grade. One of my kids turned in just enough of a final project to merit a 25% (1s across the board on a 4-pt rubric) with a broad grin because he knew it wouldn't bring him down enough to fail.
But I'm leery of doing so from my old school, where we had a mandatory 80/20 weight with the opposite problem - the kids knew they didn't need the homework to pass, so barely anyone ever did it. Which, of course, led to them failing because they hadn't mastered the skills practiced in the homework being assessed on the projects and tests...
I just want to make them care about the quality of their work.
as I always wonder in such enviornments, which is more important- knowing how to make the system work for you or how to work for the system?
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At least you're not licking your eyeball anymore.I itch that tongue, though, he could.
That...that came from the neural network, right? That wasn't an actual post?
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I like to believe it was intentional, only because it brightens my day.
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TL's posts often get a surreal quality, where you can either say, "Darn that aneurysm!" or, "Hey, TL! Upgrade to a phone whose autocorrect at least produces grammatically-correct sentences!"
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I'm always frustrated by teachers who do a strict, by-the-book curve because of events such as Impus Major's, but having been the subject of a formal complaint because I used subjective curving, I at least understand why some teachers do it.
But watching Impus Major get straight C's on all the exams leading up to the final, and then suddenly in the last 2 months of class catch fire and get straight A's, then a straight-up A on the final, and end up with a B- in class due to the quality of his previous work was... frustrating.
Understandable. But frustrating.
Grading on a curve has always boggled my mind...
Basically you dont have to be any good... just better then your classmates.The difficulty in a "straight curve" is the idea is that the teacher can somehow, miraculously, figure out exactly how to create an exam such that A-level students will get over 90%, B-level students will get over 80%, and so forth.
My U.C. Professor insisted that, "If you're asking students to solve problems they've already seen before, then how are you determining whether they've actually learned anything?"
Impus Major's physics teacher designed an exam where he messed up and made it too hard and the average was 56%.Did the whole class deserve an F? Or should he make some adjustments to account for the fact that he is a fallible human being?
My curve was simple:
> 90% Automatic A
> 80% Automatically at least a B
> 70% Automatically at least a C
> 60% Automatically at least a D
< 50% Automatically an FBut then the actual grades depended on natural breaks in the distribution (which always happen); in one class an 83% might be an A, in another class it might be an A-, and in another class it might be a B.
To assume that teachers can somehow miraculously design their exams such that classes naturally fall into exact breaks is really expecting quite a lot...
due to my school background, to say nothing of my own anti authorative nature, any class I was in where everyone failed(and that happened once or twice) would face a massive uprising on the part of the students.
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Well, I have two separate instances that indicate the delicacy of grading:
In my undergraduate years at U.C. Berkeley I had an upper-division Quantum Mechanics class that was graded on a full curve, and taught by a man who I'm sure was brilliant, but who had no business whatsoever teaching students. His lectures were incomprehensible, and the book had nothing to do with what he taught.
So most of us just skipped class and only showed up to the tests. I learned nothing whatsoever. Seriously. I just drew a few doodles, rewrote the problems, and made some random mathematical stuff that had nothing to do with the problem. Yet partial credit got me to a whopping 28% in the class.
Which was a B+.
Not only did I pass a class in which I learned nothing, but I got an above-average grade due to excessive curving.
On the other hand, in my final year as a math professor I had an integral calculus class that seriously didn't give a s***. Out of 44 students, 4 of them were turning in homework. I gave them sample tests with solutions that were essentially exact copies of the real tests, and yet averages on those tests were in the 40's.
So 2/3 of the class was failing. And they filed a complaint against me. And won. And I was ordered to pass at least 2/3 of the class, whether or not they demonstrated any ability whatsoever to do any of the problems.
So I resigned, got picked up by a tech company, and that was all she wrote.
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Of course our system isnt perfect. Since 55 gets you a passing grade, we have what we call 60% culture'.
Doing just good enough to pass, as a better grade doesnt matter in a lot of cases (unless you want to get into a numerous fixus study).
This causes a lot of underperformimg.
working smarter, not harder; or is hard work just for suckers?
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Well, I have two separate instances that indicate the delicacy of grading:
In my undergraduate years at U.C. Berkeley I had an upper-division Quantum Mechanics class that was graded on a full curve, and taught by a man who I'm sure was brilliant, but who had no business whatsoever teaching students. His lectures were incomprehensible, and the book had nothing to do with what he taught.
So most of us just skipped class and only showed up to the tests. I learned nothing whatsoever. Seriously. I just drew a few doodles, rewrote the problems, and made some random mathematical stuff that had nothing to do with the problem. Yet partial credit got me to a whopping 28% in the class.
Which was a B+.
Not only did I pass a class in which I learned nothing, but I got an above-average grade due to excessive curving.
On the other hand, in my final year as a math professor I had an integral calculus class that seriously didn't give a s***. Out of 44 students, 4 of them were turning in homework. I gave them sample tests with solutions that were essentially exact copies of the real tests, and yet averages on those tests were in the 40's.
So 2/3 of the class was failing. And they filed a complaint against me. And won. And I was ordered to pass at least 2/3 of the class, whether or not they demonstrated any ability whatsoever to do any of the problems.
So I resigned, got picked up by a tech company, and that was all she wrote.
The first example is exactly what happened in every one of the classes taught by the head of the biology department where I spent my first couple years of college.
The second example reminds me of something that happened to my ex-wife. She was working in a school district where they sent home a mid-semester letter if the student was getting a D or F. Kid was getting a C, so she didn't send a letter. Kid then went on to intentionally not turn in a single assignment or take a test. Flat zeros for the second half of the semester. She failed him. She was then informed by the principal that she wasn't allowed to fail the student because she hadn't sent home a mid-semester letter informing the parents he was in danger of failing the class.
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At my high school the grade splits were harsh and uneven.
94-100 A
87-93 B
78-86 C
70-77 D
0-69 FWat...how...I don't...why...who came up with this letter-scheme?!
*left eye twitches uncontrollably*
Six points
Six points
Eight points
Seven points
Internet joke involving “bear” druids and succcubi?I mean, obviously, TS...
Technically it's actually 7 points, 7 points, 9 points, 8 points. I mean really Tac, I thought you were a math guy. ;)
Also, why is there a half-line between 'six points' and 'six points,' and why can't I eliminate it?!
*right eye twitches uncontrollably*
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Off to the land of Gran for the afternoon.
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At my high school the grade splits were harsh and uneven.
94-100 A
87-93 B
78-86 C
70-77 D
0-69 FWat...how...I don't...why...who came up with this letter-scheme?!
*left eye twitches uncontrollably*
Six points
Six points
Eight points
Seven points
Internet joke involving “bear” druids and succcubi?I mean, obviously, TS...
Technically it's actually 7 points, 7 points, 9 points, 8 points. I mean really Tac, I thought you were a math guy. ;)
Also, why is there a half-line between 'six points' and 'six points,' and why can't I eliminate it?!
*right eye twitches uncontrollably*
Just because I’m doing math on a bus with a child asking me “What’s this?!” every two seconds, trying to text with folk, AND playing Pokémon GO, you’re trying to suggest that I’m not focused or something?!
(Because I’m not - and that’s before favoring ADD...)
EDIT: Also...
No pressure, or anything, but I just want to tell you... good luck, and we're all counting on you.
Come on - I basically have to:
Off to the land of Gran for the afternoon.
No pressure, or anything, but I just want to tell you... good luck, and we're all counting on you.
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Well, I have two separate instances that indicate the delicacy of grading:
In my undergraduate years at U.C. Berkeley I had an upper-division Quantum Mechanics class that was graded on a full curve, and taught by a man who I'm sure was brilliant, but who had no business whatsoever teaching students. His lectures were incomprehensible, and the book had nothing to do with what he taught.
So most of us just skipped class and only showed up to the tests. I learned nothing whatsoever. Seriously. I just drew a few doodles, rewrote the problems, and made some random mathematical stuff that had nothing to do with the problem. Yet partial credit got me to a whopping 28% in the class.
Which was a B+.
Not only did I pass a class in which I learned nothing, but I got an above-average grade due to excessive curving.
On the other hand, in my final year as a math professor I had an integral calculus class that seriously didn't give a s***. Out of 44 students, 4 of them were turning in homework. I gave them sample tests with solutions that were essentially exact copies of the real tests, and yet averages on those tests were in the 40's.
So 2/3 of the class was failing. And they filed a complaint against me. And won. And I was ordered to pass at least 2/3 of the class, whether or not they demonstrated any ability whatsoever to do any of the problems.
So I resigned, got picked up by a tech company, and that was all she wrote.
i would love to hear something from the side of the students, if only out of a sense of fairness. While I have encountered teachers so hated that the majority of the class had no problem tanking their gpa to stick it to that professor in the name of vengeance, I have a VERY hard time seeing Nobodyshome as one of those professors.
Then again, he DOES teach math. And out of that same sense of fairness, I have yet to encounter an entire class that was as awful as the teacher said they were- although I have met individual students that were.
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It seems there are a few situations where curved grades arise.
To Compensate for Inherent Subjectivity: I'm sympathetic to a certain amount of curving, especially when it comes to newbie teachers and more subjective subjects like language and visual arts. Ideally though, objective subjects like math ought to strive for objective standards. There are always logistical complications to large-scale standards though.
To Compensate for Poor Teachers & Unrealistic Expectations: Both colleges I graduated from curved as a matter of course, and it was especially pervasive in the engineering program. The program is cram-packed with courses which are all cram-packed with material -- engineering should really be an extended program like medicine, but cultural expectations are in the way -- and one professor in particular was brilliant but has no idea how to teach.
To Compensate for Lazy Students: Never experienced this myself, but I can totally see it, particularly in cultures of 'My parents are paying your salary so I know you'll pass me or lose your job.'
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At my high school the grade splits were harsh and uneven.
94-100 A
87-93 B
78-86 C
70-77 D
0-69 FWat...how...I don't...why...who came up with this letter-scheme?!
*left eye twitches uncontrollably*
a math teacher, in all probability.
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Now, to waste time watching Detriot: Become Human play-throughs...
Edit: great game, btw. If you have an PS4, you should definitely get it. meanwhile, I'll be wishing it would come out for switch use...
The Kara/Alice story-line has me smiling like a loon...
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a math teacher, in all probability.At my high school the grade splits were harsh and uneven.
94-100 A
87-93 B
78-86 C
70-77 D
0-69 FWat...how...I don't...why...who came up with this letter-scheme?!
*left eye twitches uncontrollably*
But... it’s so mathematically ugly.
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Yep... so many kids who are so much smarter than their work shows because they know they can just skate through on a C. I'm sure this won't backfire horribly when they start looking at college...or trying to start a career with their horrible work habits leaned on for years...Of course our system isnt perfect. Since 55 gets you a passing grade, we have what we call 60% culture'.
Doing just good enough to pass, as a better grade doesnt matter in a lot of cases (unless you want to get into a numerous fixus study).
This causes a lot of underperformimg.
is this sloth or knowing how the game is played?
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is this sloth or knowing how the game is played?Yep... so many kids who are so much smarter than their work shows because they know they can just skate through on a C. I'm sure this won't backfire horribly when they start looking at college...or trying to start a career with their horrible work habits leaned on for years...Of course our system isnt perfect. Since 55 gets you a passing grade, we have what we call 60% culture'.
Doing just good enough to pass, as a better grade doesnt matter in a lot of cases (unless you want to get into a numerous fixus study).
This causes a lot of underperformimg.
“Hurting your future career.”
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i would love to hear something from the side of the students, if only out of a sense of fairness. While I have encountered teachers so hated that the majority of the class had no problem tanking their gpa to stick it to that professor in the name of vengeance, I have a VERY hard time seeing Nobodyshome as one of those professors.
Then again, he DOES teach math. And out of that same sense of fairness, I have yet to encounter an entire class that was as awful as the teacher said they were- although I have met individual students that were.
I studied philosophy in a rather second or third-rate college*. I can believe having over 2/3rd of a group being awful because of combination of stupidity, not caring, and being lazy.
*grading of colleges is complicated here
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...i would love to hear something from the side of the students, if only out of a sense of fairness. While I have encountered teachers so hated that the majority of the class had no problem tanking their gpa to stick it to that professor in the name of vengeance, I have a VERY hard time seeing Nobodyshome as one of those professors.
Then again, he DOES teach math. And out of that same sense of fairness, I have yet to encounter an entire class that was as awful as the teacher said they were- although I have met individual students that were.
Well, it's been 18 years, so good luck with that!
But keep in mind that I had been teaching successfully for EIGHT YEARS before that class. It wasn't that I had a bad relationship with classes (2nd-highest rated teacher by students), with peers (2nd-highest rated teacher by peers), or with that particular school (no issues whatsoever with any other class).
It was easily the most frustrating, most bizarre class I've ever taught. Whether it was a personality conflict, a twist of fate, or what-have-you, they had no desire whatsoever to learn from me.
I've never seen anything like it before or since.
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All kinds of tired, today. Why? Although I said that I sleep until 10:00, I was rudely awakened by receiving a face-full of sunlight at 8:00. *Grumble* Stupid sunlight has no respect for those that work late. *Grumble*
Curtains! Curtains for you!
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Why would you put a privacy hedge of arborvitae facing the woods, like right up against them.
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...i would love to hear something from the side of the students, if only out of a sense of fairness. While I have encountered teachers so hated that the majority of the class had no problem tanking their gpa to stick it to that professor in the name of vengeance, I have a VERY hard time seeing Nobodyshome as one of those professors.
Then again, he DOES teach math. And out of that same sense of fairness, I have yet to encounter an entire class that was as awful as the teacher said they were- although I have met individual students that were.
Well, it's been 18 years, so good luck with that!
But keep in mind that I had been teaching successfully for EIGHT YEARS before that class. It wasn't that I had a bad relationship with classes (2nd-highest rated teacher by students), with peers (2nd-highest rated teacher by peers), or with that particular school (no issues whatsoever with any other class).
It was easily the most frustrating, most bizarre class I've ever taught. Whether it was a personality conflict, a twist of fate, or what-have-you, they had no desire whatsoever to learn from me.
I've never seen anything like it before or since.
mm.
Interesting.
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The trees have eyes and ears my friends.
The trees!!!
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So, since I think Woran's question is worth discussing, here's a concrete example. Except it involves math, so I'll hide it from Freehold and Mort.
** spoiler omitted **
So I would argue that an arbitrary "90-100% is an A, no matter the teacher, the difficulty of the test, nor how the teacher gives partial credit" is far more arbitrary and baffling than a curve.
Generally, teachers here dont make a test all by themselves. If you have 4 teachers that teach basic math in year one, they generally come together to make a test (or each makes a few questions, and they review each others questions at least).
If the first semester covered probability theory and calculus, the test would cover both subjects. Each subject might get 10 questions. It would start with a simple question, covering the very basics of the subject you leaned when you first started the subject, and progress to more dificult questions.Easy questions are generally worth less points. But starting easy helps students settle into the test, and might jog their memory.
Of course, you get points for getting the right answer. But also for using the right formulas, and demonstrating all the steps in between. Even if you get the answer wrong, but used the right formula and demonstrated that you know the steps, you get a good amount of points.
It might seem pretty harsh, but letting someone pass based on a curve wont do them favors for their end exams. The subjects covered in the end exams is know. Its a teachers duty to prepare students for them. A harsh grade on a certain subject hopefully motivates the student to study that subject better. Maybe seek a tutor, or use their study hours in school to seek help from a teacher.
I myself wasnt that good in math. I absolutely sucked at probability theory. But I rocked in 3D graphs. So those subjects evened out.
I rocked in biology however. Eventually getting a 99. I was very proud of that 99. I earned that by studying hard, asking questions and applying myself. Not because the test was adjusted because others could not be bothered or were just worse at it then I was.
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Why would you put a privacy hedge of arborvitae facing the woods, like right up against them.
Those deers are nosy @ssholes.
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It seems there are a few situations where curved grades arise.
To Compensate for Inherent Subjectivity: I'm sympathetic to a certain amount of curving, especially when it comes to newbie teachers and more subjective subjects like language and visual arts. Ideally though, objective subjects like math ought to strive for objective standards. There are always logistical complications to large-scale standards though.
To Compensate for Poor Teachers & Unrealistic Expectations: Both colleges I graduated from curved as a matter of course, and it was especially pervasive in the engineering program. The program is cram-packed with courses which are all cram-packed with material -- engineering should really be an extended program like medicine, but cultural expectations are in the way -- and one professor in particular was brilliant but has no idea how to teach.
To Compensate for Lazy Students: Never experienced this myself, but I can totally see it, particularly in cultures of 'My parents are paying your salary so I know you'll pass me or lose your job.'
How is language subjective? Sure, there can be many synonyms for something. But most of it is learning words and building vocabulary.
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All kinds of tired, today. Why? Although I said that I sleep until 10:00, I was rudely awakened by receiving a face-full of sunlight at 8:00. *Grumble* Stupid sunlight has no respect for those that work late. *Grumble*Curtains! Curtains for you!
I have curtains, but that d!ckhole sun gets into my room anyway. One of these days I'm going to take a staple-gun to those curtain edges.
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How is language subjective? Sure, there can be many synonyms for something. But most of it is learning words and building vocabulary.It seems there are a few situations where curved grades arise.
To Compensate for Inherent Subjectivity: I'm sympathetic to a certain amount of curving, especially when it comes to newbie teachers and more subjective subjects like language and visual arts. Ideally though, objective subjects like math ought to strive for objective standards. There are always logistical complications to large-scale standards though.
To Compensate for Poor Teachers & Unrealistic Expectations: Both colleges I graduated from curved as a matter of course, and it was especially pervasive in the engineering program. The program is cram-packed with courses which are all cram-packed with material -- engineering should really be an extended program like medicine, but cultural expectations are in the way -- and one professor in particular was brilliant but has no idea how to teach.
To Compensate for Lazy Students: Never experienced this myself, but I can totally see it, particularly in cultures of 'My parents are paying your salary so I know you'll pass me or lose your job.'
In this sense, language, or rather language arts, often includes literary analysis - identify and argue in favor of a theme. The language itself is quite objective. It's using language to effectively support a subjective opinion.
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as I always wonder in such enviornments, which is more important- knowing how to make the system work for you or how to work for the system?I'm seriously considering weighting my English grades this coming year. I had way too many kids who would do all their homework (almost certainly copied from/"worked on together with" a classmate) so they could turn in a subpar summative essay/project and skate out with a higher grade. One of my kids turned in just enough of a final project to merit a 25% (1s across the board on a 4-pt rubric) with a broad grin because he knew it wouldn't bring him down enough to fail.
But I'm leery of doing so from my old school, where we had a mandatory 80/20 weight with the opposite problem - the kids knew they didn't need the homework to pass, so barely anyone ever did it. Which, of course, led to them failing because they hadn't mastered the skills practiced in the homework being assessed on the projects and tests...
I just want to make them care about the quality of their work.
Ideally? Happy medium.
Yes, a lot of school assignments are simply practice of concept that some students really don't actually need because they already understand the skills being trained. However, it's not like a job is going to let you cherry-pick which assignments to do, and learning to just get the schoolwork done and done right is good training for that. If you have spent your entire life doing nothing that doesn't enrapture and entertain you at every moment, you are likely to have no ability to work on something mundane and have developed no patience to get through those rough patches.
These kids are going to discover when they get to the workforce that no one likes the guy who has figured out how to game the system to get away with the bare minimum because they know someone else will carry their lazy butt.
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I have curtains, but that d!ckhole sun gets into my room anyway. One of these days I'm going to take a staple-gun to those curtain edges.All kinds of tired, today. Why? Although I said that I sleep until 10:00, I was rudely awakened by receiving a face-full of sunlight at 8:00. *Grumble* Stupid sunlight has no respect for those that work late. *Grumble*Curtains! Curtains for you!
Comforters, sun won't make it through.
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In this sense, language, or rather language arts, often includes literary analysis - identify and argue in favor of a theme. The language itself is quite objective. It's using language to effectively support a subjective opinion.How is language subjective? Sure, there can be many synonyms for something. But most of it is learning words and building vocabulary.It seems there are a few situations where curved grades arise.
To Compensate for Inherent Subjectivity: I'm sympathetic to a certain amount of curving, especially when it comes to newbie teachers and more subjective subjects like language and visual arts. Ideally though, objective subjects like math ought to strive for objective standards. There are always logistical complications to large-scale standards though.
To Compensate for Poor Teachers & Unrealistic Expectations: Both colleges I graduated from curved as a matter of course, and it was especially pervasive in the engineering program. The program is cram-packed with courses which are all cram-packed with material -- engineering should really be an extended program like medicine, but cultural expectations are in the way -- and one professor in particular was brilliant but has no idea how to teach.
To Compensate for Lazy Students: Never experienced this myself, but I can totally see it, particularly in cultures of 'My parents are paying your salary so I know you'll pass me or lose your job.'
Ah, I understand better now, thank you.
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“Hurting your future career.”is this sloth or knowing how the game is played?Yep... so many kids who are so much smarter than their work shows because they know they can just skate through on a C. I'm sure this won't backfire horribly when they start looking at college...or trying to start a career with their horrible work habits leaned on for years...Of course our system isnt perfect. Since 55 gets you a passing grade, we have what we call 60% culture'.
Doing just good enough to pass, as a better grade doesnt matter in a lot of cases (unless you want to get into a numerous fixus study).
This causes a lot of underperformimg.
Pretty much this.
The kids all roll their eyes when I say it, but habitual laziness is not an easy switch to flip. Turning in barely-acceptable final products is not going to make any positive impact on professors or employers, and the children who insist that they will simply "start caring later" are also the children who give me no indication that they have the slightest idea of how to care at all. I hope for their sakes that they're right, that they can just suddenly start putting forth effort for quality output. But...
If it was truly knowing how the system worked, they'd understand that they at least need to grind some XP along the way if they don't want to end up getting absolutely wrecked by reality...
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as I always wonder in such enviornments, which is more important- knowing how to make the system work for you or how to work for the system?I'm seriously considering weighting my English grades this coming year. I had way too many kids who would do all their homework (almost certainly copied from/"worked on together with" a classmate) so they could turn in a subpar summative essay/project and skate out with a higher grade. One of my kids turned in just enough of a final project to merit a 25% (1s across the board on a 4-pt rubric) with a broad grin because he knew it wouldn't bring him down enough to fail.
But I'm leery of doing so from my old school, where we had a mandatory 80/20 weight with the opposite problem - the kids knew they didn't need the homework to pass, so barely anyone ever did it. Which, of course, led to them failing because they hadn't mastered the skills practiced in the homework being assessed on the projects and tests...
I just want to make them care about the quality of their work.
Ideally? Happy medium.
Yes, a lot of school assignments are simply practice of concept that some students really don't actually need because they already understand the skills being trained. However, it's not like a job is going to let you cherry-pick which assignments to do, and learning to just get the schoolwork done and done right is good training for that. If you have spent your entire life doing nothing that doesn't enrapture and entertain you at every moment, you are likely to have no ability to work on something mundane and have developed no patience to get through those rough patches.
These kids are going to discover when they get to the workforce that no one likes the guy who has figured out how to game the system to get away with the bare minimum because they know someone else will carry their lazy butt.
straight out of the tough-but-fair-teacher handbook.
That said, delegation is an incredibly important skill, and I know incredibly successful people who have built entire careers out of their ability to do the least amount of work possible and get paid for it.
Or is charisma simply not a dump stat? Hm...