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My above average-ness remains just that, it seems.


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Of course.


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Okay. I'm at work now, eating a sandwich and a vegetable tray ( Carrots, Celery, Broccoli, and Cauliflower ). I should be good until about 10 - 11 PM.


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lisamarlene wrote:
Seriously. There was a study, which proved a bit embarrassing to the Germans. Standard sizing was a bit roomy on the average German male. Google it.

What was that old German saying?

"If you can't fit it in a thimble, then you aren't very nimble!"

I think that's it...


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Tacticslion wrote:

I would hear more of your words and perhaps subscribe to your newsletter.

In other words, this sounds interesting, and I'd like to know more?
Tequila Sunrise wrote:

Oh, it's the project I've been working on for years. Basically I love 3e, but as an essentially classic vision of D&D, it has many many quirks that get under my skin. You could say it's a love-hate relationship. :)

(When I say 3e, I mean 3.0, 3.5, PF, and FC.)

What I think is 3e’s shining contribution to D&D is its approach to multiclassing. I.e., each class is a set of building blocks, and players are allowed to mix and match those building blocks however they want. It’s an amazing compromise between pure class-based games and pure classless games: beer n pretzels Joe can write ‘Fighter X’ on his character sheet, pick a weapon, and start gaming. While improv character actor Arty can craft his Fighter X/Rogue Y/Wizard Z with his unique backstory.

The execution leaves a lot to be desired of course, but getting 3e-style multiclassing to work really well is a holy grail of mine.

Ah! Cool! Sounds like a really awesome concept! I know multiclassing was a really big thing in 3E, but my favorite part about multiclassing was achieving PrCs. Though they've fallen out of favor, I really liked the concept a lot.

But if you manage a balanced progression around basic building blocks that also permits single-classing as a viable and easy thing, then... yes, please!


Tequila Sunrise wrote:
It's funny, D&D history is full of all kinds of caster themes, from those who get their spells from gods to those who are basically fantasy scientists. But the psionist is the only caster that fills the theme of "I get my magic from extreme practice and discipline."
Tacticslion wrote:

Yuuuusssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

I heart them sssssssooooooo mucccchhhh

I’m curious, what role do you see psionists filling in the game world? I ask because while I’ve never had a problem with psionics, I largely see it as a means of introducing non-vancian spells to the game.

Last night I was trying to visualize them in the game world, and I imagined them being mystic-types who train on mountaintop monasteries like Li Mu Bai from Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. Or any remote locale where there are no distractions from the discipline of self-awareness. Except instead of becoming crazy kung fu sword-warrior badasses, they become crazy magical badasses who can summon fireballs with a wink.

Was going to go into this, but I'm outta time, so I'm not!

... for now! But reposting it so I can find it easily later!


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Syrus Terrigan wrote:


RE: the Doomsphere -- Patrick Stewart voice: Excellent work, Mr. Napier. The tactical station is yours.

Aye, sir.


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Jesse Heinig wrote:
Ooo you have an opening and a chance to be in the same game with Chromantic Durgon <3? May I make a pitch? :D

Someone said this today and it may be the proudest moment of my life. Definitely tops the diss xD


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OK, CrunchyRoll, I forgive you... for now.

Was relaxing after my lunch salad-and-walk-in-the-stupid-heat-and-wind and going through the Popular list.

And there was RWBY, without having to deal with YouTube's utterly atrocious interface, nor trying to get my TV to access the RoosterTeeth web site.

I can watch RWBY episodes in order, as they come out, without having to search for them.

Thanks, CrunchyRoll!


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Ok. Now I'm taking a perverse glee in playing my Pandora channel until it hits a song I don't like, then turning it off for the day and switching to Impus Major's Spotify channel.

Take THAT, choice-stealers!


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NobodysHome wrote:
lynora wrote:

Had a nightmare experience at the dentist today. I had to have four fillings done and a cracked tooth prepped for a crown. Local anesthetic doesn’t work on me, so I have to be put under when I have dental work done. But they screwed up and I was only partially under. I couldn’t speak or move but I was awake and aware of everything. And when they saw I was in pain they just kept giving me useless shots and I couldn’t stop them. So not only did that happen but now my mouth hurts so much from all the shots I didn’t need because they didn’t actually work. I mean, my lip went numb, but nothing actually inside my mouth :(

I have PTSD from similar event during my c-section when the kidlet was born. Protip: don’t have surgery without working anesthetic. Pain is not an adequate description. So getting me to actually show up for anything that requires anesthetic takes some doing. Even more now. Looks like it’s back to the therapist for me. >.<

So, is it that novacaine doesn't work, or is just very, very weak?

I had some hideously painful procedures over the years because I am very, very resistant to novacaine. I finally told my new dentist, "Can we use nitrous oxide? Because novacaine doesn't work."

He just smiled, got out the syringe and a nurse, and determined that it takes 5 times the normal dosage of novacaine on me. But it did finally work.

If you're totally immune, then OMG am I sorry! I know I had some stuff I'd rather not talk about done because they just assumed I was numb...

Resurrects old topic. Sorry about that. Kinda went all the way down the rabbit hole the past few days.

It's a combination of factors for me. I'm very resistant to novocaine. It takes about four times the normal amount and at least three times the normal amount of time for it to kick in. If they happen to be lucky enough to hit the right spot. Which for some spots in my mouth would require them injecting my face right under my eye. You can't get there from inside my mouth. This kind of weirdness happens in other parts of my body too. The nerves aren't where they are 'supposed' to be. Everything works the way it should. It's just arranged differently internally. Medical and dental folks never believe that the first time around. It usually takes some disastrous procedure gone horribly wrong before they realize the depth of their mistake. :/
One of the many things about myself I wish was less "medically interesting"

Hey, I made it all the way through the post! Without crying! This is good! I'll take my victories where I can find them :P


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So I know I've tiraded about this before, but it's seriously a pet peeve of mine:

A guy walking his dog down our small, residential street, talking loudly on his cell phone (almost a given these days), and every other word he utters is an obscenity. Considering he kept calling the person at the other end "Honey", I can only assume he was talking to his significant other.

But if you swear THAT much:

  • Your obscenities lose all impact. If I use an obscenity, my kids know there's trouble. When he does it, it's just another normal conversation.
  • Speaking of which, MythBusters did a great episode that proved that uttering a string of invectives was effective in reducing pain. If you've got no invectives that you don't use every day, how are they going to be any better than saying, "Banana" over and over again? (And that was one of the controls -- trying to use non-swear words in the same way.)
  • How are you going to turn it off during a job interview? As I and others have noted, when you're on a hiring committee, the first obscenity is usually an, "Oh, I hope that was a mistake," moment, while the second is, "OK, this interview is over."
    I don't know of a place you can work where you can get away with swearing during your job interview. (OK. Maybe stand-up comic.)
  • It's just classless. I mean, c'mon! You're in a neighborhood full of kids and families, and you're bringing that here? Get some class, dude!
  • If I were a less-cautious person, I'd take the hose to him.


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    lynora wrote:

    Resurrects old topic. Sorry about that. Kinda went all the way down the rabbit hole the past few days.

    It's a combination of factors for me. I'm very resistant to novocaine. It takes about four times the normal amount and at least three times the normal amount of time for it to kick in. If they happen to be lucky enough to hit the right spot. Which for some spots in my mouth would require them injecting my face right under my eye. You can't get there from inside my mouth. This kind of weirdness happens in other parts of my body too. The nerves aren't where they are 'supposed' to be. Everything works the way it should. It's just arranged differently internally. Medical and dental folks never believe that the first time around. It usually takes some disastrous procedure gone horribly wrong before they realize the depth of their mistake. :/
    One of the many things about myself I wish was less "medically interesting"

    Hey, I made it all the way through the post! Without crying! This is good! I'll take my victories where I can find them :P

    Hugs.

    Tries to buy her something from her wishlist. Some dirtbag already beat him to it. Oh, wait...


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    NobodysHome wrote:

    Ok. Now I'm taking a perverse glee in playing my Pandora channel until it hits a song I don't like, then turning it off for the day and switching to Impus Major's Spotify channel.

    Take THAT, choice-stealers!

    Erm...isn't that what the thumbs-down button is for?


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    Tequila Sunrise wrote:
    NobodysHome wrote:

    Ok. Now I'm taking a perverse glee in playing my Pandora channel until it hits a song I don't like, then turning it off for the day and switching to Impus Major's Spotify channel.

    Take THAT, choice-stealers!

    Erm...isn't that what the thumbs-down button is for?

    You missed the part where Pandora disabled it on me because I'd used it too often.

    Grand Lodge

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    I’ve been trying to control my barracks language, but it slips out sometimes. I find that working on group norms is the big thing. I do really well in company that expects polite language, but get me with my old platoon mates and the floodgates open.


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    NobodysHome wrote:

    So I know I've tiraded about this before, but it's seriously a pet peeve of mine:

    A guy walking his dog down our small, residential street, talking loudly on his cell phone (almost a given these days), and every other word he utters is an obscenity. Considering he kept calling the person at the other end "Honey", I can only assume he was talking to his significant other.

    But if you swear THAT much:

  • Your obscenities lose all impact. If I use an obscenity, my kids know there's trouble. When he does it, it's just another normal conversation.
  • Speaking of which, MythBusters did a great episode that proved that uttering a string of invectives was effective in reducing pain. If you've got no invectives that you don't use every day, how are they going to be any better than saying, "Banana" over and over again? (And that was one of the controls -- trying to use non-swear words in the same way.)
  • How are you going to turn it off during a job interview? As I and others have noted, when you're on a hiring committee, the first obscenity is usually an, "Oh, I hope that was a mistake," moment, while the second is, "OK, this interview is over."
    I don't know of a place you can work where you can get away with swearing during your job interview. (OK. Maybe stand-up comic.)
  • It's just classless. I mean, c'mon! You're in a neighborhood full of kids and families, and you're bringing that here? Get some class, dude!
  • If I were a less-cautious person, I'd take the hose to him.

    Perhaps his life is so painful he needs to constantly swear.


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    TriOmegaZero wrote:
    I’ve been trying to control my barracks language, but it slips out sometimes. I find that working on group norms is the big thing. I do really well in company that expects polite language, but get me with my old platoon mates and the floodgates open.

    Yeah, but I'm going to just hazard a guess that you don't do it while walking the dog in your neighborhood. What people do in their own living rooms is no business of mine...

    ...at least until I can figure out where NobodysWife hid my binoculars.


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    Vidmaster7 wrote:
    gran rey de los mono wrote:
    In a few years, I bet there'll be a mandatory college course called "Eye Contact 101".
    They need it now in my opinion. I am not a constant fidget on phone person but I would go out places with people in college and you couldn't have a conversation with people cause they'd be looking down on their phones or talking to you while looking at their laps.

    Pfft. It's like a five minute seminar at best. Turn your body towards the person talking and keep your gaze in the general vicinity of their eyebrows. Alternate occasionally to look at the nose or ear so you appear attentive but not creepy. They want you to look at them, not stare at them. People who take knowing how to do eye contact correctly for granted always explain it wrong. If you actually stare at people's eyes it creeps them out. ;P

    Yeah, I know, not what you meant, but what good is the Internet if you can't make jokes by interpreting things too literally? ;P
    Plus I'm way too used to having to teach basic human interaction to kid(s) who don't pick up on it without having things explicitly explained. Fun times. And all these years of observing human behavior finally pay off! :)


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    lynora wrote:

    And all these years of observing human behavior finally pay off! :)

    Ah, yes. Fellow human. We have also been observing human behavior for similar reasons.

    >.>


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    Tacticslion wrote:

    Ah! Cool! Sounds like a really awesome concept! I know multiclassing was a really big thing in 3E, but my favorite part about multiclassing was achieving PrCs. Though they've fallen out of favor, I really liked the concept a lot.

    But if you manage a balanced progression around basic building blocks that also permits single-classing as a viable and easy thing, then... yes, please!

    I agree, prestige classes are really kool, at least in concept. They're something to work toward, to be proud of when you finally qualify. The two problems they suffer from is:

    1. The prerequisites that often all but demand that players plan for this or that PrC from level 1, and that heavily feed into the general system mastery issue.

    and

    2. Very much like base classes themselves, there was never any consistent vision of what a PrC is supposed to be. I think originally PrCs were supposed to represent in-game institutions, but that didn't last long. Quite a few of them exist to fill in gaps left by base classes -- eldritch knight, mystic theurge. Many PrCs grant unique abilities which diversify any character, but some of them are basically Base Class X, TURNED UP TO 11!!! (Red wizard, radiant servant) And then there are PrCs that ought to have been labeled NPC ONLY -- frenzied berserker, occult slayer, hulking hurler.

    I guess what I'm saying is that I really like PrCs too, but they're going to take some work. :)


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    NobodysHome wrote:
    lynora wrote:

    Resurrects old topic. Sorry about that. Kinda went all the way down the rabbit hole the past few days.

    It's a combination of factors for me. I'm very resistant to novocaine. It takes about four times the normal amount and at least three times the normal amount of time for it to kick in. If they happen to be lucky enough to hit the right spot. Which for some spots in my mouth would require them injecting my face right under my eye. You can't get there from inside my mouth. This kind of weirdness happens in other parts of my body too. The nerves aren't where they are 'supposed' to be. Everything works the way it should. It's just arranged differently internally. Medical and dental folks never believe that the first time around. It usually takes some disastrous procedure gone horribly wrong before they realize the depth of their mistake. :/
    One of the many things about myself I wish was less "medically interesting"

    Hey, I made it all the way through the post! Without crying! This is good! I'll take my victories where I can find them :P

    Hugs.

    Tries to buy her something from her wishlist. Some dirtbag already beat him to it. Oh, wait...

    Thanks. :)

    And if you have to be hiding under the covers, it does help to have a book about dragons to read while doing it. :)


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    NobodysHome wrote:
    Tequila Sunrise wrote:
    NobodysHome wrote:

    Ok. Now I'm taking a perverse glee in playing my Pandora channel until it hits a song I don't like, then turning it off for the day and switching to Impus Major's Spotify channel.

    Take THAT, choice-stealers!

    Erm...isn't that what the thumbs-down button is for?
    You missed the part where Pandora disabled it on me because I'd used it too often.

    Permanently? Dam, I think you started with the wrong station seed. ;)


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    lynora wrote:
    Vidmaster7 wrote:
    gran rey de los mono wrote:
    In a few years, I bet there'll be a mandatory college course called "Eye Contact 101".
    They need it now in my opinion. I am not a constant fidget on phone person but I would go out places with people in college and you couldn't have a conversation with people cause they'd be looking down on their phones or talking to you while looking at their laps.

    Pfft. It's like a five minute seminar at best. Turn your body towards the person talking and keep your gaze in the general vicinity of their eyebrows. Alternate occasionally to look at the nose or ear so you appear attentive but not creepy. They want you to look at them, not stare at them. People who take knowing how to do eye contact correctly for granted always explain it wrong. If you actually stare at people's eyes it creeps them out. ;P

    Yeah, I know, not what you meant, but what good is the Internet if you can't make jokes by interpreting things too literally? ;P
    Plus I'm way too used to having to teach basic human interaction to kid(s) who don't pick up on it without having things explicitly explained. Fun times. And all these years of observing human behavior finally pay off! :)

    That actually makes me rather happy -- I never look people in the eyes. I think it's creepy. The only time I ever did was when I was fighting them. I always look "in the general direction of their face". And no one's ever called me out on it, but everyone talks about, "If he won't make eye contact, he's untrustworthy."

    Which isn't fun for a Lawful person to hear...


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    Tequila Sunrise wrote:
    NobodysHome wrote:
    Tequila Sunrise wrote:
    NobodysHome wrote:

    Ok. Now I'm taking a perverse glee in playing my Pandora channel until it hits a song I don't like, then turning it off for the day and switching to Impus Major's Spotify channel.

    Take THAT, choice-stealers!

    Erm...isn't that what the thumbs-down button is for?
    You missed the part where Pandora disabled it on me because I'd used it too often.
    Permanently? Dam, I think you started with the wrong station seed. ;)

    What happened was that there are a handful of Disney songs I like. The one from Moana and (feel free to hurl rocks and stones) "Let it Go".

    But add ONE Disney song to a Pandora list and be prepared to listen to EVERY DISNEY SONG EVER RECORDED, 95% of which I hate.

    So yeah, I thumbs-downed. A LOT.

    (I also despise remixes, so that probably got me my first 100...)


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    I hate prestige classes, personally.

    Most of them require too much planning and are too niche for my tastes.


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    lynora wrote:
    Vidmaster7 wrote:
    gran rey de los mono wrote:
    In a few years, I bet there'll be a mandatory college course called "Eye Contact 101".
    They need it now in my opinion. I am not a constant fidget on phone person but I would go out places with people in college and you couldn't have a conversation with people cause they'd be looking down on their phones or talking to you while looking at their laps.

    Pfft. It's like a five minute seminar at best. Turn your body towards the person talking and keep your gaze in the general vicinity of their eyebrows. Alternate occasionally to look at the nose or ear so you appear attentive but not creepy. They want you to look at them, not stare at them. People who take knowing how to do eye contact correctly for granted always explain it wrong. If you actually stare at people's eyes it creeps them out. ;P

    Yeah, I know, not what you meant, but what good is the Internet if you can't make jokes by interpreting things too literally? ;P
    Plus I'm way too used to having to teach basic human interaction to kid(s) who don't pick up on it without having things explicitly explained. Fun times. And all these years of observing human behavior finally pay off! :)

    ..due to work I look directly into eyes...


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    I swear a lot at work xD didn't in the interview though.

    But I work in a citizens advice centre, there are a lot of stupid questions to swear about.


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    *hugs lynora*


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    Lynora, check your pm


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    NobodysHome wrote:
    lynora wrote:
    Vidmaster7 wrote:
    gran rey de los mono wrote:
    In a few years, I bet there'll be a mandatory college course called "Eye Contact 101".
    They need it now in my opinion. I am not a constant fidget on phone person but I would go out places with people in college and you couldn't have a conversation with people cause they'd be looking down on their phones or talking to you while looking at their laps.

    Pfft. It's like a five minute seminar at best. Turn your body towards the person talking and keep your gaze in the general vicinity of their eyebrows. Alternate occasionally to look at the nose or ear so you appear attentive but not creepy. They want you to look at them, not stare at them. People who take knowing how to do eye contact correctly for granted always explain it wrong. If you actually stare at people's eyes it creeps them out. ;P

    Yeah, I know, not what you meant, but what good is the Internet if you can't make jokes by interpreting things too literally? ;P
    Plus I'm way too used to having to teach basic human interaction to kid(s) who don't pick up on it without having things explicitly explained. Fun times. And all these years of observing human behavior finally pay off! :)

    That actually makes me rather happy -- I never look people in the eyes. I think it's creepy. The only time I ever did was when I was fighting them. I always look "in the general direction of their face". And no one's ever called me out on it, but everyone talks about, "If he won't make eye contact, he's untrustworthy."

    Which isn't fun for a Lawful person to hear...

    Yeah, most of the time when people talk about eye contact they actually just mean that they want the other person to look at their face, which makes sense since you need to see facial expression and body language to really understand what they're communicating. Actually looking at someone's eyes outside of certain contexts (romantically involved or specifically communicating seriousness/intensity) is weird. But it's always fun to observe the gap between what people think they do and what they actually do. ^.^


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    NobodysHome wrote:

    What happened was that there are a handful of Disney songs I like. The one from Moana and (feel free to hurl rocks and stones) "Let it Go".

    But add ONE Disney song to a Pandora list and be prepared to listen to EVERY DISNEY SONG EVER RECORDED, 95% of which I hate.

    So yeah, I thumbs-downed. A LOT.

    (I also despise remixes, so that probably got me my first 100...)

    OK fair enough.

    Lately my station will play something from the new live action Beauty and the Beast, and I'll be like "Sure, this is a fun song, I'll let it play." And then it will play the same song from the original film. And then one from The Little Mermaid. And then one from the Lion King. And then...

    And I like most of them. But yeah, fair enough.


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    My cat is jealous of the attention I'm giving to the computer and keeps trying to eat the fresh flowers on my desk so I'll pay attention to him instead. Darn if it isn't working....he got like five minutes of chin scritchies out of that ploy....darn cat, training me when I'm not paying attention...;P


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    Chromantic Durgon <3 wrote:

    I swear a lot at work xD didn't in the interview though.

    But I work in a citizens advice centre, there are a lot of stupid questions to swear about.

    I do not swear at work, at all.

    Something about working around children.


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    I only swear when I'm *this* close to seriously hurting someone.


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    John Napier 698 wrote:
    I only swear when I'm *this* close to seriously hurting someone.

    So that is almost all the time?


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    No. Most of the time, almost all the time, in fact, I'm fairly calm. The only time I was pushed to that point was when someone messed with my bank account earlier this year.


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    I make up new and interesting curses. Some of which are really filthy. But no-one here will hear me say them unless it is a moment of passion and they are into hearing interesting filth come out of the mouth of their intimate partner.


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    I wonder if the Pandora business model includes being paid to push certain content by the record labels. Or does Disney, for example, own a chunk of Pandora, so that they can tell Pandora to push Disney songs?

    If that is the case, then they may not mind losing a few subscriptions because the offsetting income from the content providers makes up for the 1-5 grumpy nobodies that have used the thumbs down too many times.


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    Nylarthotep wrote:

    I wonder if the Pandora business model includes being paid to push certain content by the record labels. Or does Disney, for example, own a chunk of Pandora, so that they can tell Pandora to push Disney songs?

    If that is the case, then they may not mind losing a few subscriptions because the offsetting income from the content providers makes up for the 1-5 grumpy nobodies that have used the thumbs down too many times.

    I suspect you're right. I had issues with the remixes, and even contacted customer support (and they responded with, "Hey, a 'No Remixes' button is a good idea, isn't it?"), and the number of remixes I got plummeted.

    But the moment I started thumbs-downing Disney stuff, I was toast...


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    OK, now I know why Shiro is a Con GM, and I'm not. His level of Evil is set on overdrive.

    As most of you know, Whingey Wizard is a case study in player entitlement: Every single one of his PCs has to be nobility, and whatever he promises you before the campaign starts about how he won't ever use it to try to get any in-game benefits means nothing; he WILL try to cram it down your throat.

    So, after my infamous, "I am retiring after this AP" e-mail, he has been exemplary in that regard; I will openly say he took it to heart and hasn't caused me any issues... until Saturday.

    As the party said goodbye to one of their NPCs (a fallen cleric), the frigging Chaotic Neutral goblin gave her 9000 g.p. to help her on her way. Whingey Wizard handed her a writ of credit against his family's estate. (An act he tried several books ago that similarly incensed me, and I told him it wouldn't be honored. EVER.)
    Then, as if to go out of his way to tick me off and to make up for lost time, "Oh, I have an agreement with my mother that she never protects herself from Scrying because she knows I might be calling. So I'm going to Scry her, because she won't have any protections up and she'll voluntarily fail her Will save."

    Oh, really?

    The family is on the run. Shiro's suggestion: Have his PC find her corpse with a half-written note: "They wanted to help me escape, but they wouldn't take me unless I accepted their protection. And I knew I couldn't, in case you wanted to get in touch with me, and..."
    ...and have the note trail off in blood there.

    Bad Shiro! No biscuit!


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    Well done, Shiro!!

    *Very* well done!!

    *applauds*


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    Very well done indeed, Shiro.


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    I forget my phone at home and work four hours, and the best you can do is 9 posts.


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    Sorry, Cap. A friend of a friend, who has brain cancer, is being moved into a Respite Care home, and will not receive treatments. It's going to be tough going for my friend.


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    I am so sorry, John. That is awful. :(


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    I am sorry to hear that, John.


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    I know. Thank you, Lynora. Thank you, Sharoth.


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    Damn. I'm sorry.


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    Thanks, Freehold.

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