Top...men...The team working on these conversions are top-notchWho?....;)
ROFLMAO
I'm so tempted to get this book.
Come on. Do it. Everybody's buying it.
Dooo eeet!
Will there be a limited amount of preoders?
The initial run is planned to be 500 copies, but if by some miracle we get more than 500 pre-orders, I'm sure we could up the initial run.
So these will be two differnt books one for pathfinder and one for the clone game right?
So these will be two differnt books one for pathfinder and one for the clone game right?
Yes.
Well I gotta say, this looks pretty cool! And for those worried about overlap, I did a comparison of the "TOH Index" post from page 4 of this thread to the monsters listed at d20pfsrd.com, and here is a list of everything NOT there that will be in the book:
Abyssal Harvester
Abyssal Larva
Abyssal Wolf
Ahlinni (Cackle Bird)
Algoid
Anemone, Giant Sea
Angel, Empyreal
Ant Lion
Apparition
Arach
Arach, Spellbinder Sorcerer
Arcanoplasm
Archerfish, Giant
Asrai
Assassin Bug
Baccae
Baobhan Sith
Barbegazi (Ice Gnome)
Basilisk, Greater
Bat, Doombat
Bedlam
Beetle, Giant Blister
Beetle, Giant Saw-Tooth
Beetle, Giant Boring
Beetle, Giant Slicer
Beetle, Giant Water
Beetle, Requiem
Biclops
Biclops Hero
Blood Bush
Blood Wight
Bloodsuckle
Bog Creeper
Bog Mummy
Bogeyman
Boneneedle
Boneneedle, Greater
Brass Man
Brontotherium
Brume
Brykolakas
Bumblebee, Giant (Queen)
Bumblebee, Giant (Worker)
Burning Dervish
Cadaver
Carrion Moth
Caterprism
Catfish, Giant Electric
Cave Leech
Cave Lion
Cave Moray
Cerebral Stalker
Chain Worm
Chameleon, Giant
Chameleon, Giant (Horned)
Chameleon, Giant (Rock)
Cherum
Chrystone
Church Grim
Churr
Cinder Ghoul
Clamor
Cobra Flower
Colossus, Jade
Corpse Orgy
Corpse Rook
Corpsespinner
Crag Man
Crimson Basilisk
Crucifixion Spirit
Crystallis
Daemon
Deer
Demilich
Demiurge
Demon, Balbon
Demon, Beluri
Demon, Caizel
Demon, Chaaor
Demon, Choronzon
Demon, Fraz-Urb’luu
Demon, Gallu
Demon, Gharros
Demon, Greruor
Demon, Jubilex
Demon, Kostchtchie
Demon, Mallor
Demon, Mehrim
Demon, Mezzalorn
Demon, Nerizo
Demon, Nysrock
Demon, Ooze (Greater)
Demon, Ooze (Lesser)
Demon, Pazuzu
Demon, Skitterdark
Demon, Sonechard
Demon, Tsathogga
Demonic Knight
Devil, Alastor (Executioner of Hell)
Devil, Amaimon
Devil, Amon
Devil, Baaphel
Devil, Bael
Devil, Blood Reaver
Devil, Caasimolar
Devil, Demoriel
Devil, Flayer
Devil, Geryon
Devil, Ghaddar
Devil, Gorson
Devil, Hellstoker
Devil, Hutijin
Devil, Lilin
Devil, Lilith (Former Queen of Hell)
Devil, Lucifer
Devil, Moloch
Devil, Nupperibo
Devil, Titivilus
Devil, Tormentor
Devil, Xaphan (Duke)
Devil Dog
Diger
Dire Corby
Dire Smilidon
Dire Werewolf
Dracolisk
Draconid
Dragon, Dungeon
Dragon, Faerie
Dragon, Glass Wyrm
Dragon, Mist
Dragon, Smoke
Dragon, Wrath
Dragonfish
Dragonnel
Dragonship
Drake, Salt
Drake, Splinter
Drake, Splinter (Tracker)
Draug
Dream Spectre
Drelb
Eblis
Ectoplasm
Elemental, Gravity
Elemental, Negative Energy
Elemental, Positive Energy
Elemental, Psionic
Elemental Cocnstruct, Air
Elemental Cocnstruct, Earth
Elemental Cocnstruct, Fire
Elemental Cocnstruct, Water
Elusa Hound
Elemental Dragon, Air
Elemental Dragon, Earth
Elemental Dragon, Fire
Elemental Dragon, Water
Encephalon Gorger
Executioner’s Hood
Eye Killer
Eye of the Deep
Falcon, Giant
False Spider, Pedipalp
False Spider, Solifugid
Fear Guard
Fen Witch
Fetch
Fire Crab (greater)
Fire Crab (lesser)
Fire Lizard
Fire Nymph
Fire Phantom
Fire Snake
Fire Whale
Firefiend
Flail Snail
Flea, Giant
Flind
Floating Eye
Fogwarden
Forester’s Bane
Forgotten One
Fox
Frog, Monstrous–Giant Dire
Frog, Monstrous–Killer
Frog, Monstrous–Abyssal Dire
Frost Man
Fulgurate Mushroom
Fungoid
Fye
Fyr
Gallows Tree
Gallows Tree Zombie
Gambado
Gargoyle, Four-Armed
Gargoyle, Fungus
Gargoyle, Green Guardian
Gelid Beetle (greater)
Gelid Beetle (lesser)
Genie, Abasheen
Genie, Hawanar
Geon
Ghoul, Dust
Ghoul-Stirge
Giant, Bronze
Giant, Cave
Giant, Ferrous
Giant, Jack-In-Irons
Giant, Sand
Giant, Sea
Giant, Smoke
Giant, Volcano
Gloom Crawler
Gloomwing
Gnarlwood
Gohl
Golem, Blood
Golden Cat
Golem, Flagstone
Golem, Furnace
Golem, Gelatinous
Golem, Iron Maiden
Golem, Magnesium
Golem, Mummy
Golem, Ooze
Golem, Rope
Golem, Stone Guardian
Golem, Witch Doll
Gorbel
Gorgimera
Gorgon, Sthenno
Gorgon, Euryale
Gorilla Bear
Grave Risen
Gray Nisp
Graymalkin
Gremlin Filcher
Grimm
Groaning Spirit
Gronk
Guardian Daemon
Gulper Eel
Gutslug
Hag, Pit
Hanged Man
Haunt
Helix Moth (larva)
Helix Moth (adult)
Hell Moth
Herald of Tsathogga
Hippopotamus
Hoar Fox
Hoar Spirit
Hornet, Giant
Horsefly, Giant
Huggermugger
Hyaenodon
Inphidian
Inphidian, Cobra-Back
Inphidian, Common
Inphidian, Dancer
Inphidian, Night Adder
Inphidian, Night Adder Priest
Inphidian, Rattler
Iron Cobra
Jack-o-Lantern
Jaculi
Jaguar
Jupiter Bloodsucker
Kampfult
Kathlin
Kech
Kelp Devil
Khargra
Killmoulis
Kuah-Lij
Land Lamprey
Lantern Goat
Lantern Goat, Advanced
Lava Child
Leopard, Snow
Lich Shade
Lightning Treant
Livestone
Living Lake
Lizard, Cavern
Lurker Above
Lynx
Lynx (Caracal)
Lythic
Magmoid
Magnesium Spirit
Mammoth
Mandril
Mantari
Mantidrake
Marble Snake
Margay
Marmoset, Giant
Marsh Jelly
Marsh Jelly, Juiblex-Touched
Mastadon
Mawler
Medusa, Greater
Memory Child
Mephit, Lightning
Mephit, Smoke
Midnight Peddler
Mimi
Mire Brute
Mite, Common
Mite, Pestie
Moon Dog
Moose
Mortuary Cyclone
Mosquito, Giant
Mountain Lion
Muckdweller
Mud Bog
Mudman
Mummy
Murder-born
Murder Crow
Mustard Jelly
Nazalor
Netherspark
Nilbog
Niln (Vapor Horror)
Nuckalavee
Oakman
Obsidian Minotaur
Ogren
Ogrillon
Oil Shark
Oliphant
Onyx Deer
Ooze, Amber
Ooze, Dark Matter Entropic
Ooze, Entropic
Ooze, Glacial
Ooze, Mercury
Ooze, Metallic
Ooze, Vampiric
Orc, Black
Orc, Black (Priest)
Orc, Blood
Orc, Ghost-Faced
Orc, Greenskin
Orog
Pech
Phantasm
Phantom Stalker
Phasma
Phlogiston
Phooka
Pike, Giant
Proscriber
Protector
Psiwyrm
Pudding, Blood
Pudding, Brown
Pudding, Stone
Pudding, White
Pyrolisk
Quantum
Quasi-Elemental, Acid
Quasi-Elemental, Obsidian
Racoon
Racoon, Dire
Raggoth
Rakklethorn Toad
Rat, Barrow
Rat, Brain
Rat, Ethereal
Rat, Shadow
Rawbones
Red Jester
Reigon
Reliquary Guardian
Renzer (Devilfin)
Retch Hound
Riptide Horror
Rock Reptile
Ronus
Ryven
Sabrewing
Sand Kraken
Sand Stalker
Sandling
Screaming Devilkin
Screaming Skull
Scythe Horn
Sea Serpent, Brine
Sea Serpent, Deep Hunter
Sea Serpent, Fanged
Sea Serpent, Gilded
Sea Serpent, Shipbreaker
Sea Serpent, Spitting
Sea Slug, Giant
Sea Spider, Common
Sea Spider, Pelagos
Sea Wasp, Monstrous
Seahorse, Giant
Sepia Snake
Shadow, Lesser
Shedu, Greater
Sheep
Sheet Fungus
Silid
Skeleton
Skeleton, Black
Skin Stitcher
Skull Spider
Skulleton
Slaad Lord of Entropy
Slaad Lord of the Insane
Slag Worm
Slaughterford
Sleeping Willow
Slime Crawler
Slime Mold
Slorath
Sloth Viper
Smilodon (Saber-Toothed Cat)
Smilodon (Homotherium)
Soul Eater
Soul Nibbler
Soul Reaper
Spore Reaper
Spore Rat
Sprite
Squealer
Stegocentipede
Stench Kow
Stingray
Stone Maiden
Stone Roper
Stormwarden
Strangle Weed
Stroke lad
Stunjelly
Stygian Leviathan
Stymphalian Bird
Sudoth
Swarm, Adamantine Wasp
Swarm, Grig
Swarm, Heat
Swarm, Piranha
Swarm, Poisonous Frog
Swarm, Raven
Swarm, Shadow Rat
Swarm, Undead Raven
Swarm, Velvet Ant
Swarm, Warden Jack
Tabaxi
Taer
Tangtal
Temporal Crawler
Tendrul
Tentacled Horror
Thermite
Thorny
Thunder Beast
Thundershrike
Time Flayer
Tombstone Fairy
Transposer
Trapper
Tri-flower Frond
Troblin
Tsathar
Tsathar Scourge
Tuatara, Giant
Tumblespark
Tunnel Worm
Turtle, Giant Bog
Turtle-Shark
Turtle-Shark, Stygian
Ubue
Vapor Dire Rat
Vapor Wasp
Vampire Rose
Vilstrak
Vorin
Wang Liang
Wang Liang Master
Weird, Blood
Weird, Fungus
Weird, Lava
Weird, Lightning
Well Lurker
Whip Jelly
Widow Creeper
Willow Dusk
Winterbloom
Witch Grass
Witch Tree
Wizard’s Shackle
Wolf, Ghoul
Wolf, Dire Ghoul
Wolf, Shadow
Wolf-in-Sheep’s-Clothing
Wolf-Spider
Woodwose
Yellowjacket, Giant
Zombie, Brine
HAZARD
(all are currently on d20pfsrd.com)
N’GATHAU
Asagin “The Assassin”
Chaadon “The Slayer”
Chaas “The Flayed”
Ghehzi “The Mutilator”
Greixas “The Destroyer”
Modar “The Avenger”
N’hror “The Eater”
Raauka “The Ravager”
Ulaska’t “The Twisted”
Veenes “The Blademistress”
Veruard “The Razor and The Creator”
The Quorom
N’Gathau Creation
TEMPLATES
Abomination
Beast of Chaos
Bleeding Horror
Amphisbaena
Cheitan
Collective Creature
Corpsespin Creature
Deathleech
Debased Fey
Dire Creature
Flame-Spawned Creature
Foo Creature
Landwalker
Mythical Animal
Paleoskeleton Creature
Phase Creature
Plant-Imbued Creature
Ravenous (Eater of Flesh)
Skeleton Warrior
Slime Zombie
Spectral Troll
Spellgorged Zombie
Tenebrous Creature
Therianthrope
Thessalmonster
Thorny
Undead Lord
So! There should be a lot to choose from. (Some of those creatures have appeared in PF books ... the Dire Corby for instance I know is in Misfit Monsters Redeemed. But not the Bestiary.)
It's also worth noting that a lot of the entries at d20fpsrd.com are ports of TOH creatures to begin with! So even with all those that have already been converted, this will be a lot of new content.
I'm jazzed!
-The Gneech
Oh, and just for consistency: I totally want a Hero Lab data set for this. ;)
-The Gneech, broken record
Oh, and just for consistency: I totally want a Hero Lab data set for this. ;)
-The Gneech, broken record
I agree but thats going to be somthing more then likly done by fans
The initial run is planned to be 500 copies, but if by some miracle we get more than 500 pre-orders, I'm sure we could up the initial run.
I cant wait for preorders to be up
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Alizor--I'll keep the print cost as low as humanly possible. That being said, it MUST have a (very expensive) stitch binding.
While I am not sure my opinion will be shared, just some market feedback on the faux leather covers idea.
If this was a $99.99 book without the faux leather, and a $114.99 or even $119.99 with faux? I'll take the faux leather, please and thank-you.
Just announced by Bill Webb on another thread:
"Frog God games is pleased to announce Tome of Horrors Complete
This book will be released in 2 formats; Swords and Wizardry and Pathfinder. It will consist of a huge volume encompassing all three Necromancer Games Tome of Horror volumes. Release date is Summer 2011, and retail price is TBD. This will be hardcover release. This massive Tome will contain almost 1000 monsters retstatted and reworked for both game systems, all in one place.
This is the largest, most comprehensive monster book ever released. Each monster is individually illustrated.
Let the discussion begin!"
I like that it will come in two rules versions, one suitable for old school D&D and one for 3E/PF.
Sounds good!
I am definitely picking this up!
Really glad to hear you'll be keeping the critters that have been converted to PFRPG already as well. Really, really hoping the (mostly) neutral forlarren makes it in, alignment intact, if only to have somethign to point at for precedence.
Also: Corpse orgy! Corpse orgy!
What? A fellow fan oF the forlarren :()
ZOUNDS!
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I loved Necromancer Games' Tome of Horror. I only had the first volume so I'm definitely looking forward to this.
Ooh, finally! I *knew* that my fervent prayers to Asmodeus and threatening Greg with a 'Curse of Permanently Soiled Underwear' would get the wheels rolling! ;)
750 monsters? That's awesome! And B/W art works for me.
If only Green Ronin would do the same with their Advanced Bestiary, I'd be even happier!
I'm confused and still trying to wake up.
Have pre-orders started yet, or no?
Not yet! Some time in March is what I think Bill said earlier in this thread.
YUP--NO PRE-ORDERS UNTIL i FIGURE OUIT PRICING (SOON) AND GET A COMPLETED MANUSCRIPTSomeone leave Caps-Lock on? ;)
IN THE CIVIL ENGINEERING FIELD, YUP, BECAUSE CAPS LOCK IS A CONSTANT WHILE DRAFTING. (YOU HAVE TO YELL AT CONTRACTORS OR THEY MAY IGNORE YOU.)
Though normally I try to remember to turn mine off when I post here.
I can't wait for this to go on preorder. I've got $100 set aside just for this book... I'm just worried about missing out on the preorder. Just think, 500 preorders at $100 a pop is a $50,000 advance.
Tome of horrors was my favorite monster book for D&D3.x.
It would be great if they'd get with Kenzer & C and do a version for the new HackMaster as I don't play S&W or PF.
This is about ten tons of awesome. Guess I'll have to start saving up my pennies for it...though the Bestiary 2 still comes first.
Just 10,000 pennies!*
*plus local sales tax where applicable
<grin>
So all but Charon and the Oinodaemon are redundant if you have Bestiary 2.Your mileage may vary. Personally, I like having variant versions of monsters. And with the duplication between ToHC and the Bestiaries, I won't even have to do any work to have those variants.
+1
In an encounter last night, I threw both a 3.5e shoggoth from the d20 CoC book and a Pathfinder shoggoth in an encounter. It's an interesting combination, because they're very different.
Damn teleporters ruining the CoC version's Crush ability.
Of course, now that means the druid can turn into a shoggoth. Hm.
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The Pathfinder version of this book is going to be worth it! I do hope though that if a choice is made between dropping the creatures already redone by Paizo, or raising the price beyond $100, that the redundant creatures are just dropped.
Anyways please post on this thread when a preorder date is set. Hopefully we can get the .PDF included with the preorder.
The Holy Grail of PF Monsters..
Me want..but I dread what the price in the UK is going to be.
I will now make an effort to do so if Bill doesn't first.
Pre-orders will happen as soon as I can determine final price; I am just waiting to see what a couple extras (faux leather cover, etc) would cost. I am also still waiting on quotes for the Smythe sewn bindings as well...should be able to derive all this in a couple weeks; lets say end March for pre-orders?
+1
Add me to the list of people who are eagerly awaiting a PFRPG-version pre-order!
For whatever difference it makes, a faux leather cover doesn't matter to me either way, so I guess I'd be happier with the presumably cheaper alternative of "not faux leather." On the other hand, if the price difference is negligible, the faux leather will definitely make the book look more intimidating. :-)
I agree. Unless the cost is negligible, I'd rather not have the leather cover... I'd actually prefer it to match the other PF books as much as possible.
Still plan on preordering on day one, though.
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I agree. Unless the cost is negligible, I'd rather not have the leather cover... I'd actually prefer it to match the other PF books as much as possible.
Still plan on preordering on day one, though.
Er, it's not a Paizo book. I'm fine either way on the leather, but I hope it does look akin the the 3.X volumes: with the skull cover.
I agree. Unless the cost is negligible, I'd rather not have the leather cover... I'd actually prefer it to match the other PF books as much as possible.
Still plan on preordering on day one, though.
Price is definitely the biggest factor to me, as well. Besides just plain not liking leather or faux leather as a book cover. This is a book I want to use, not show off. Stick with cover stock and b/w illos please.
-The Gneech
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Posted today on the Frog God Games blog:
"I have completed price analysis and obtained printing quotes of Tome of Horrors Complete and am able to price the pre-order books at $89.99 and will end June 1, 2011. Non-pre-orders will be $99.99. This huge volume will encompass all three of the Necromancer Games Tome of Horrors books into one giant “Necronomican-like” Tome. It can be used as a weapon against players of all levels, either as an in-game tool or as a bludgeon (it will weigh several pounds). Page count is estimated at over 1000, ands the book will be cloth stitch (Smythe) bound for durability. No other monster book ever produced will have the “Thud factor” of this tome. Release date is estimated as August 1, 2011."
Link: http://www.talesofthefroggod.com/index.php/news
I'm in!
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Great news on the price announcement. Where do we sign up? Also, what is the expected shipping cost? Finally, can we pre-order and pick up and Gen Con to avoid shipping costs?
When Bill is ready i am sure the signup will be on Frog God Games site.
Shipping will depend a lot on where you live.
No idea and until it gets closer I doubt Bill would know. Right now he says the target is August 1 but that doesn't mean the book will hit it. Many a slip between a cup and a lip.
90 bucks for 750 monsters? And usable at all levels? This is gonna be epic. I'm gonna be really thankful for this.
