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Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Hel did get pretty lucky with Durkon, though. She'd probably consigned herself to waiting out another hundred years or so. But the Order of the Stick is not often favored by fortune.

Actually, I think that it is the other way around : that Hel got an eye on Durkon for a very long time and designed her plan when she realized it might have something to do with the Godsmoot.

I suppose that Hel knew about the different prophecies so :

- She knew that Durkon was destined to bring death and destruction to the Dwarven lands before he was kicked out. Since those are squarely in her portfolio, it makes sense that she would pay special attention to this young Cleric. Maybe there was a way to bring him to her fold.

- Just after being kicked out, Durkon invoked her name in vain, specifically wishing for his people to all go to Hel, without even knowing about the prophecy. Strike two for raising her interest in this young lad even higher.

- The Oracle told Durkon that he would go back home posthumously. I think Hel heard of it and posthumously has a different ringing for the goddess of undead dwarves.

So, I think Hel had her eye on Durkon and believed he would help her win in the end even though she did not yet know how.

She saw the OotS provoke / be unable to stop the destruction of the Gates and heard about the Godsmoot. I think she took it as a sign that she could end the world through the voting and that Durkon would play a role in this.

And at approximately the same time, fate favored her by making Durkon a vampire.

Hence the current situation. This also explains how Hel could prepare for a situation she could not manipulate, ie that the Northern Pantheon would have the deciding vote. She had faith that things would go her way because of the prophecies and events surrounding Durkon and the OotS. And she designed her plan to take advantage of the Godsmoot just in case her faith was rewarded, which it was.


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Peter Stewart wrote:
The issue is not number of strips or quality of plot. It is his posting speed. Any plot that takes this long to resolve in terms of real time is a problem, and has me losing interest.

Okay, you got me curious, how long has this plot taken so far in real time? The Giant posts the individual strip discussion threads at almost exactly the same time as the comic, so I'll use those as a reference...

The first strip in book 5 was 947. The strip 947 thread was posted on March 31 2014, which is 652 days ago, a bit under two years.

Book five started with strip 673, which was posted on August 31 2009. Book five ended with strip 946, on February 18, 2014, for a total running time of 1632 days. That's almost exactly two and half times as long as book six has been running so far. The author said we are about a third of the way through book six, so at this rate book six will run a little bit longer than book five. Although, when he said we are "a third" of the way through, he probably meant in number of strips, since he plans what happens in each strip really far in advance, but doesn't plan when they get released, so estimates of how much longer it will run in real time are likely to be wrong.

Yeah, but Rich got injured and was dealing with the Kickstarter towards the end of book 5, and that added months onto end of the book as things slowed to a crawl.

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You know what we haven't seen of late: Durkon's mind. He had *something* planned against the vampire spirit. I'm not sure what.

Liberty's Edge

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New one : Withdrawn


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And with that, book six has now hit exactly 100 online pages!


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Welp.


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Yup.

Scarab Sages

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Is Roy still the bodyguard of the High Priest of Hel? Just curious.


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And the moral of today's strip?

Always carry a ranged weapon.


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Dragoncat wrote:

And the moral of today's strip?

Always carry a ranged weapon.

You think Roy would have learned that by now....


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mourge40k wrote:
Dragoncat wrote:

And the moral of today's strip?

Always carry a ranged weapon.

You think Roy would have learned that by now....

I think if he did, the arc would've been a lot shorter.


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So...four Dwarven vampires are going to turn the entire council of elders for the dwarven nation into spawn that serve Hel so they can choose to end the world? And have to do so on a timetable so that no one stops them from doing it? Is that about the sum of it?

So I guess that means:
a) that must be a small council.
a) no one has means of fast means of communicating with them to warn them.
b) apparently there aren't many high-level dwarven priest outside the moot that could protect against the vampires in any case.

Dark Archive

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Which can be summed up in two words:

Dramatic Tension

:)

Grand Lodge

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I haven't felt tense about this arc for quite awhile.

Dark Archive

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I asked Rich Burlew to turn it up a notch.

You are all welcome.

;)

Dark Archive

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Alex Martin wrote:

So...four Dwarven vampires are going to turn the entire council of elders for the dwarven nation into spawn that serve Hel so they can choose to end the world? And have to do so on a timetable so that no one stops them from doing it? Is that about the sum of it?

So I guess that means:
a) that must be a small council.
a) no one has means of fast means of communicating with them to warn them.
b) apparently there aren't many high-level dwarven priest outside the moot that could protect against the vampires in any case.

Also the entire council is all in one place since that orb is a one use item.

(I dunno does is it just me or does this storyline seem to be just being stretched out and is something that probably could have been resolved in maybe a dozen strips?)

Also why cant Roy just dust the new high priest of Hel? should solve everything right?


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Gotta fill out those kickstarter paperbacks.

Even in a non-meta sense, Roy not having a bow,handaxe or dagger to toss is annoying in situations like this, especially since all it takes it swiping his blade to de-fang him.

In a meta sense, a higher level fighter would have a +1 Composite Longbow, Returning Handaxe or dagger for basic poking at a distance.

Liberty's Edge

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Well, he did throw the green sword :-)

Sovereign Court

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True, but as far as I can tell, the only person who *ever* had a secondary weapon was Haley, and that was only whilst she had Crystal's dagger (and then later, when she bought the adamantine weapon).


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As Order of the Stick is not a comic best read serially, I have to admit all the complaints about it taking too long are sort of blending together for me. This arc really hasn't gone on that long (especially when you compare it to actually overlong arcs like the Castle Heterodyne, Oceans Unmoving, or, to a lesser and more subtle extent, Haley's speech loss arc). Personally, I'm enjoying it a million times more than the Empire of Blood book. This arc is much more visually and narratively interesting.

Anyways, on a more fresh topic, it is funny how none of the party has backup weapons. It's one of the few aspects of OotS that is less focused on "game realism"—in a game, even Varsuvius would own a knife or something. We have never, ever seen Varsuvius hold a weapon. At least, not without it being immediately followed by them saying something like, "Yes, it is magic," and handing it over to someone else.

Actually, even then, I can't think of a specific instance. Durkula even lampshaded it.

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I think Roy's ranged weapon is called a ring of jump.

Silver Crusade

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Ross Byers wrote:
I think Roy's ranged weapon is called a ring of jump.

I thought Belkar still had that.

I'd say Roy's ranged weapon is called Haley. Or possibly Vaarsuvius.


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Alex Martin wrote:
So...four Dwarven vampires are going to turn the entire council of elders for the dwarven nation into spawn that serve Hel so they can choose to end the world?

Small quibble, and not sure the effective difference it'll make in the end, but the vampires' plan is to dominate the elders with that swirly eye trick, not turn then into spawn.

Scarab Sages

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Well, dwarves tend to have high will saves. They should be able to snapoutta it.


Dwarves only tend to have high Will saves in Pathfinder, though. ;P


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Kinda ignores the presence/protection of high level clerics/guards for the dwarven elders though, also elders implies older = higher wisdom = higher will save.

The arc is epic in theme (preventing the very well introduced twist of the end of the world through of all things a vote), the story is now at a place though where there are some loose ends (Belkar vs large vampire minion, rest of group to save animals) which just 'anti-climactic' structurally to show it and a bit of a con not to (and just assume they are defeated). My guess is that Durkula will be the next few pages.

V also MAY be able to teleport the 5 remaining members of the OotS after resting?

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strayshift wrote:
V also MAY be able to teleport the 5 remaining members of the OotS after resting?

V is an Evoker with Conjuration as a prohibited school. (Other one is Necromancy). Can't teleport. Back when this was first indicated, V pointed out that prohibited schools were selected in 3.0, when teleport was a Transmutation spell.

That's why they needed the orb in the first place.

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Imbicatus wrote:
Well, dwarves tend to have high will saves. They should be able to snapoutta it.

No. They have exactly the Will save needed to advance the story.


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I have a feeling we're going to learn a bit about the elders soon. Maybe it will turn out they're all squabbling politicians with very little sense between them. Or maybe dominating them will be very challenging, and that's why it was always a "worst-case scenario" plan.

Liberty's Edge

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Imbicatus wrote:
Well, dwarves tend to have high will saves. They should be able to snapoutta it.

Out of one attempt each round likely. Out of 4 far less. Durkula would have preferred more. But they will have to manage with four :-)

The green sword does something to Roy when he throws it (green eyes). Anybody knows what that is ?

Sovereign Court

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Same thing happened in #1009/10 when the sword first activated.

Liberty's Edge

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KingOfAnything wrote:
Same thing happened in #1009/10 when the sword first activated.

Yes. And then it healed him. But no healing here.

It did seem to increase his damage then, and here it seems to help him throw the sword. Bonus to STR maybe. So, Rage in a Sword ;-)


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I don't think he was injured to begin with this time.

Dark Archive

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Scroll Left.


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Ah, Scroll Mishaps. Truly a wonderful thing when you know a situation absolutely can not get any worse.

Silver Crusade

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That was awesome. What a great way to get some help.

"Pottericus mimickus" Heh.


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Also, the Giant will eventually republish the six OOTS strips that were in Gygax Magazine through some other venue (quite possibly in a follow-up to Snips Snails and Dragon Tails).

Dark Archive

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Misroi wrote:
Scroll Left.

To be fair here, the animal companions show more teamwork than half the PFS tables I have seen.


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The animal companions probably know each other better.
Then again, I've seen groups who have been playing together for years show less teamwork than Blackwing and Mr. Scruffy, so maybe familiarity isn't the determining factor.

Liberty's Edge

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Wondering why V needed this scroll and how its destruction will impact the adventure

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The Raven Black wrote:
Wondering why V needed this scroll and how its destruction will impact the adventure

Locate creature is a utility spell that doesn't depend much upon caster level, so it is the kind of thing that makes sense for a wizard to carry on a scroll rather than bothering to prepare.

If V had a specific creature and casting time in mind, s/he'd probably just prepare it for that day. (For instance, if the plan was just to try to keep tabs on where Xykon was, or to try to infer what was happening inside the Moot, there's no reason to put it on a scroll first.)

The Exchange

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Blackwing is my favorite character in OOTS!


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Now harder to find Durkula


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137ben wrote:

The animal companions probably know each other better.

Then again, I've seen groups who have been playing together for years show less teamwork than Blackwing and Mr. Scruffy, so maybe familiarity isn't the determining factor.

Pun alert!


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With the orange glow and a door being almost smashed open as if by a suddenly expanding object, I wonder if Bloodfeast has resumed his original form...

Liberty's Edge

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Feros wrote:
With the orange glow and a door being almost smashed open as if by a suddenly expanding object, I wonder if Bloodfeast has resumed his original form...

Baleful Polymorph was brown but Counterspell is orange. You might be on to something here

Dark Archive

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Add to that Bloodfeast the Extreme-inator is actually in the fifth panel of the current strip.


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And here I was just thinking a scroll mishap resulted in a brief, fiery explosion.

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Dal Selpher wrote:
And here I was just thinking a scroll mishap resulted in a brief, fiery explosion.

In that case, the scroll located a creature alright.

I am not sure it a huge dinosaur will help with the rat swarm though.


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Lord Fyre wrote:
Dal Selpher wrote:
And here I was just thinking a scroll mishap resulted in a brief, fiery explosion.

In that case, the scroll located a creature alright.

I am not sure it a huge dinosaur will help with the rat swarm though.

Well it will certainly draw the attention of the various people on board.

Most likely be ripping the ship apart due to just being too damn big to fit.

I doubt that's what actually happened though.

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