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My PF version of Gromsfed's base, the klurichir. I kept them as 'more powerful than balors' as described in FF.
XP 1,230,000
CE Huge Outsider (Chaotic, Demon, Evil)
Init +12; Senses Darkvision, detect magic, true seeing; Perception +36
Languages Abyssal, Celestial, Draconic; telepathy 200 ft.
Aura frightful presence (DC 31, 5d6 rounds), unholy aura (DC 29)
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AC 45, touch 20, flat-footed 37, combat 64
(+4 deflection, +8 Dex, +25 natural, -2 size)
hp 462 (25d10 + 325); fast healing 10; DR 20/good and cold iron
Immune electricity, poison
Resist acid 20, cold 20, fire 20; SR 36
Fort +27, Ref +26, Will +26
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Speed 50 ft.; fly 90 ft. (average)
Melee 4 claws +38 (3d8 + 15) and
bite +38 melee (4d8 + 15) and
2 wings +36 (2d8 + 7) and
pincers +36 (4d8 + 22 plus grab /18-20/x4)
Space 15 ft.; Reach 15 ft.
Base Atk +25; Combat +42
Atk Options Awesome blow, great cleave, greater vital strike, power attack (-7, +14)
Special Actions chew (6d8 + 30)
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Spell-like Abilities (Caster level 25th)
at will- animate dead, blasphemy (DC 26), chain lightning (DC 25), deeper darkness, delayed blast fireball (DC 26), freezing sphere (DC 25), greater dispel magic, greater teleport, hold monster (DC 24), major image (DC 22), power word stun, telekinesis (DC 24), suggestion (DC 22), word of chaos (DC 26)
3/day – acid fog, power word kill, summon (level 10, any 3 CR 20 or lower demon 100%), unhallow, wall of fire (DC 23)
Constant – detect magic, true seeing, unholy aura (DC 27)
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Abilities Str 41, Dex 27, Con 36, Int 25, Wis 27, Cha 28
SQ augmented critical
Feats Awesome Blow, Cleave, Combat Reflexes, Fly-by Attack, Great Cleave, Great Fortitude, Greater Vital Strike, Improved Initiative, Improved Vital Strike, Multiattack, Power Attack, Quicken Spell-like Ability, Vital Strike
Skills Acrobatics +33, Athletics +40, Bluff +37, Diplomacy +19, Escape Artist +23, Fly +36, Intimidate +37, Knowledge (arcana) +27, Knowledge (planes) +27, Knowledge (religion) +26, Perception +36, Sense Motive +36, Spellcraft +21, Stealth +28, Survival +36, Use Magic Device +24
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Chew This works identically to grapple, except that the klurichir's stomach maw is attacking.
My curiosity has been piqued by the discussion of Savage Tide and now I'm wondering if the conversions Charlie and Kain and others have posted are just stat blocks or has the entire AP been converted into pdf's anywhere? I would love to get my hands on it (stat blocks plus AP text). Do I have to locate electronic copies of the Dungeon magazines?
And if someone wouldn't mind giving me permission to look at your conversions (*cough* Charlie *cough*) I would be very appreciative. Thanks!
Just the statblocks I believe. Handing out full rewrites of the text would probably get him in trouble with Paizo.
Copies of the old Dungeon magazines are probably your best bet.
A friend of mine runs a local gaming store, so I can check with him about old copies. I know others have done full pdf conversions of old TSR modules (in the Conversions forum), so I was wondering if anyone had done so for ST. Guess not. Thanks!
It looks like many of the back issues of Dungeon (#139-#150) are available in pdf form on the Paizo site, but not all. It is missing 3 of them including the two final installments. I guess I can check Amazon or Ebay. Hmm. Sure would love a complete conversion in pdf form (wink, wink).
Hmm. Sure would love a complete conversion in pdf form (wink, wink).
I don't think that you'll get that anywhere... most of the guys here that have done A LOT of work on there conversions have made their statblock conversions available, but posting complete rewrites leads into IP issues (don't think that anyone wants to go there)
Best suggestion I can give is get the entire AP (book or PDF) and look at peoples conversions (Charlie has adventures 8 through 12, I've got 1 through 5 and growing, and there is lots more available) and then work out how you can use that to find an enjoyable game with your players.
We may all be running the same AP, but I know from here alone that each GMs game is wildly different!
Thanks, Charlie. PM sent.
And thanks TBA. I checked on Amazon for the missing Dungeon issues and only #150 is available and that for a ridiculous amount. Finding copies of the missing issues may be a bit of a challenge, but I'll keep digging.
So if Charlie has conversions for 8-12, would you be able to give me your conversions for 1-5? Has anyone done 6-7 yet? I've decided I likely wouldn't run the first adventure and would kick this off with adventure 2 with 3rd level PCs.
Also, do these adventures assume the current standard of 4-person party and 15-point buy? I know they were 3.5 so I wasn't sure what the assumption was. My group is 6 players and we generally use 25-point buy although I would intend to go with 20-point buy characters for this.
Thanks so much for the help.
They used whatever the standard point buy was for 3.5, I don't remember what that was but I know it wasn't 15.
I'll dig up my old 3.5 PHB and check. Were they written for a 4-person standard party do you know? Thanks!
Yeah, that was the expectation, yes.
Thanks, Orthos! I just loaded up my shopping cart with 8 of the 11 pdf's from Paizo's site. I'm still missing #141, 149, and 150. As I understand it, there were no pdf's of the last two issues (149 and 150) so I'll have to secure physical copies of them somehow. Ugh.
Edit to say I just found another thread a little further down that discusses point buy for a PF version of ST. It looks like the recommended PB is 25. Since that is what we normally play I will just keep it there.
Also, TBA, if you don't mind giving me access to your conversions, here is my email address. Thanks!
Added you to get my conversions. Currently working on chapter 6, some of that is up already
The quality of conversions vary depend on the time I've got free to do it (which hasn't been much recently), and my conversion is set for 6 PCs with high initial starting scores (25 point buy minimum) but about average wealth per level... so some encounters look fairly brutal
Does anyone have a good suggestion on how to come by copies of Dungeon issues 141, 149, and 150? I haven't had any luck on Amazon due to very limited availability and high prices. I have checked eBay a couple of times but the prices there seem out of line, too. Am I stuck paying sky-high prices or is there an alternative I'm missing? Thanks!
http://www.hieroglyphsbooks.com/
She doesn't have any in stock atm, but I bought most of my back issues of Dungeon from her. Even if she doesn't have it, she's pretty good about knowing where to find the stuff.
Chapter 6 complete (for people tracking it)
Chapter 7 complete and uploaded
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How are folks representing the dustmen from Orcus' realm? I don't believe I have seen anything but the name.
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How are folks representing the dustmen from Orcus' realm? I don't believe I have seen anything but the name.
Surprisingly enough, they're just goths who enjoy hanging out with the undead. So probably just regular humans with the Tomb-tainted Soul feat, and trying to become fully undead. Class is typically a necromancer or fighter, according to a few npc listings.
@TBA - Looked over "There is No Honor" and Rowyn and Gut Tugger are missing their CR & XP. In "The Bullywug Gambit" there's an extra blank page between the stats of Brissa and Diamondback. Also, how did you do the character sheet for Harliss? "The Lightless Depths" has the Shaboaths, but they too are missing XP & CR.
@TBA - Looked over "There is No Honor" and Rowyn and Gut Tugger are missing their CR & XP.
This is intentional, I'm using specific points to level up PCs, and as my group of 6-7 PCs are fairly OP, the point of having CRs and XPs isn't really needed
In "The Bullywug Gambit" there's an extra blank page between the stats of Brissa and Diamondback.
This is intentional too, the way that I printed out the sheets was having two pages on one A4 sheet. The blank page was there to put Diamondback and her Stiltwalkers on the same sheet, so I didn't have to flip back and forth.
Also, how did you do the character sheet for Harliss?
I cheated there, because people had complained that Harliss was woefully weak as written, I wanted to rebuild her. I used PCGen... never used it since.
Yeah, as I said, it was intentional. As nearly all the stats are pulled from either 3.5Ed or PF, then trying to work out CRs and XP become an extra burden that I really didn't want to deal with.
I tabled the idea of levelling up at points in the story to my group, and they thought that it was a better idea. They can go side questing if they like, but it only really brings them more loot and fame.
The stuff that does have XP and CR have been taken from a source which already had that in, so I've just left it in.
If you want to add in XP and CR, feel free.
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Hey guys...I am going to be starting this on Monday...I'm starting with the adventure " funeral Procession", which is one of my favorites to introduce the players and get them on Livinia's radar...
I would love access to the conversions, just to see the stuff...
What I really would like is to see how anyone converted the Gods/Demon Lords to Golarion...Was thinking about a) either just leaving Demogorgon as is, or b) making him a child of Lamashtu...Gonna leave Iggwilv, because she is a favorite f mine, but Malcanthet and the others....what did y'all do?
Have all the Hero Lab stuff, so I actually like doing the conversions, but yours would make great reading and give me ideas..
Please add me to the list...I am not familiar with the site you are using, so if you could walk me through how to use it, I'd really appreciate it..
Patman21967@comcast.net
Thanks in advance,
patrick
I would love access to the conversions, just to see the stuff...
Added you my conversion work, enjoy :)
I am runing Savage tide Skull and Shackles mashup. I'm very interested to see conversions. Here you have my mail: robert.bauta@gmail.com
Thank you very much!
Added you, enjoy :)
Added you, enjoy :)
Could you add me as well? I'd really appreciate since, in addition to having to convert all the NPCs to the PF setting, I would also have to convert them to my homebrew rules!
Thanks in advance. sizdothyx@gmail.com
Added, have fun :)
I have completed conversions from Serpents of Scuttlecove up to The Enemies of My Enemy so far. Just did Orcus, and it gave me goosebumps. Tulani eladrins were easy, relatively speaking. I'm kind of undecided though at the moment if I should make Celeste a straight bard or a magician bard. Charon took a long time to rebuild but that was because I kept going back and forth between his stats in the adventure, stats in previous edition, and his role as a Horseman in the Golarion campaign setting.
Anyways, once I complete The Prince of Demons, I'll provide my conversions for people to browse through. I hope to get it all done before the end of this spring season.
CB out.
Thanks for all of your work, Canadian Bakka. And TBA], of course.
I should mention though that my conversions are stat blocks only. As for the adventure path itself, I'm running mine in the same setting as the adventure path assumes (Greyhawk). I am not familiar enough with Golarion to be able to identify good spots for the stops of the voyage of the Sea Wyvern.
Another thing I should mention is that I tend to do conversions with background history (or "fluff") in mind. However, the PF campaign setting does have some pretty good ideas/rules/mechanics for planar adventures/planar traits/etc., so I combined those with the original 3.0 Manual of the Planes to get that Planescape setting feel that I greatly love.
My point is that my conversions are going to be almost faithful to the original STAP but with variation in some of the creatures, especially with named npcs.
I highly recommend getting as many different conversions as possible because then players will be really confused as a new group of previously fought foes suddenly are distinctly different in combat abilities and tactics. A much better alternative to "making the next batch tougher" or "add more monsters to the mix." I know I certainly will be using Charlie's and TBA's conversions in conjunction with my own efforts to keep my players on their toes, ;)
CB out.
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I was hoping to find and compare conversions of Savage Tide moved from Greyhawk to Golarion.
Based on what I can see from the map in the PF campaign setting book, my recommendation would be to place Sasserine as a port city near the Eye of Abendgengo. The Isle of Dread should be placed, wholecloth, 6 months by sailing ship out west of the Eye of Abendgengo in the Arcadian Ocean. Scuttlecove should a bit further west of the Shackles. Finally, the Sargasso can happen near or on the edges of the Eye of Abendgengo.
That should cover most of the important locations that happens on the Prime Material plane. Everything thing else happens in the Abyss - pretty straightforward stuff there.
Does that help?
CB out.
As someone running a PF version of this AP myself, this thread makes me all kinds of happy to see that others are enjoying the same. I'm impressed with the depth of conversions some of you guys do. Keep up the good work!
With the darker skin tones, i believe that they would easiest be Garundi lost in the shattering from Earthfall.
More than 3 years later, thank you so much Kain Darkwind for all the Lightless Depths monsters conversions... really good work !
It was most helpfull for me, you turned them all into very strong opponents, just the way I like :-)
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I'm currently running ST through Pathfinder rules in the Greyhawk setting.
I've got notes up on Google Drive for the first 4 adventures, currently converting as I go (on Tides of Dread at present)
Send me a message with your details and I'll share.
TBA
I'd like to see your conversion. Please add me: abbati@treemme(dot)org
Not been about here for a while. Added everyone upto Vaellyn if you're still interested!