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Were the new Monk weapons deliberately omitted from the list of weapons affected by Perfect Strike in the APG? I'd really like to make a Temple Sword wielding Weapon Adept a la Samurai Jack but the feat just seems wasted if I'm wielding the Temple Sword.
Also do monks retroactively get proficiency with all the new weapons? Seems silly like they'd have to take a feat to wield a Cestus or Brass Knuckles.
My instincts say no since the rules specifically state otherwise and I'm sure no DM would mind home-brewing these in but I'd like to use it in PFS.
Thanks,
coff
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Monk weapons are not automatically added to the weapon proficiency list of a monk. The label of 'monk weapon' indicates you can use it with flurry. There have been a few threads discussing this that I remember.
For the feat, it looks like it is only for very specific weapons within the monk weapon list. I would house rule to allow all monk weapons the monk is proficient with. The description says "When wielding a monk weapon" which is not reflected in the description
Were the new Monk weapons deliberately omitted from the list of weapons affected by Perfect Strike in the APG? I'd really like to make a Temple Sword wielding Weapon Adept a la Samurai Jack but the feat just seems wasted if I'm wielding the Temple Sword.
Also do monks retroactively get proficiency with all the new weapons? Seems silly like they'd have to take a feat to wield a Cestus or Brass Knuckles.
My instincts say no since the rules specifically state otherwise and I'm sure no DM would mind home-brewing these in but I'd like to use it in PFS.
Thanks,
coff
a) I think any reasonable DM would allow Perfect Strike to apply with all monk weapons.
b) Monks are proficient with brass knuckles, but not cesti. The cestus and temple sword are strictly better than other monk weapons (better critical range), so presumably that's why they require a feat to use.
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After a double checking your mention of Brass Knuckles I checked the other new Monk Weapons. They all have the rule at the bottom of their description mentioning that Monks are proficient. Question 2 answered. Thank you.
Cesti and Brass Knuckles make sense as to why they wouldn't be affected by the Perfect Strike feat since they're basically still unarmed attacks.
The mechanical rational behind not allowing the feat to affect Temple Swords makes sense since they're clearly the damage output and crit range far exceed those of other monk weapons. But I can't wrap my head around why, thematically, the feat wouldn't affect the weapon.
After a double checking your mention of Brass Knuckles I checked the other new Monk Weapons. They all have the rule at the bottom of their description mentioning that Monks are proficient. Question 2 answered. Thank you.
Glad I could help you by giving you the wrong answer! ;-)
