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Question really is have the couple worked it out for themselves by the time they committed to the marriage and family bit? That's where the answer lies.
So what do children learn when one parent is religious and the other is not? Better yet, when one parent is politely atheist and the other believes Christ is the only way to Heaven, all others will burn?"Mommy, is Daddy going to burn in Hell?"
I'm RC, my wife is Episcopalian. We worked that out before we got married, and the kids have attended both Catholic Mass and CoE services--but my situation is very different from my friend's.
He's a quiet atheist, his wife is Assembly of God (I'm not totally sure what that is, but he tells me they routinely have someone fall out and writhe around in the aisle, speak in Tongues, etc.)
When he and his wife married, everything seemed fine--he's not a militant atheist, and not self-marketing either, no Darwin fish or Ban Religion bumper stickers. When they had kids, he had no problem sending them to a religious private school, until his 7 year old came home one day and asked him if he was worried about burning forever in the Lake of Fire... And when he brought this up with his wife, she told him, essentially, "from the mouths of babes..."
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Well - normaly I try to keep out of religious or political discussions on the web, but I want to chime in with a thought about influencing/not influencing the religious/non-religious developement of a child.
I can't have children of my own, so when I write about "my children" thats purely hypothetical and meant to illustrate my point (of view)
Although I study educational science I do not think waht I write is an absolute truth, far from it, but I do think, it is worth a thought.
I am a religious person. I do firmly believe, yet I am aware that my believes are not necessarily more true or more worthy than other religions or than concious atheism. I would try to keep the minds of my children open and teach them about different religious believes as good as I can, without conciously advocating a certain religion
Yet, I couldn't help exposing my child to my religious believes. Why, not because I think my child is doomed to hell if it doesn't follow my religion, not because I have to take it to church with me. I could't help exposing my child to my religion, because my religion permeates all aspects of my life. If it would't, I wouldn't consider myself a religious person. My religion isn't limited to religious education, not limited to church. It influences, how I view the world around me, how I view other people and thus, how I interact with my surroundings.
I can't keep that fro a child I'm bringing up. To do so, I'd have to refrain from teaching my child anything, which is a clear no can do.
I can try to help my child to make his own decisions, to recognize that he has choices about his religious believes or disbelieves, but as a religious person, I cannot raise an atheist child, even if I wanted.
On her official website she posted the following announcement via her facebook feed this afternoon:"I quit being a Christian. I'm out. In the name of Christ, I refuse to be anti-gay. I refuse to be anti-feminist. I refuse to be anti-artificial birth control. I refuse to be anti-Democrat. I refuse to be anti-secular humanism. I refuse to be anti-science. I refuse to be anti-life. In the name of ...Christ, I quit Christianity and being Christian. Amen."
Hey, all I can say is I'm Christian and look how I turned out. :-)
Re: Letting kids choose, I admire what my parents did. One of my earliest memories is asking my mother who "God" was (I heard it on TV) -- she was aghast at this critical lack in my education, and immediately enrolled me in a Catholic bible study camp, where they told me who God was and what He wanted and why everyone else was going to Hell. I was encouraged to go to services with grandma, etc.
But the next summer I spent with one of the Protestant sects instead, where I was told why the Catholics were wrong. And the next summer was with the Unitarians, who told me the Catholics and Protestants and Jews aren't really all that different, when you get down to it, and that all three of them are right. One summer was at sleep away camp; our counselor was a born-again certified maniac High Holy Roller militant evangelist. And during the school year, my folks always encouraged me to hang out with the Jewish kids around the block, who spent their time learning Hebrew and playing with draidels.
You know, religious groups are a lot like gamer groups.
I like cheese!
I like cheese!
and, from what I'm told, you're here to save the day. That is, of course, assuming that you're on your way.
I like cheese!and, from what I'm told, you're here to save the day. That is, of course, assuming that you're on your way.
You want some cheese? It goes great with all kinds of stuff: bread, doritos, pizza, wine......
I removed a couple posts, because generally speaking, when a moderator tells people to quit doing something, it's not a good idea to bring it up again.
I also removed quite a few posts that quoted that posts (or quoted those posts, etc.)
I strongly suggest that if people want to continue debating things that they migrate over to the Civil Religious Discussion thread, provided they can keep it civil. If anyone has anything to say that actually pertains to Anne Rice, then do it here.
I liked Interview with a Vampire and The Vampire Lestat. I thought Queen of the Damned neutered her best character and turned him into a whiny Harry Potter.
I like cheese!
I like chocolate milk!
All the best arguments have 50% deletion rates.
Flagged.
I liked Interview with a Vampire and The Vampire Lestat. I thought Queen of the Damned neutered her best character and turned him into a whiny Harry Potter.We agree, I couldn't finish that piece of junk.
For me, it was one of those novels that had lots of interesting ideas, but when you have a interesting ideas instead of an interesting novel, I remember your ideas and I forget your novel. Not sure I can name more than two things that happened in it.
I kind of liked Memnoch the Devil.
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I liked Interview with a Vampire and The Vampire Lestat. I thought Queen of the Damned neutered her best character and turned him into a whiny Harry Potter.We agree, I couldn't finish that piece of junk.For me, it was one of those novels that had lots of interesting ideas, but when you have a interesting ideas instead of an interesting novel, I remember your ideas and I forget your novel. Not sure I can name more than two things that happened in it.
I kind of liked Memnoch the Devil.
I have yet to finish Queen and as such have not read Memnoch.
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Still think she's an irrelevant hack who's opinions on about anything are completely void of anything I need to ponder.
I like some of her stuff. The rest well, yeah, not so much. I do not care what anyone, who is a celebrity, cares about or says about anything. If your an "expert" on a particular subject or even a friend, online only or not, then I care. I might not agree but I will ponder upon it. A celeb, whatever. A fiction writer even less so.
I liked Interview with a Vampire and The Vampire Lestat. I thought Queen of the Damned neutered her best character and turned him into a whiny Harry Potter.
Same. I thought Interview was absolutely poetic. Everything was so vivid and beautiful. Lestat's book was not as lyrical, but I have to admit, was just plain cool at the time in my life when that appealed to me most. There was some great history there, but Lestat himself was just the hip kind of punk that made a great hero when I read the book in my early 20s. All pumped up from reading Lestat, I dove into Queen of the Damned as soon as it was released, and I found it something of a chore. It answered most, if not all, of the questions _The Vampire Lestat_ posed, so for that I appreciated that it made a good ending if I chose to stop there, which I did.
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I liked Interview with a Vampire and The Vampire Lestat. I thought Queen of the Damned neutered her best character and turned him into a whiny Harry Potter.We agree, I couldn't finish that piece of junk.
While I absolutely loved Interview with a Vampire, I found that by the end of the the Vampire Lestat I was sick of the characters and their whining, and didn't want to read anything else.
My favorite of her books is Cry to Heaven. Her baroque writing style is a good fit for a novel set in 18th century Venice.
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I liked Interview with a Vampire and The Vampire Lestat. I thought Queen of the Damned neutered her best character and turned him into a whiny Harry Potter.We agree, I couldn't finish that piece of junk.While I absolutely loved Interview with a Vampire, I found that by the end of the the Vampire Lestat I was sick of the characters and their whining, and didn't want to read anything else.
My favorite of her books is Cry to Heaven. Her baroque writing style is a good fit for a novel set in 18th century Venice.
I may have to add that and the mayfair witches to my, as of right now, long assed reading list.
I have to finish two conan novels and Children of Hurin first along with a couple of planet stories books I have and 1/2 dozen or so gaming books along with a few non fiction. Damn I just realized I do not have to purchase any new books for some time.
Silly atheists! The Flying Spaghetti Monster will smite you with his Noodly Appendage of DOOM!!!
I ates it. It just gave me gas.
I'd assume she was doing this to get talked about a bit /before/ announcing the next book. (Hey, what can I say, I'm a cynical guy.)
I sure ain't betting against you on this.
Is this one dead yet?
"To Blave..."
Nope, it's only mostly dead.