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Suppose one could buy a masterwork version of ordinary clothing, and then have it enchanted to be +1 (or higher) armor. That might be something that a character who is not proficient with any armor could use. Of course the base armor bonus would be 0. I'm thinking that something like that would cost at least 200 gp base.
Ah, I thought you were going to tell me that it is "ajar"...
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And I'm thinking in terms of organized play. Anyone with the gold can buy +1 armor. A character would need to have earned enough PA to buy bracers of armor, or have found them in an adventure. Moreover, under the rules of organized play, masterwork weapons and armor can be enchanted "on the fly"; that is, a masterwork rapier could be enchanted to +1, a +1 shield could be enchanted to +2 (for only the difference in price). I do not think that Bracers of Armor could be so enhanced.
I realize that this item does not exist in organized play, so it's a moot point from my perspective.
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If you don't have armor prof, you can still wear MW studded leather, leather and padded armor with no penalties anyways since you incure the mighty zero armor check penalty...well kinda moot as it's zero.
The only issues are with wizards and sorcerers and they have other ways to deal with that anyways. Come to think of it, they are the only ones without armor prof.... So what this becomes is a cheap way to try to get bracers of armor 5 or less...so I am against the idea.
Magic Vestment treats clothing as +0 armor. So I see no reason why this shouldn't work in theory.
You mean that you have never had enchanted clothing? Aside from various robes these are pretty common in our games.
I was thinking about a monk, who loses all his monk abilities when wearing any armor.
If memory serves me, they did exactly this with Monk Straps from Magic of Faerun. They were leather straps that were treated as masterwork shirt (0 base AC) and were enhanced for AC.
Course I am getting older and my memory aint what it used to be.
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Generally in organised play the rule is that you can not build an item that's not described in the core rules set whether the mechanics allow it or not.
That's the rule for LSJ-Pathfinder and as I understand it PFS is even more restrictive since you're not allowed to craft items at all. You are only allowed to purchase from the following lists.
1. Items granted by your Prestige level
2. Items that access is gained through Adventure journals.
If it's not on either of the above lists, you can't have it plain and simple.
Unfortunately, that is exactly the rule. Perhaps in a future version of the organized play rules it will change.
That's pretty much what bracers of armor do. Clothing of armor would be essentially the same, only in a different body slot.
Aren't the bracers considered a force bonus and thus effective against incorporeal touch?
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That's pretty much what bracers of armor do. Clothing of armor would be essentially the same, only in a different body slot.Aren't the bracers considered a force bonus and thus effective against incorporeal touch?
the first paragraph says
"These items appear to be wrist or arm guards. They surround the wearer with an invisible but tangible field of force, granting him an armor bonus of +1 to +8, just as though he were wearing armor. Both bracers must be worn for the magic to be effective."
so i guess they are force
huh, didnt think about that