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Aelryinth wrote:

Mrs Marvel is pretty much Marvel's answer to Wonder Woman (not to Supergirl). They just went with blond instead of brunette. Powers almost the same, warrior background, probably the most all-around powerful of the mainline Marvel female heroes.

She-Hulk can be cool, but I never accepted her as anything more then a minor character. She's just not 'important' in the Marvel Universe. She's a platform for telling weird stories. And she's green. She's a Hulk spinoff, not much more.

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Catwoman gets tons o' love in DC. She and Diana are definitely the hottest of the DC raven-hairs. For Marvel's black haired caucasians, I'd give the nod to Aurora, then to Spiderwoman. Aurora's picture in the first Marvel Universe book was just incredible. :)

For redheads, Marvel's Jean Grey steals the show. I suppose Batgirl/Batwoman aren't bad, but they just don't have the charisma or following.

Brunettes, I'll take Rogue. I suppose Starfire is a brunette, too, as is Blackfire...:) But overdrawn aliens don't really belong in the contest, ahem...

For both Black women and platinum blonds, nobody in either universe measures up to Marvel's Ororo/Storm. DC doesn't even really have any contestants. I can't even remember the black supermodel with the animal power totem at the moment, isn't that bad?

For blonds, I have to take Ms. Marvel from Marvel over Black Canary from DC. No, Supergirl, you aren't in the running.

For green hair, um, She-Hulk. For purple hair, um, Psylocke (who also scoops up the Asian category...but then, I think she's only going up against, uh, DC's Docter Light?)

So, in sum, Marvel's got a ton more of the really hot women in comicdom...DC really only has Catwoman and WW, and it's probably because they are so concentrated on those two that they stand out and are so much better known.

==Aelryinth

Are you serious? if you include the subsids the list includes some of the most awesome and hot characters in comics.

Aleph (Global Frequency), Miranda Zero (Global Frequency), Death (Sandman and associated comics), Zee Hernandez (DMZ), Madame Xanadu (Madame Xanadu), Jakita Wagner (Planetary), Boy(The Invisibles), Ragged Robin (The invisibles), lord fanny (the Invisibles), though admittedly he is a man, but he still looks better in a dress than most of the character mentions, Jenny Sparks(Stormwatch, The Authority and Planetary). The list goes on and on.

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I don't know why we're sorting superheroes by hair color, but if we're doing that, I'd say the best blonde imo is DC's Lady Blackhawk.... looove them 1940s curves, and she can outshoot and outdrink anyone, I reckon.

Likewise, redheads. BARBARA GORDON, dude. Geez. Oracle is a lovely lady, and Jean Grey is scary because she goes crazy and we never know if she's dead or not. (I assume when you said "Batwoman" you meant whatzerface in the black and red outfit, as the current Batgirl is blonde, and Barbara hasn't been Batgirl in 20-30 years).

For Raven haired DC women, there's also Zatanna (hot and in fishnets), Vixen (hot and she's got a great physique), and Huntress (hot AND she makes a great rigatoni).

Let's see, as for men? Mmm, I'd say overall DC beats Marvel on that score. Marvel: Xavier's bald and gets into your head, Scott Summers is cute but an ass, Wolverine is all seedy and he probably smells. Gambit IS a cutie pie, so we'll chalk one for the auburn haired cajun in their favor. Peter Parker is meh, Bruce Banner is meh, Cable has too many Liefeld muscles. Tony Stark IS a playboy, but I just can't dig the pornstache. Nice body, though. All those other male X-men whose names I can't remember... eh, meh. Okay, Angel's alright.

But DC? Green Arrow, Catman, Bruce Wayne (he's less cute as Batman), Superman.... they're all definitely pretty. Nightwing, also cute as hell--knows how to carry that tall dark and handsome schtick without being a total dick, no pun intended. We've got Beast Boy if Green is more your style, he's grown up to be pretty solid there. Hawkman--eh, the wings would get in the way of doing certain things. Aquaman, no--not even with the beard and the hookhand. Jimmy Olson has nerd hotness going on. Of the Green Lanterns, Kyle Rayner definitely gets to win--pretty, pretty dark hair, lovely face, nice body, isn't an asshat. Hal's a b%%%# and looks like a horse, not even going into Guy Gardner. Can't remember his name, but the black Green Lantern IS cute too, but a little too reserved for my tastes. Hottest guy in DC IMO was a bit part character named Creote (auburn hair, huge guy, russian accent) but Gail Simone just killed him off for some reason I can't fathom.

But anyway... that's still like 8 hot guys, mostly of the tall dark and handsome variety with a couple blondes to spice it up, as opposed to Marvel's Gambit. DC wins on that score.

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Hmm, Marvel's 'equivelent' to WW would likely be Storm. Ms Marvel (I liked 'Warbird' better) and Shulkie would have potential if they were in the right hands. (Peter David once called Jen "Our Wonder Woman.")

As for hotness and visability, I think Marvel needs a good, high quality animated series, like JLU. I'd never heard of Vixen, or Mr. Terrific before the series, and that John Stewart is now my favourite GL. (That Vixen was voiced by Gina Torres just exponentially added to her hotness) Likewise, it's JLU that got me interested in the Question and huntress, and Green Arrow. I'd never even heard of Stargirl, STRIPE, Shining Knight, etc. before the show.

I think what bothes me about the 'reboot' is three things.

Matt's three things:

Spoiler:
1) It's a big deal about nothing. They can't completely blow up the universe/timeline. The stated goal (explaining WW's powers, making her more approachable) could have been handled in a 'year one' format a lot better. With this wonder woman, Donna Troy can't exist, neither can Cassie Sandmark. Harley's never gone through her 'rehab' Max Lord was never killed, etc. It will be 'fixed' but will inevitably create more continutiy errors, something they said they're trying to fix.

2) To me it disrupts the 'Trinity' thing they've been pushing for so long. One 'leg' is Batman, no family, except the one he crafted. Bruce Wayne is the alter-ego, Batman is the core psyche. His 'motif' is being driven by the death of his parents. Then there's Superman, who was adopted, a sole survivor of a doomed world. Taken in and loved by an adoptive family, who defines who he is. For superman, Clark Kent is the 'real' person, Superman is just a cape Clark puts on. Finally Wonder Woman sat as the third leg. Raised by her 'natural' mother and a loving family and a support group. Still has their love and support. "Diana Prince" is a convience, not a functioning cover like Bruce Wayne, and yet Diana is more than 'put some bracelets on me and call me Wonder Woman' like Clark is to Superman. Diana is always Wonder Woman. To be sexist, she's the hearth and home of the Trinity. Like I said elsewhere, Diana can bake the cookies, don't assume that's all she does.

I guess, in my mind, Clark is the caring Father, Diana is the loving mom, and Bruce is the Uncle no one talks about, doing the things that must be done, while making the hard choices. All three have a strong moral code, and part of their strengths is when those codes conflict. I think Geoff Jones got it right in Green Lantern. Bruce is fear, Diana is love, and Clark is most everything, but primarily hope.

3) The 'new origin' makes her less unique. This Diana is now a Batman style orphan, with the remaining amazons being her Alfred. She's also the 'sole survivor' of a doomed civilization, ala Superman. The Trinity has been collapsed into a line, with her stuck blandly in the middle. Futurama jokes aside, when's the last time you have read a stirring character that was true neutral?

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Back to the "Hotness in Comics" argument, why is everyone forgetting about Raven in the DCU??

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Matthew Morris wrote:
As for hotness and visability, I think Marvel needs a good, high quality animated series, like JLU. I'd never heard of Vixen, or Mr. Terrific before the series, and that John Stewart is now my favourite GL. (That Vixen was voiced by Gina Torres just exponentially added to her hotness) Likewise, it's JLU that got me interested in the Question and huntress, and Green Arrow. I'd never even heard of Stargirl, STRIPE, Shining Knight, etc. before the show.

The entire DC Animated Universe was AWESOME ... and actually holds togther better then the "official" universe.

Marvel just needs to lure away Bruce Tim! You are absolutely right. That is what Marvel could really use...

... that and barbecuing Mark Millar with charcoal made from the body of Joe Quesada.

Spoiler:
Yes, Civil War gave me an almost limitless hate for Mark Millar!

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Agreed on the DC animated universe, but the X-Men TV series from the 90s was pretty damn good too. It's what made me familiar with a lot of the X-Men characters before I picked up any comics. And like DCUA, cleaned up the continuity while keeping what was GOOD about it.

While we're barbecuing people, can we throw Dan Didio from DC on the fire while we're at it?

I'm really surprised anything good at all's come out since he was in charge, and most of the good stuff seems to be flukes.

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DeathQuaker wrote:
Agreed on the DC animated universe, but the X-Men TV series from the 90s was pretty damn good too. It's what made me familiar with a lot of the X-Men characters before I picked up any comics. And like DCUA, cleaned up the continuity while keeping what was GOOD about it.

This is true. Now, I need to go find it on DVD. :)

DeathQuaker wrote:
While we're barbecuing people, can we throw Dan Didio from DC on the fire while we're at it?

Heck Yeah! The man is a menace.

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I DID mention Barbara Gordon (she's the original Batgirl. Surely you don't think I meant the new one?)

Vixen. Yes, she went under black women. I can never tell if her hair is black or auburn.

Lady Blackhawk is nice, but a very minor character. Jakita Wagner is nice, but in neither universe, technically. The rest...all minor players who get no show time. Zatanna, meh.

==Aelryinth

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Aelryinth wrote:
I DID mention Barbara Gordon (she's the original Batgirl. Surely you don't think I meant the new one?)

I did. I don't consider Barbara to be Batgirl any more, any more than I consider Dick Grayson to be Robin. They are Oracle and Nightwing to me (and much better and more interesting characters for it, IMO).

Actually, I consider Cassie Cain to be Batgirl still, to be honest, but I'm willing to give Steph a chance.


DeathQuaker wrote:
Aelryinth wrote:
I DID mention Barbara Gordon (she's the original Batgirl. Surely you don't think I meant the new one?)

I did. I don't consider Barbara to be Batgirl any more, any more than I consider Dick Grayson to be Robin. They are Oracle and Nightwing to me (and much better and more interesting characters for it, IMO).

Actually, I consider Cassie Cain to be Batgirl still, to be honest, but I'm willing to give Steph a chance.

I"m still miffed she didn't get more time as Robin. I would prefer that to Batgirl, actually. Cassie Cain as Batgirl was inspired, even if I didn't read the book too often. It pissed off all the wrong people when the stuffed Steph inside the suit.

I still remember the run of webcomics mocking DC for what they did with the character, and I'm still upset over the overall reaction of Super(girlie)girl.

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I am a big fan of Zatanna. While I'm not the biggest fan of fishnets and high heels, it's certainly better than the pale blue and pop-out-red bodysuit.

And we've forgotten Mera.

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Chris Mortika wrote:

I am a big fan of Zatanna. While I'm not the biggest fan of fishnets and high heels, it's certainly better than the pale blue and pop-out-red bodysuit.

And we've forgotten Mera.

I didn't forget Mera, anymore then I forgot the Scarlet Witch or Titania. Neither made the cut. Now, the Black Widow I did forget, and depending on who draws her, she can be smoking hot or merely dead sexy.

===Aelryinth

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Chris Mortika wrote:
Abbasax wrote:
Why is that appalling? It's not the phrasing I'd use, but I don't find it insulting in the least.

Well, you see, a number of folks, including some you know and respect, have put forth the claim that theywere bothered by JMS's interview, in particular when he said "What woman only wears only one outfit for 60-plus years?” and made comment about Wonder Woman knowing how to accessorize, in the context of designing the new costume and developing the current story-arc. The critics considered those comments snarky and disrespectful to the character.

Meanwhile, in the front of the book, Lynda Carter makes the same kind of statements in the context of her respect for the character, and gets a free pass.

Either the comments are sexist and paternalistic, or they're not. Or, they're sexist when they're JMS's, but not when they're Carter's.

Now that I have finally gotten my issue of #600, I can comment on this. And I can say--yes, clearly it is an issue of context. Let's look at what both people said:

Lynda Carter wrote:


"Did you bring your Lasso of Truth?" people ask me, and I have to laugh. But it's true--Wonder Woman accessorizes. She is, after all, a very savvy woman. But as we all know, form follows function. Everything she wears has a purpose: her golden bracelets deflect bullets, her Venus Girdle endows her with superhuman strength, her tiara boomerangs, and her lasso holds others to the truth that she, herself, lives by. And that's just what we can see. Wonder Woman's intellect is her real power. She's honest and disarming, and she kicks butt.

and later...

Lynda Carter wrote:


That said, her costume and accessories don't define the essence of Wonder Woman. She is the "Secret Self" inside every woman--the beautiful, unafraid, tenacious, and powerful woman we know resides within us.

And now:

J. Michael Straczynski wrote:


We have to remember here that when Wonder Woman was introduced in 1941, nearly 70 years ago, her outfit was designed with a 1940s sensibility. Though the skirt and heels have come and gone, it's almost identical to what we have today. While other characters, from Batman and Superman and others throughout the DC Universe, have undergone substantial changes over the years, Wonder Woman has remained pretty much the same in appearance. (With the exception of the mod look used briefly in the 1960s... about which the less is said, the better.) What woman only wears one outfit for 70 years? What woman doesn't accessorize? And more to the point, as many women have lamented over the years.... how does she fight in that thing?

And later...

J. Michael Straczynski wrote:


So we came in at this from a 21st Century perspective. Visually, I wanted her to look strong and tough but still quite beautiful. Let's give her clothes that she can fight in, that add to her presence and strength and her power.

Regarding the "accessories" comments--I can see why some people took offense at Straczynski's comment and not Carter's. Ms. Carter is saying, "Yes, Wonder Woman accessorizes: but there's a deeper purpose here, that tells us about the more hidden strengths of the character." Conversely, Mr. Straczynski's comment is "What woman doesn't accessorize?" is a bit more flippant, and in its wording is a comment about all women, not just Wonder Woman. (To be fair, I guess you could take Carter's comment about Wonder Woman being a "savvy woman" to suggest a similarly general phrase, but the tone is a little less informal and she gets away to a deeper discussion faster.)

What I find interesting is that Carter uses the visual cues of Wonder Woman's old costume (particularly the one she wore) to take the reader to a deeper discussion about what Wonder Woman represents on an internal level. Straczynski eventually gets to Wonder Woman's personal strengths and has some very interesting things to say about them, but he spends a LOT more time talking about her physical appearance first, all with an introductory comment suggesting that it is women who are concerned with the visual ("what woman doesn't accessorize").

I'm sure Straczynski did not mean to be disrespectful, but I can see how the often very sensitive Wonder Woman fandom would take his comments that way, and indeed, I do feel that in the context provided, what Carter said and Straczynski said are very different things, even if they moth mention "accessorizing." In fact, despite Carter's piece being an introduction, I have to wonder if she was given what he wrote before she wrote her piece, because it almost reads like she's providing a rebuttal to his comments.

To be fair to Stracynski, he does say some nice and interesting things about Wonder Woman as a character (see his second quote for one), but I wish he had organized those thoughts more strongly and gotten away from the costume discussion a bit more. Jim Lee's comments were enough on that matter.

As an ASIDE, many of Straczynski's comments are also inaccurate, as Wonder Woman's costume has changed many times (just go to Carol Strickland's Web site to see) and that overall, while all three of the "Big Three's" costumes have certainly changed, Batman's and Superman's are no more different than Wonder Woman's as compared to their Golden Age counterparts. In fact, I think Wonder Woman's costume is still more different from 1941 than Superman's is (largely, the size of the S is different amongst a few other small adjustments).

And further, the costume they've put her in now is no more practical than the traditional costume. In fact, she's about as likely to pop out of that top as she ever was, and if those pants are as tight as they look, her movement would realistically be more restricted (now, if they're stretchy spandex, they'll move, but no sane woman would do action work in pants that don't breathe well).

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Here is an updated picture of the new costume.

It is not bad. Just lose the jacket!
... And, I am still not sure about the boots/shoes.

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Lord Fyre wrote:

Here is an updated picture of the new costume.

It is not bad. Just lose the jacket!
... And, I am still not sure about the boots/shoes.

Perhaps the most ironic thing for me is that I like the jacket.

But then I wear loud shirts and take pride in my mullet, so I'm not a natural costume designer ;-)

Edit: And I agree with what some other posters have said: This is Donna's outfit, not Diana's

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I think if they took away the jacket and gave her red boots, it would actually look like Wonder Woman in a new outfit, rather than the outcast love child of 90s Superboy and Donna Troy.

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DeathQuaker wrote:
I think if they took away the jacket and gave her red boots, it would actually look like Wonder Woman in a new outfit, rather than the outcast love child of 90s Superboy and Donna Troy.

Yes. That would feel like a more "natural" evolution of here classic look.

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Lord Fyre wrote:
DeathQuaker wrote:
I think if they took away the jacket and gave her red boots, it would actually look like Wonder Woman in a new outfit, rather than the outcast love child of 90s Superboy and Donna Troy.
Yes. That would feel like a more "natural" evolution of here classic look.

well this at least makes me feel better:

comicbookresources wrote:
JMS reiterated a discussion yesterday that Wonder Woman will be appearing in other titles, but Donna Troy and Wonder Girl will not be affected. “Phantom Stranger and Deadman know her from both worlds,” he said, but for most characters, “This happens in a bubble—it's not like she was married and then wasn't and nobody remembered she was ever married.”


Yes, this is smart - give her new origin...
and, while you're at it, make sure that you get rid of that iconic look.

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GRU wrote:

Yes, this is smart - give her new origin...

and, while you're at it, make sure that you get rid of that iconic look.

Hey, I'm just happy Donna and Cassie don't get screwed. (Though I assume they'll keep Diana the hell away from them). I like Donna and Cassie more than Diana.


My wife's comment: "I'm sure she's excited to, you know, be warmer."


. . . and now you can add to the title "oh yeah, and a new writer too," since JMS left his "groundbreaking" work on Superman and Wonder Woman to finish up Earth One projects. Obviously very important storylines . . .

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KnightErrantJR wrote:
. . . and now you can add to the title "oh yeah, and a new writer too," since JMS left his "groundbreaking" work on Superman and Wonder Woman to finish up Earth One projects. Obviously very important storylines . . .

He left WW after only 4 issues. I've read that this is becoming a trend for him.

Phil Hester is taking on finishing the current story. I'm curious to see where it will go, because frankly, the last 4 issues have in fact bored me to tears.


DeathQuaker wrote:


He left WW after only 4 issues. I've read that this is becoming a trend for him.

Phil Hester is taking on finishing the current story. I'm curious to see where it will go, because frankly, the last 4 issues have in fact bored me to tears.

I was pretty bored after two, since the crux of both seemed to be "she doesn't have all of her old powers, and she is going to fight lots of mysterious thugs with guns."

I'm sure it was going somewhere, it just didn't seem to be worried about how long it took to get there, which is the same problem that the "Grounded" storyline in Superman had.

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Of all the characters in the DC continuum, Wonder Woman is the worst choice to hve a kind of False Reality constructed around her, because she's the paragon of Truth. At one point, she was the friggin' goddess of Truth.


Chris Mortika wrote:
Of all the characters in the DC continuum, Wonder Woman is the worst choice to hve a kind of False Reality constructed around her, because she's the paragon of Truth. At one point, she was the friggin' goddess of Truth.

I wouldn't place any bets on JMS actually knowing that bit of information. I know, that probably sounds harsh, but I just didn't get the impression he was particularly "up" on the more recent years of the character's history, in part based on the things he complained had never been done with the character that oddly had been done by other writers, and fairly recently.


Wonder Woman = Lynda Carter.

If it looks like Lynda, it looks like Wonder Woman.

And the pants are hokey.

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Bridget Regan = Wonder Woman
Anything less is unacceptable.


Kthulhu wrote:

Bridget Regan = Wonder Woman

Anything less is unacceptable.

Ya know, I'm gonna roll with that.

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KnightErrantJR wrote:
Chris Mortika wrote:
Of all the characters in the DC continuum, Wonder Woman is the worst choice to hve a kind of False Reality constructed around her, because she's the paragon of Truth. At one point, she was the friggin' goddess of Truth.
I wouldn't place any bets on JMS actually knowing that bit of information. I know, that probably sounds harsh, but I just didn't get the impression he was particularly "up" on the more recent years of the character's history, in part based on the things he complained had never been done with the character that oddly had been done by other writers, and fairly recently.

Then the editors should have sat him down and made sure he was up to date.

Oh, wait, did I just imply that Dan Didio should do something editorially responsible?

My bad.

I can deal with the alternate reality thing as it is essentially the world being rewritten, not Diana (in her basic essence). Or something. But she should have figured out by now that something isn't right.

Regarding actresses:

I've been a fan of Lynda Carter since I was three years old. Always will have a special spot in my heart for her (and of course my LE Lynda-as-Wonder-Woman statue has the place of honor in my shelf of female action figures :) ).

At the same time, I'm fine with the role being passed down--Lynda Carter shouldn't be the only Wonder Woman any more than George Reeves should have been the only Superman (and obviously he wasn't).

But I think they should do the same thing they did when they cast Lynda Carter: find a relatively unknown actress which places few expectations on the audience, find the RIGHT woman who has the charm and the warmth and the mixture of naivete and knowing wisdom, and physically the height and the fitness and can carry off the bronzed dark hairedness.


DeathQuaker wrote:

Then the editors should have sat him down and made sure he was up to date.

Oh, wait, did I just imply that Dan Didio should do something editorially responsible?

My bad.

You'll have to forgive him. He was busy slaughtering characters right and left and reclining on his throne of skulls.

DeathQuaker wrote:

I can deal with the alternate reality thing as it is essentially the world being rewritten, not Diana (in her basic essence). Or something. But she should have figured out by now that something isn't right.

Regarding actresses:

I've been a fan of Lynda Carter since I was three years old. Always will have a special spot in my heart for her (and of course my LE Lynda-as-Wonder-Woman statue has the place of honor in my shelf of female action figures :) ).

At the same time, I'm fine with the role being passed down--Lynda Carter shouldn't be the only Wonder Woman any more than George Reeves should have been the only Superman (and obviously he wasn't).

But I think they should do the same thing they did when they cast Lynda Carter: find a relatively unknown actress which places few expectations on the audience, find the RIGHT woman who has the charm and the warmth and the mixture of naivete and knowing wisdom, and physically the height and the fitness and can carry off the bronzed dark hairedness.

She will have a cameo in the movie, I'm sure. As should you! :-D What were your thoughts on the animated movie?

In terms of who I think should play Wonder Woman...god. Angelina Jolie's a bit too old now, though I think she should appear in it. I really don't know, though. She seems to be a hard character to find an actress for.

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DeathQuaker wrote:

Regarding actresses:

I've been a fan of Lynda Carter since I was three years old. Always will have a special spot in my heart for her (and of course my LE Lynda-as-Wonder-Woman statue has the place of honor in my shelf of female action figures :) ).

At the same time, I'm fine with the role being passed down--Lynda Carter shouldn't be the only Wonder Woman any more than George Reeves should have been the only Superman (and obviously he wasn't).

But I think they should do the same thing they did when they cast Lynda Carter: find a relatively unknown actress which places few expectations on the audience, find the RIGHT woman who has the charm and the warmth and the mixture of naivete and knowing wisdom, and physically the height and the fitness and can carry off the bronzed dark hairedness.

This! Is! WonderWoman! *chestkick* She has the build, she has the skills. She's the right age for a trilogy (28 this year). She's fairly unknown.

As for Lynda Carter in a cameo, Hippolyeta (sp) is perfect for her.

It was my understanding her appearance in Sky High was to be a nod to WW, but Warner wouldn't let Disney do it (pre-Marvel buyout, obviously).


Megan Gale did get cast for the last (unfruitful) attempt at starting up a Justice League movie, although she's probably not still attached to any current project.

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Freehold DM wrote:
DeathQuaker wrote:

Then the editors should have sat him down and made sure he was up to date.

Oh, wait, did I just imply that Dan Didio should do something editorially responsible?

My bad.

You'll have to forgive him. He was busy slaughtering characters right and left and reclining on his throne of skulls.

I picture him having a throne of refrigerators. With carved up women inside, of course. ;)

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She will have a cameo in the movie, I'm sure. As should you! :-D What were your thoughts on the animated movie?

I should totally play Etta Candy. ;p

It wasn't bad, but they made her and the Amazons a bit straw feminist-y in part, which annoys me.

I understand the naivete bit about not understanding men, but part of the point of Wonder Woman is that she loves and is tolerant of everyone.


KnightErrantJR wrote:
Megan Gale did get cast for the last (unfruitful) attempt at starting up a Justice League movie, although she's probably not still attached to any current project.

Good. Shes a horrible cow.

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Shifty wrote:
KnightErrantJR wrote:
Megan Gale did get cast for the last (unfruitful) attempt at starting up a Justice League movie, although she's probably not still attached to any current project.
Good. Shes a horrible cow.

I don't like calling anyone I've never met a horrible cow but yet... are you sure you're not confusing her for Megan Fox?

That is to say, I've not heard much bad press about Megan Gale, but I have about Fox (who is also tall, fit, and dark haired).

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DeathQuaker wrote:
Shifty wrote:
KnightErrantJR wrote:
Megan Gale did get cast for the last (unfruitful) attempt at starting up a Justice League movie, although she's probably not still attached to any current project.
Good. Shes a horrible cow.

I don't like calling anyone I've never met a horrible cow but yet... are you sure you're not confusing her for Megan Fox?

That is to say, I've not heard much bad press about Megan Gale, but I have about Fox (who is also tall, fit, and dark haired).

In Megan Fox's defense she'd be perfect for Wonder Woman

Spoiler:
as the stiff unmoving clay figure before she's brought to life.


Matthew Morris wrote:
DeathQuaker wrote:
Shifty wrote:
KnightErrantJR wrote:
Megan Gale did get cast for the last (unfruitful) attempt at starting up a Justice League movie, although she's probably not still attached to any current project.
Good. Shes a horrible cow.

I don't like calling anyone I've never met a horrible cow but yet... are you sure you're not confusing her for Megan Fox?

That is to say, I've not heard much bad press about Megan Gale, but I have about Fox (who is also tall, fit, and dark haired).

In Megan Fox's defense she'd be perfect for Wonder Woman

** spoiler omitted **

She really disappointed me in Jennifer's Body. Although that movie was PURE cheesecake. More than a little bit of it could be attributed to a bad script, though.


DeathQuaker wrote:


I don't like calling anyone I've never met a horrible cow but yet... are you sure you're not confusing her for Megan Fox?

Well I'm running with first hand info, having crossed paths a few times in the past. For such a large country, you'll find Australia is surprisingly small (in that 'village' kinda way!)

The way she deals with 'the help', ie airline staff, is a disgrace.

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Freehold DM wrote:

Meh. I like the new look,but its not going to be there forever, so the old guard is going to have to deal for a few issues. The original look IS iconic, but it's also rather silly if it isn't updated every few years. At the very least ditch the star-laden bikini bottom or skirt- that's lead to sooooooo many bad jokes over the years.

Did my women's studies course and it turns out the idea of Wonder Woman losing her powers has been quite heavily debated over the years- some found it offensive that she lost the only power she had, others were happy that she didn't "need" her powers to fight crime. In many ways, it was the Bewitched/I Dream of Jeannie argument, just for a comic book.

I remember the original Gloria Steinem editorial that was done when WW was the cover for t he first issue of MS. magazine, it specifically address what I called Leisure Suit Diana. She did look like a female version of Leisure Suit Larry back then.


News story: Wonder Woman heading to NBC

Quote: "NBC has now given the show the go-ahead..."

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Aaron Bitman wrote:

News story: Wonder Woman heading to NBC

Quote: "NBC has now given the show the go-ahead..."

Read about this on Spinoff Online Here

I do agree with Kevin Melrose's concerns.

Spinoff Online wrote:
However, Wonder Woman fans still may have cause for concern. If Deadline’s information is correct, Kelley’s take on the nearly 70-year-old superheroine will differ dramatically from her portrayals in the comic books or the ’70s TV series: Here she’ll be Diana Prince, a vigilante crimefighter and successful corporate executive in Los Angeles who tries to “balance all of the elements of her extraordinary life.”

I could see one way this would work that would satisfy me, and not be 'Allie McLasso'

Spoiler:
Diana Prince is sucessful corporate executive, cold b&*&+, drives the car, etc. She gets mugged one night and does the superstrength thing, throwing him into/through a wall. She spends season 1 discovering herself, that her past is a lie etc. Finally in the midseason clifthanger of season one, she gets the lasso and bracelets and discovers the person who's frakked with her life.. Circe.

Second half we get our Wonder Woman, who then tries to do the Bruce Wayne thing but be true to her 'new' self. We can then introduce the Amazons, and the greek thing slowly.

This would allow for 'reimaging' of other characters in Wondy's life as well.

Think of Steve Trevor as being kind of like Rhody to her Antonia Stark.

Cheeta (JLU style) as a member of her R&D team, who's project 'cold' Diana cut.

Donna Troy could then be another of Circe's 'victims' that Diana finds, and she's a 'little sister' amazon. Mix her with Cassie a bit, in giving her various magic items to reach Wonder girl level powers.


But I'm not a successful TV executive.

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