Mounted Archery and a single move


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If a player is on a mount and has that mount take a single move action while taking a full attack with his bow does he take any penalties? It seems to me he should and that this is an unintended way to get a full attack with a move.

My reasoning: When you make a full attack while your mount does a double move you take a -4 penalty. A double move is just using a single move action twice (the penalty coming from firing while your mount is moving). Since you have to fire while your mount is moving to get the full attack (it is clearly stated that if you wait until you stop moving you can only attack as a standard action) you should take the same penalty.

Was this the game designers intent? It is not stated anywhere. I would really like a game designer to answer this question on intent as it seems to me that the intent was for anyone who take a full attack while their mount moves should take a penalty. If you fire while you take a single move action you should take that same penalty.

Can a game designer tell me if this was taken into acount when the rule was made or just overlooked?


tasslehoff220 wrote:

If a player is on a mount and has that mount take a single move action while taking a full attack with his bow does he take any penalties? It seems to me he should and that this is an unintended way to get a full attack with a move.

My reasoning: When you make a full attack while your mount does a double move you take a -4 penalty. A double move is just using a single move action twice (the penalty coming from firing while your mount is moving). Since you have to fire while your mount is moving to get the full attack (it is clearly stated that if you wait until you stop moving you can only attack as a standard action) you should take the same penalty.

Was this the game designers intent? It is not stated anywhere. I would really like a game designer to answer this question on intent as it seems to me that the intent was for anyone who take a full attack while their mount moves should take a penalty. If you fire while you take a single move action you should take that same penalty.

Can a game designer tell me if this was taken into acount when the rule was made or just overlooked?

The rule was in place in 3.5 and continues in Pathfinder. A mounted archer can have his mount take a single move and get a full attack with no penalties.


Read the ride skill in the book.


Eric Tillemans wrote:

The rule was in place in 3.5 and continues in Pathfinder. A mounted archer can have his mount take a single move and get a full attack with no penalties.

Yup, This rule has led to the banning of many a riding dog from tables across the land. And gives some indication of why the Mongols were such bad asses.

I prefer to counter with Fireball, YMMV :)


I hate to necro this thread by almost two years, but as it came up in my search for a mounted archery character, I thought this might be helpful to others:

Mounted Skirmisher (Combat)
You are adept at attacking from upon a swift moving steed.

Prerequisites: Ride rank 14, Mounted Combat, Trick Riding.

Benefit: If your mount moves its speed or less, you can still take a full-attack action.

Normal: If your mount moves more than 5 feet, you can only take an attack action.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/mounted-skirmisher-combat

This would seem to indicate that a mounted archer would only get one attack after his mount moves a full move action. Can someone show me where the rule the guys above is located?


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SkyHaussmann wrote:


This would seem to indicate that a mounted archer would only get one attack after his mount moves a full move action. Can someone show me where the rule the guys above is located?

From page 202 in the Core Rulebook:

You can use ranged weapons while your mount is taking a
double move, but at a –4 penalty on the attack roll. You can
use ranged weapons while your mount is running (quadruple
speed) at a –8 penalty. In either case, you make the attack roll
when your mount has completed half its movement. You can
make a full attack with a ranged weapon while your mount is
moving.

Mounted Skirmisher is meant to apply to melee attacks, not ranged.


SkyHaussmann wrote:

I hate to necro this thread by almost two years, but as it came up in my search for a mounted archery character, I thought this might be helpful to others:

Mounted Skirmisher (Combat)
You are adept at attacking from upon a swift moving steed.

Prerequisites: Ride rank 14, Mounted Combat, Trick Riding.

Benefit: If your mount moves its speed or less, you can still take a full-attack action.

Normal: If your mount moves more than 5 feet, you can only take an attack action.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/mounted-skirmisher-combat

This would seem to indicate that a mounted archer would only get one attack after his mount moves a full move action. Can someone show me where the rule the guys above is located?

We're sorry you necro'd it too. What you're referencing applies to melee attacks. Archers can still take a full attack.

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