nature spirit shaman


Rules Questions


Can the shamans familiar choose to remain in its base forum but still get the benefits from being an animal companion when they reach lvl 16 or is it forced to take the animal companion forum?


I'm not sure that I follow. What do you mean by "base form"? The way the ability reads the familiar is effectively both a familiar and an animal companion gaining all the abilities of both.


I mean can I choose to have it remain in its tiny familiar forum or is it forced into the large size animal companion forum.


It doesn't say 'can' or anything like that, it just says that it 'takes the form of an animal companion' which I read as there being no choice.


Well that's a bummer.


A more interesting question to me is whether the animal companion/familiar can keep familiar archetypes - Valet, for example. Sharing teamwork feats with your animal companion is typically much more useful than doing so with your familiar.


River of Sticks wrote:
A more interesting question to me is whether the animal companion/familiar can keep familiar archetypes - Valet, for example. Sharing teamwork feats with your animal companion is typically much more useful than doing so with your familiar.

seems like it would, it says

True Spirit Ability wrote:
The animal retains all the special abilities and the Intelligence score of the spirit animal

so, it gets to keep whatever it had regardless how it got it. In theory you could also take animal companion archetypes. So, you could take the Feytouched archetype so that it at least will be smaller, thanks to the "small but fierce" trait.


True Spirit Ability wrote:
The animal retains all the special abilities and the Intelligence score of the spirit animal

For extra Argument-From-Ambiguity, take the Improved Familiar feat and try to keep your Arbiter (Inevitable)'s Regeneration(Chaotic) abiliy.

But then, since this is a capstone ability, that's not really too terribly over-the-top...


I'll be going mauler familiar, more str to help it flip things over when it gets mad or upset, and because I'm taking mauler improved familiar is a no go, plus it wouldn't stack with the other spirits ability of fast healing 1(my party is generally lacking on healing so a thing I can pick up that will help keep my companion alive and help stop the party from dying to quickly is a 2 for one bonus) plus I already have my heart set on a familiar already and won't be changing it.

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