As an old 2e player, i recently found old books while digging in my closet, it brought back alot of fond memories. I'm curious how many remember this old setting, how many actually played it and further how many would actually pick it up again if they got a chance?
Recently stumbled on old books made me go looking for a 3.5 version which i actually found! at first i thought was an outdated 3.0 copy but upon looking its copyright as of 2010, meaning its fairly new! mentioning both pathfinder and dragon magazines, its a bit tweaked and still a beta. So interesting got some friends are going to give it a whirl come next week, so i was just curious how many out there still remember this, as its one of my favorites of old days, its really nice to pick it up and give it a whirl once again!
P.s: also if any knows how to contact author of this, love to send them feedback no e-mail address or information pertaining to this =\ all i got is the name.
I remember it, but didn't actually care for the setting that much.
I wasn't aware anyone had adapted it to 3.5. It was a fairly nice setting and one the best examples of how playing monsters can be very fun in D&D.
Looks like Bill Slavicsek is still writing for Wizards (as Director of RPG R&D) I guess you could send a message to their customer service to pass along.
Mind linking to the 3.5 remake site, if its legal?
I wasn't aware anyone had adapted it to 3.5. It was a fairly nice setting and one the best examples of how playing monsters can be very fun in D&D.
Looks like Bill Slavicsek is still writing for Wizards (as Director of RPG R&D) I guess you could send a message to their customer service to pass along.
Mind linking to the 3.5 remake site, if its legal?
Ok well went back to site... Scribd was name of it, seems wizard asked them to remove it. Obviously violating something i wonder what though, looking copy over again only thing isn't purely fan based seems to be feats listed from other source books(which they note and give credit to). I'd love to pass this along but seems may be diffcult now... guess lucky i grabbed it before it was taken down. I assumed was ok since was a fan made and based seems questionable now.
Could be that copied some of the feats into the pdf? or used some of old Art? confused as to what violated to get it removed.
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I wasn't aware anyone had adapted it to 3.5. It was a fairly nice setting and one the best examples of how playing monsters can be very fun in D&D.
Looks like Bill Slavicsek is still writing for Wizards (as Director of RPG R&D) I guess you could send a message to their customer service to pass along.
Mind linking to the 3.5 remake site, if its legal?
Ok well went back to site... Scribd was name of it, seems wizard asked them to remove it. Obviously violating something i wonder what though, looking copy over again only thing isn't purely fan based seems to be feats listed from other source books(which they note and give credit to). I'd love to pass this along but seems may be diffcult now... guess lucky i grabbed it before it was taken down. I assumed was ok since was a fan made and based seems questionable now.
Could be that copied some of the feats into the pdf? or used some of old Art? confused as to what violated to get it removed.
Scribd? Ah, yes. Sometimes called the "facebook of documents." Has a notorious rep for housing IP and copyright materials. Gotta watch it there.
What could have irked WotC? Well, if the author above used any non OSC, IP like the Dark Sun(tm) name, any art, logos, claims it has been published (like that 2010 copyright you mentioned), Pathfinder(tm), Dragon Magazine(tm), etc.
If they used old artwork, or reprinted any part of the original setting material that would have done it for sure. Oh well, one could have hoped something like the officially authorized Birthright fansite (birthright.net) had been done. Guess not.
Given how 3.5 (or Pathfinder) handles monsters it wouldn't be to hard to use the original 2e fluff if you have it. The only elements you'd need to redress would be humanoid cohort. Again not to hard when you accept that the power level of the game is going to be skewed with Dragon PCs.
It is to bad that Wizards decided to pull their back catalog from digital redistribution.
i could probably pull text off, to remove images, and remove any content pertaining to actual feats(just list them) and would probably make it postable i would assume yes? some one out have a better idea of what is ok and whats not ok to keep in the file i assume, any detailed descriptions of feats, pictures, or direct copys of pages of books are out, but anything else should still be ok right?
I did a personal conversion.
The progression was 1 age category per 2 levels. This made an age 12 dragon on par with a level 24 character. Then I gave each type of dragon a ECL modifier. Gold dragons were -2 age categorys, Silver were -1, etc.
Then I had 4 "classes" to represent the way that a dragon can specialize.
Standard path - You use the standard dragon rules and abilities.
Fighter path - You give up you inate spell and gain fighter feats
Cleric path - Give up inate spells, your BaB drops to 3/4 of your HD, gain cleric spells
Sorcerer path - Give up inate spells, your BaB drops to 1/2 HD, gain sorcerer spells
Since there are no ECL in PF, I need to figure out another way to handle the power difference between the various types of dragons.
So putting all the information from that pdf into a text document, removing all images, and feat descriptions and information from wotc, and dumbing it down to just bare classes, and basic information to play it. Will reference, books can find additional information(such as feats, and such) and i'll put it up for those want to use it or at least look at it. Removing anything i think would irritate wotc.
I played it a couple of times, and enjoyed it. The character I remember the most was a mist dragon... fun times.
Wow, talk about a flashback. Still have the Box set, yeah...it was indeed grand to play a dragon.
But took a long time to grow (snicker), but Dragons tend to do that.
I actually still have the set in storage somewhere.
Still have the old Wrath of the Immortals stuff, too. And a Poor Wizard's Almanac.
Ahhh, the good old days...
-Sharing a tissue-
I actually still have the set in storage somewhere.
Still have the old Wrath of the Immortals stuff, too. And a Poor Wizard's Almanac.
Ahhh, the good old days...
Alright i took all info copy/pasted it into a document but i dont have word so i used open office so if open this in word may have formatting issues... hoping its still readable and not to terrible. Also not saying its in great quality i fixed what i could but didnt paste to terrible well(in fact open license part i didnt bother to fix text around in it). But should be decent enough i hope.
I removed all of images so shouldn't be any copyright issues if some one sees something think might cause issues post here and i'll try and fix it, otherwise enjoy what this person has done =)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YYW27O8S
It's been a long time since I played there. Good times with a party of 3 half-dragons and assorted others as I recall...
gonna move this thread to homebrewed area, and probably edit somethings myself are a few aspects stay tuned for more!
I played Council of Wyrms (2E of course) for 1 campaign. One friend played a wyrmling silver dragon, another a wyrmling red, and I played a Derro thief/mage. It was pretty cool. In fact, I took it and incorporated it into my homebrew campaign world, with the council of wyrms, and created a knighthood of dragon defenders (as a kit, then a prestige class)that are separate but work in conjunction with the Council on behalf of dragon kind and humanoid inter-relations. I converted it with each new edition (3.0/3.5) but never did a Pathfinder conversion. I also incorporated other dragons (like adamantine, steel, etc.) and placed them under the pervue of one of the three dragon groups (chromatic, gem, or metallic). Only played that one campaign though. Used it mostly for flavor and options for story lines.