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What? We have a major wit problem!


You're half right.

Scarab Sages

<------- worked out at the 'Y'

And in the wise words of the incredible Shrek -- "Ow"

RPG Superstar 2012

Freehold DM wrote:

[FURTHER EDIT] Slight error in the above post. It should read...

It works like this. 1d4 sneak attack damage every level unless you decide to add something to your sneak attack- the best example is poison use, but I'm also considering certain negative conditions as well. You choose the poison or condition you're using before you make the sneak attack, and provided it hits you force the opponent to make a save(usually Fort, though not always) vs the number you just rolled or they suffer from the condition. I'm currently thinking the opponent doesn't take damage from sneak attacks that hinge on causing conditions, but if its considered too "weak" then I'm up for changing it in some way- the only reason I don't want it to do a lot of damage is because I don't want it to be used EVERY round with EVERY sneak attack- that'd be a little too much, and I want there to be some forethought put into it. Furthermore, I'm also thinking sneak attacks would only be possible once a round when using these rules.

Italicized things are what I should have put in there the FIRST time around. Thoughts?

You may now continue with your thread, already in progress.

That sounds reasonable to me. Now that you mention it, raw sneak attack damage should be better than applying a condition/poison. Have you ever looked at the Complete Rogue sourcebook (3.5 splattybook from WoTC)? It's got a similar mechanic to what you're looking for, except it trades out dice of damage for a condition.

Liberty's Edge

Work on my campaign

VS

Hang out with those friends who'll be disappointed Saturday if I don't work on my campaign.

Choices...

RPG Superstar 2012

Treppa wrote:
By now, I should know better than to read comments on the major news boards. People think they are witty, but they're not.

Those people are half right. :)


Studpuffin wrote:

Work on my campaign

VS

Hang out with those friends who'll be disappointed Saturday if I don't work on my campaign.

Choices...

Arrange an "accident" for those friends, so you don't have to worry about making the choice.

Liberty's Edge

Wet Blanket wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:

Work on my campaign

VS

Hang out with those friends who'll be disappointed Saturday if I don't work on my campaign.

Choices...

Arrange an "accident" for those friends, so you don't have to worry about making the choice.

I would, but the law of luck-to-blunderance ratios indicates that any trap I would use to ensnare or kill said persons would inevitably fail as they'd kill themselves off before reaching that point.

Silver Crusade

Treppa wrote:
By now, I should know better than to read comments on the major news boards. People think they are witty, but they're not. I'm glad Paizo doesn't have that problem. Usually.

Too often when I read news stories online I find myself reading the comments beneath them. I really need to stop doing that.


Studpuffin wrote:
Wet Blanket wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:

Work on my campaign

VS

Hang out with those friends who'll be disappointed Saturday if I don't work on my campaign.

Choices...

Arrange an "accident" for those friends, so you don't have to worry about making the choice.
I would, but the law of luck-to-blunderance ratios indicates that any trap I would use to ensnare or kill said persons would inevitably fail as they'd kill themselves off before reaching that point.

Make said friends cut the grass and wash the dogs while you work on the campaign for them. By work on the campaign, I mean play Fallout 3. You can BS the campaign better than anyone I know.

Sovereign Court

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
What? We have a major wit problem!

I feel witty, oh so witty...


Celestial Healer wrote:
Treppa wrote:
By now, I should know better than to read comments on the major news boards. People think they are witty, but they're not. I'm glad Paizo doesn't have that problem. Usually.
Too often when I read news stories online I find myself reading the comments beneath them. I really need to stop doing that.

I'm generally optimistic, but comments make me doubt the viability of the species. The lack of analytical thought I can live with, but the utter meanness of spirit of some posters is appalling.

Liberty's Edge

Treppa, Agent of C.H.A.O.S wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
Wet Blanket wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:

Work on my campaign

VS

Hang out with those friends who'll be disappointed Saturday if I don't work on my campaign.

Choices...

Arrange an "accident" for those friends, so you don't have to worry about making the choice.
I would, but the law of luck-to-blunderance ratios indicates that any trap I would use to ensnare or kill said persons would inevitably fail as they'd kill themselves off before reaching that point.
Make said friends cut the grass and wash the dogs while you work on the campaign for them. By work on the campaign, I mean play Fallout 3. You can BS the campaign better than anyone I know.

Um, you do realize that you're in said campaign... and that means my BSing will likely get -YOU- killed.


Studpuffin wrote:
Treppa, Agent of C.H.A.O.S wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
Wet Blanket wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:

Work on my campaign

VS

Hang out with those friends who'll be disappointed Saturday if I don't work on my campaign.

Choices...

Arrange an "accident" for those friends, so you don't have to worry about making the choice.
I would, but the law of luck-to-blunderance ratios indicates that any trap I would use to ensnare or kill said persons would inevitably fail as they'd kill themselves off before reaching that point.
Make said friends cut the grass and wash the dogs while you work on the campaign for them. By work on the campaign, I mean play Fallout 3. You can BS the campaign better than anyone I know.
Um, you do realize that you're in said campaign... and that means my BSing will likely get -YOU- killed.

I have ways of getting +2's that the others don't. :)

Liberty's Edge

Treppa wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Treppa wrote:
By now, I should know better than to read comments on the major news boards. People think they are witty, but they're not. I'm glad Paizo doesn't have that problem. Usually.
Too often when I read news stories online I find myself reading the comments beneath them. I really need to stop doing that.
I'm generally optimistic, but comments make me doubt the viability of the species. The lack of analytical thought I can live with, but the utter meanness of spirit of some posters is appalling.

I watch Fox News for the rock and roll intros.

I watch Comedy Central for the commentary.
I watch G4 because its the only news that matters.

RPG Superstar 2012

I say BS away.

After all, I'm not in your campaign.

Liberty's Edge

taig wrote:

I say BS away.

After all, I'm not in your campaign.

I've been told its hard to tell the difference. I don't know if that's good or bad. <shrug>

Scarab Sages

Studpuffin wrote:
taig wrote:

I say BS away.

After all, I'm not in your campaign.

I've been told its hard to tell the difference. I don't know if that's good or bad. <shrug>

Whether or not Taig's in your campaign?

Liberty's Edge

Treppa wrote:
You're half right.

Win!

Liberty's Edge

Moff Rimmer wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
taig wrote:

I say BS away.

After all, I'm not in your campaign.

I've been told its hard to tell the difference. I don't know if that's good or bad. <shrug>
Whether or not Taig's in your campaign?

Especially since Taig isn't in my campaign... that I know of.

Liberty's Edge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2012

Moff Rimmer wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:
taig wrote:

I say BS away.

After all, I'm not in your campaign.

I've been told its hard to tell the difference. I don't know if that's good or bad. <shrug>
Whether or not Taig's in your campaign?

I get that a lot. :S


taig wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:

[FURTHER EDIT] Slight error in the above post. It should read...

It works like this. 1d4 sneak attack damage every level unless you decide to add something to your sneak attack- the best example is poison use, but I'm also considering certain negative conditions as well. You choose the poison or condition you're using before you make the sneak attack, and provided it hits you force the opponent to make a save(usually Fort, though not always) vs the number you just rolled or they suffer from the condition. I'm currently thinking the opponent doesn't take damage from sneak attacks that hinge on causing conditions, but if its considered too "weak" then I'm up for changing it in some way- the only reason I don't want it to do a lot of damage is because I don't want it to be used EVERY round with EVERY sneak attack- that'd be a little too much, and I want there to be some forethought put into it. Furthermore, I'm also thinking sneak attacks would only be possible once a round when using these rules.

Italicized things are what I should have put in there the FIRST time around. Thoughts?

You may now continue with your thread, already in progress.

That sounds reasonable to me. Now that you mention it, raw sneak attack damage should be better than applying a condition/poison. Have you ever looked at the Complete Rogue sourcebook (3.5 splattybook from WoTC)? It's got a similar mechanic to what you're looking for, except it trades out dice of damage for a condition.

It's another case of great minds(?) thinking alike as I came up with something like this months before that book came out- but I thought the rogue losing some of their 10d6 damage was too much, and most of the rogue players felt the same way.


Callous Jack. wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
What? We have a major wit problem!
I feel witty, oh so witty...

My feelings are good, as they correspond to the reality.

Treppa you are both right and wrong. We have both a major wit problem and a half wit problem. They aren't the same problem.

Silver Crusade

I decided the OTD forums were far too serious and needed a new thread for silliness.

Liberty's Edge

Celestial Healer wrote:
I decided the OTD forums were far too serious and needed a new thread for silliness.

Go to the rules questions forum, its silly enough for all of Paizo.

Silver Crusade

Studpuffin wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
I decided the OTD forums were far too serious and needed a new thread for silliness.
Go to the rules questions forum, its silly enough for all of Paizo.

Touche

The Exchange

Oh happy day, oh happy day, when Solnes came and washed my cares away!

The Exchange

And she goes to take a nap. :/

All three kids by myself scares the livin' shyt outta me. ;P

The Exchange

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Callous Jack. wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
What? We have a major wit problem!
I feel witty, oh so witty...

My feelings are good, as they correspond to the reality.

Treppa you are both right and wrong. We have both a major wit problem and a half wit problem. They aren't the same problem.

That's because we have all the wit, but the half wits out there think they do, that just proves what witless wonders they are.

Silver Crusade

Moorluck wrote:

And she goes to take a nap. :/

All three kids by myself scares the livin' shyt outta me. ;P

You can do it!

Scarab Sages

Celestial Healer wrote:
Moorluck wrote:

And she goes to take a nap. :/

All three kids by myself scares the livin' shyt outta me. ;P

You can do it!

Just remember to remove the duct tape before she wakes up.

Liberty's Edge

Is it pessimistic or optimistic to call someone a half-wit?

Edit: stupid scroller... grumble grumble

The Exchange

Studpuffin wrote:

Is it pessimistic or optimistic to call someone a half-wit?

Edit: stupid scroller... grumble grumble

Neither, it's realistic. ;)

The Exchange

Moff Rimmer wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Moorluck wrote:

And she goes to take a nap. :/

All three kids by myself scares the livin' shyt outta me. ;P

You can do it!
Just remember to remove the duct tape before she wakes up.

Good advice, maybe this time she won't hit me with that left hook of hers. O_o

The Exchange

On a Fallout3 note, Clover looks so cute in her Confederate cap I pulled out of Point Lookout for her. And she just loves her new Flamethrower, now just to get her the Raider Commando armor from The Pitt, and she'll be the hottest little batsh*t crazy murderous sex slave in all The Capitol Wastelands! :)


Studpuffin wrote:

Is it pessimistic or optimistic to call someone a half-wit?

Edit: stupid scroller... grumble grumble

It depends on whom you're calling!

The Exchange

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:

Is it pessimistic or optimistic to call someone a half-wit?

Edit: stupid scroller... grumble grumble

It depends on whom you're calling!

Or on what day of the week you are calling said individual a half-wit.


My mother would pick the week the Icelandic volcano erupts to travel to Europe. Sure hope she can get back.


My little cousin and her new husband made it back from Iceland just fine, so I'm sure your mom will, too. :)


There are probably worse fates than being stranded in Paris for an extra week, but I can't think of any.

The Exchange

Treppa wrote:
There are probably worse fates than being stranded in Paris for an extra week, but I can't think of any.

For me it would be stuck with the in-laws for a week without my PS3 to vent my murderous rages.


Treppa wrote:
There are probably worse fates than being stranded in Paris for an extra week, but I can't think of any.

In Paris without plenty of money, perhaps. Of course, I still haven't been there myself, but based on known experiences.


Moorluck wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:

Is it pessimistic or optimistic to call someone a half-wit?

Edit: stupid scroller... grumble grumble

It depends on whom you're calling!
Or on what day of the week you are calling said individual a half-wit.

I am a quarter-wit. ~thinks~ Hummmnnnn... Maybe that is NOT a good thing.


Moorluck wrote:
Treppa wrote:
There are probably worse fates than being stranded in Paris for an extra week, but I can't think of any.
For me it would be stuck with the in-laws for a week without my PS3 to vent my murderous rages.

I'd like to have a solid day and night of mayhem on the X-box. It's been a while.

Liberty's Edge

Moorluck wrote:
On a Fallout3 note, Clover looks so cute in her Confederate cap I pulled out of Point Lookout for her. And she just loves her new Flamethrower, now just to get her the Raider Commando armor from The Pitt, and she'll be the hottest little batsh*t crazy murderous sex slave in all The Capitol Wastelands! :)

I've been reading about Cloverfield, and this post just threw me off. Not in the FO3 mindset, "Clover" in a confederate cap would've just been... um... odd.


Treppa wrote:
Moorluck wrote:
Treppa wrote:
There are probably worse fates than being stranded in Paris for an extra week, but I can't think of any.
For me it would be stuck with the in-laws for a week without my PS3 to vent my murderous rages.
I'd like to have a solid day and night of mayhem on the X-box. It's been a while.

Muhahahahaha

You have SD to work on!

*cracks whip*

Dark Archive Bella Sara Charter Superscriber

Treppa wrote:
My mother would pick the week the Icelandic volcano erupts to travel to Europe. Sure hope she can get back.

My brother-in-law and sister-in-law were due to fly back from Hawaii on September 12, 2001...


Sharoth wrote:
Moorluck wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Studpuffin wrote:

Is it pessimistic or optimistic to call someone a half-wit?

Edit: stupid scroller... grumble grumble

It depends on whom you're calling!
Or on what day of the week you are calling said individual a half-wit.
I am a quarter-wit. ~thinks~ Hummmnnnn... Maybe that is NOT a good thing.

You're an optimist! ~ grins and runs ~


The Claw, leader of C.H.A.O.S. wrote:
Treppa wrote:
Moorluck wrote:
Treppa wrote:
There are probably worse fates than being stranded in Paris for an extra week, but I can't think of any.
For me it would be stuck with the in-laws for a week without my PS3 to vent my murderous rages.
I'd like to have a solid day and night of mayhem on the X-box. It's been a while.

Muhahahahaha

You have SD to work on!

*cracks whip*

I know, and that's nearly as much fun. Talk about mayhem and destruction!


Soon I will extract all the energon from the tildas... and I will return to Cybertron triumphant!

Transformers for TOTP!

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