Tom Qadim RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16, 2011 Top 32, 2012 Top 4 |
William Ronald |
Lake Encarthan is the most heavily traveled body of water in central Avistan, but there's not much info on it yet. Is the lake really just a huge fresh-water lake, or is it a salty inland sea?
I can't answer the question on whether Lake Encarthan is a fresh or saltwater body of water, but here is the Pathfinder Wiki. A look at a map indicates a possible outlet in the River Kingdoms. (I would prefer Lake Encarthan as a fresh water body, as it separates it from the Sea of Fallen Stars and the Moonsea in the Forgotten Realms.)
William Ronald |
James Jacobs wrote:Lake Encarthan is freshwater.Conversly, is it safe to assume that the Inner Sea is saltwater?
I would suspect that the Inner Sea is saltwater. There is an narrow gap at the Western end - the Arch of Aroden. (If we assume that this is roughly the size of the Straits of Gibraltar, it would let water from the Arcadian Ocean in.) Additionally, there is the gap between Qadira and Osirion which allows the Obari Ocean to flow into the Inner Sea.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
Studpuffin |
Kendril Shad wrote:James Jacobs wrote:Lake Encarthan is freshwater.Conversly, is it safe to assume that the Inner Sea is saltwater?yes. The Inner Sea is saltwater.
As far as our naming conventions go; "Lake" means freshwater and "Ocean" or "Sea" means saltwater.
So if there were an equivalent to the Great Salt Lake you'd call it the Great Salt Sea? Cool with me! I like that distinction.
In a related note (one not specifically Pathfinder) does anyone know if the Nyr Dyv in Greyhawk was salt or fresh water? Our SCAP game is coming to an end (set in the Amedio Jungles) but my character is from Dyvers (It was my old Living Greyhawk region). Just wondering out of nostalgia.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
Jason Nelson Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games |
Aberzombie |
Any hopes of one day seeing a Lake Encarthan-centric book? I've been playing the Crypt of the Everflame/Masks of the Living God series (the Price of Immortality series?) and really enjoyed the part in Masks where the PCs take a barge down to Tamran.
Of course, my PCs hated it, because I rolled for 4 separate random encounters during the journey. They actually got tired of fighting.
Kajehase |
Tom Qadim wrote:Lake Encarthan is the most heavily traveled body of water in central Avistan, but there's not much info on it yet. Is the lake really just a huge fresh-water lake, or is it a salty inland sea?I can't answer the question on whether Lake Encarthan is a fresh or saltwater body of water, but here is the Pathfinder Wiki. A look at a map indicates a possible outlet in the River Kingdoms. (I would prefer Lake Encarthan as a fresh water body, as it separates it from the Sea of Fallen Stars and the Moonsea in the Forgotten Realms.)
The Moonsea is freshwater (see the late 2nd edition supplement Sea of Fallen Stars by Steven Schend).
William Ronald |
William Ronald wrote:The Moonsea is freshwater (see the late 2nd edition supplement Sea of Fallen Stars by Steven Schend).Tom Qadim wrote:Lake Encarthan is the most heavily traveled body of water in central Avistan, but there's not much info on it yet. Is the lake really just a huge fresh-water lake, or is it a salty inland sea?I can't answer the question on whether Lake Encarthan is a fresh or saltwater body of water, but here is the Pathfinder Wiki. A look at a map indicates a possible outlet in the River Kingdoms. (I would prefer Lake Encarthan as a fresh water body, as it separates it from the Sea of Fallen Stars and the Moonsea in the Forgotten Realms.)
Thanks. My familiarity, other than online materials, with the Forgotten Realms is mostly limited to the 3rd Edition FRCS and the old Living City campaign.
lisamarlene |
Does anyone still use this thread? I'm trying to figure out how to get my players from Sandpoint to Katapesh to run Legacy of Fire, and trying to avoid places that are super-evil, like, oh, Cheliax, Nidal, etc. I was assuming they could get a boat from Tamran to Kerse, but then I read on the pathfinder wiki that the Molthune navy has Tamran blockaded?
Is this just for military or trade purposes, or can small fishing boats not even get out? Because otherwise, how would they get fish?
archmagi1 |
Sandpoint through varisia through belkzen or rivers along northern nirmathas to Vigil. Once there take a ship down the river to the Lake. For extra fun, stops at caliphas and thronestep for some only bad places but not super evil. I'm ure Vellumis in lastwall is probably a safe port to cross the lake.
Waterhammer |
Does anyone still use this thread? I'm trying to figure out how to get my players from Sandpoint to Katapesh to run Legacy of Fire, and trying to avoid places that are super-evil, like, oh, Cheliax, Nidal, etc. I was assuming they could get a boat from Tamran to Kerse, but then I read on the pathfinder wiki that the Molthune navy has Tamran blockaded?
Is this just for military or trade purposes, or can small fishing boats not even get out? Because otherwise, how would they get fish?
From Varisia to Katapesh? Sea route seems like the easiest. You could hand wave the whole voyage if you wanted. Or, throw some sea borne encounters if you wanted. Korvosa is loosely allied with Cheliax, so if they left from there, getting through the Straits of Aroden wouldn't be a problem.
Alternately, they could leave from Magnimar (or, even Sandpoint which does have a good, deep water harbor) onboard an Aspis Consortium vessel. An Aspis vessel would have little trouble with the Chelish blockade of the Aroden Straits either.On topic with this thread: The West Sellen River drains Lake Encarthan, east to Kallas Lake, at the southernmost point of the River Kingdoms, where it meets the East Sellen. From there, the Sellen River flows south, past Kyonen, and the Five Kings mountains on the west. Galt sits on the east bank. Further south it marks the boundary between Andoran, and Taldor, before emptying into the Inner Sea at Cassomir.