There's a similar thread about this going around and around but they are talking about multiclassing. What I'm wondering is what would my level 2 monk's attack bonus be while using flurry of blows with a +3 str bonus?
Right now I think it's +5/+5, +0/+0 for FoB, +2/+2 for BAB (which is his current monk level), and +3/+3 for the Str bonus.
This number seems right when compared to other melee types, the same level fighter with the same Str bonus would also be at +5.
Why I think this might not be right is because once the monk gets to high levels his attack bonus seems to go through the roof using the same formula. The bonuses scale much faster than the fighters.
A level 20 monk would have an attack bonus something like +33/+33/+28/+23/+18/+13/+8. And that's without any Str or any other bonuses. Seems high.
A level 20 fighter is +20/+15/+10/+5, before any other bonuses.
Any thoughts? How badly am I not understanding the rules?
BAB is already taken into account in the FoB attacks column. If you 're pure class you just have to add your bonuses(Str, magic, etc) to the values there.
20th level monk's attacks are at +18/+18/+13/+13/+8/+8/+3, the same as a fighter's with the complete two weapon fighting feat chain.
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A level 20 monk would have an attack bonus something like +33/+33/+28/+23/+18/+13/+8. And that's without any Str or any other bonuses. Seems high.A level 20 fighter is +20/+15/+10/+5, before any other bonuses.
Any thoughts? How badly am I not understanding the rules?
Im not understanding how you came up with these numbers for the monk. FoB is based off the monks level, and works like TWF with two light weapons, ie -2 to all attacks. So a level 20 monk's FoB is the same as using greater twf and his "BAB" for it is his level, 20. Taking the -2 penalty, his FoB attack bonus is the as stated on the monk charts, +18(M)/+18(off)/+13(M)/+13(off)/+8(M)/+8(off)/+3(M), same as a fighter using the twf feat chain. These numbers exclude any other to-hit bonuses.
Of course for the monk, technically there is no off hand weapon, so he would get his full str bonus on the "off hand" attacks, but a fighter going this route has undoubtedly invested in Double Slice, so he would also get full str bonus on his offhand attacks.
*EDIT* NINJA'D! :)
BAB is already taken into account in the FoB attacks column. If you 're pure class you just have to add your bonuses(Str, magic, etc) to the values there.
20th level monk's attacks are at +18/+18/+13/+13/+8/+8/+3, the same as a fighter's with the complete two weapon fighting feat chain.
Then what's the purpose of them mentining in the section under FoB 'for the purposes of these attacks, the monk's BAB is equal to his monk level'?
The monk's BAB for 2nd level is +1, and +0/+0 for FoB. When and why would we apply a BAB that is equal to his levels of monk? Which is +2 btw.
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Then what's the purpose of them mentining in the section under FoB 'for the purposes of these attacks, the monk's BAB is equal to his monk level'?The monk's BAB for 2nd level is +1, and +0/+0 for FoB. When and why would we apply a BAB that is equal to his levels of monk? Which is +2 btw.
Because it tells you HOW they arrived at the numbers in the FoB section of the chart. They used the BAB of the monk level, and already factored in the -2. So for level 2, for FoB you ARE using a "BAB" of +2, because with the -2 penalty in you get your +0/+0 that you just mentioned.
Because it tells you HOW they arrived at the numbers in the FoB section of the chart. They used the BAB of the monk level, and already factored in the -2. So for level 2, for FoB you ARE using a "BAB" of +2, because with the -2 penalty in you get your +0/+0 that you just mentioned.
Then what's the purpose of them mentining in the section under FoB 'for the purposes of these attacks, the monk's BAB is equal to his monk level'?The monk's BAB for 2nd level is +1, and +0/+0 for FoB. When and why would we apply a BAB that is equal to his levels of monk? Which is +2 btw.
Aah. Thank you for that explaination. Makes sense now.