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It seems like nobody wants to answer this question. There was a wand thread a month or so ago, and the OP's questions were answered, but mine was the final post in the thread asking questions about wands. It finally slipped into the Archive recently. That said, I'll repeat the question:
The question I have is whether or not wands of touch spells (such as a wand of cure light wounds) require melee touch attacks. The PCRB (Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook) basically describes wands as point and shoot the only place it mentions them. Ranged touch attack. Am I correct in my deduction that targeted spells (in wand form) that require a melee touch attack as described in the spell list no longer require physical contact?
I have no Official answer to your question. However, with that being said, I have found that is simpler to go with whatever action the spell that was used to create the wand goes with the wand. To use your example, a wand of Cure Light Wounds would require the user to touch the recipient. So if a cleric was using the wand on an ally no Melee Touch attack would be needed. But if he/she wanted to use the wand against undead, then yes a Melee Touch attack roll would be necessary.
Just my 2 cp.
It seems like nobody wants to answer this question. There was a wand thread a month or so ago, and the OP's questions were answered, but mine was the final post in the thread asking questions about wands. It finally slipped into the Archive recently. That said, I'll repeat the question:
The question I have is whether or not wands of touch spells (such as a wand of cure light wounds) require melee touch attacks. The PCRB (Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook) basically describes wands as point and shoot the only place it mentions them. Ranged touch attack. Am I correct in my deduction that targeted spells (in wand form) that require a melee touch attack as described in the spell list no longer require physical contact?
The statistics of the spell do not change, this would include range.
In order to change the range of a spell, the wand description would need to specifically say so, which it doesn't.
"Point and shoot" is a generality since it does not go into specifics.
It seems like nobody wants to answer this question. There was a wand thread a month or so ago, and the OP's questions were answered, but mine was the final post in the thread asking questions about wands. It finally slipped into the Archive recently. That said, I'll repeat the question:
The wand just lets you cast the spell, every part of the spell remains the same (except the fixed caster level). So if the spell requires an attack, it still requires an attack.
yep, if it was a touch spell then ya need to touch em with the wand. Most classic wands were attack spells, lighting bolt, fireball and the like so the wording just got grandfathered in is all
It seems like nobody wants to answer this question. There was a wand thread a month or so ago, and the OP's questions were answered, but mine was the final post in the thread asking questions about wands. It finally slipped into the Archive recently. That said, I'll repeat the question:
The question I have is whether or not wands of touch spells (such as a wand of cure light wounds) require melee touch attacks. The PCRB (Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook) basically describes wands as point and shoot the only place it mentions them. Ranged touch attack. Am I correct in my deduction that targeted spells (in wand form) that require a melee touch attack as described in the spell list no longer require physical contact?
Where is that reference located in the PCRB? I cannot find it. The section I go to for wand questions is the chapter on magic items. There, on page 496, it describes wand activation. Although it doesn't go into specifics about ranges it does specify that casting time for the wand remains the same as the spell being cast from the wand; "if the spell being cast has a longer casting time than 1 action, however, it takes that long to cast the spelll from a wand." So if casting times remain the same as the original spell for using a wand, then I would expect ranges to be the same as well.
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Where is that reference located in the PCRB? I cannot find it. The section I go to for wand questions is the chapter on magic items. There, on page 496, it describes wand activation. Although it doesn't go into specifics about ranges it does specify that casting time for the wand remains the same as the spell being cast from the wand; "if the spell being cast has a longer casting time than 1 action, however, it takes that long to cast the spelll from a wand." So if casting times remain the same as the original spell for using a wand, then I would expect ranges to be the same as well.
Bottom of the paragraph regarding Activation, second to last line in the paragraph. "To activate a wand, a character must hold it in hand (or whatever passes for a hand, for nonhumanoid creatures) and point it in the general direction of the target or area." Copied directly from the PRD, this text also appears exactly the same in the PRCB.
Bottom of the paragraph regarding Activation, second to last line in the paragraph. "To activate a wand, a character must hold it in hand (or whatever passes for a hand, for nonhumanoid creatures) and point it in the general direction of the target or area." Copied directly from the PRD, this text also appears exactly the same in the PRCB.
Nothing in that seems to overrule the original spell's range, I'm afraid. If it was touch-range as originally cast, it should be touch-range in a wand.
On the other hand, as activating a wand doesn't risk an attack of opportunity or require one to cast defensively, it could actually be useful when you're backed into a corner and surrounded by opponents.
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Wands and scrolls use the range of the original spell.
Could you use a wand of Disguise Self to Disguise a willing Party Member?
First, why bring back a thread dead for 3 years? Just start a new thread.
And no. Disguise Self has a range of Personal, so only the wand wielder can be disguised. To disguise someone else, you would have to give them the wand, and they have to activate it themselves.
sorry, my bad, didn't know how to start a new thread, and again, sorry. Will read the FAQ, and other relevant info more carefully.
Took me a while to figure out how to start a thread too. Have to go to the specific subforum of Pathfinder RPG forum (linked at top of the main forum): such as "Rule Questions", "General Discussion", "Advice", etc.
The "Add New Thread" link is at top of the subforum page.
In Carlos' defense, I'm glad he did resurrect this thread. I had a question that this thread answered, so it worked out well, for me at least. :-)