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I'm really curious about this inquisitor class. Any ideas as to what it might be? I'm hoping its something like the justiciar prestige class from Complete Warrior. That would be awesome....
No offense, but god i hope not. I hated that prestige class...and many others that followed in the complete series. Don't get me wrong, complete warrior (and other completes) had their golden gems in there too.
My theory is that it is a cross between a Ranger/Rogue/Paladin...I'm hoping more for a high-skill, monster hunter-type class that doesn't rely on spells, animals, or a particular fighting style. Beyond that, i have no idea.
my understanding is that its sort of the divine version of a bard. High skills, some spells, some martial ability
Its also apparently going to have a mechanic that allows the character to get tougher as the fight drags on
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My theory is that it is a cross between a Ranger/Rogue/Paladin... I'm hoping more for a high-skill, monster hunter-type class that doesn't rely on spells, animals, or a particular fighting style. Beyond that, i have no idea.
A Witch Hunter / Solomon Kane sort of class would rock into new levels of rockingness.
Some sort of Fighter / Archivist / Knowledge Devotion sort of build, who learns about his foe as he fights them and gets to capitalize on that as the fight progresses, sounds like an option.
I'm hoping for a good BAB class that specializes in fighting spellcasters. I'm also hoping it doesn't learn any spells (spell-like abilities are okay , though).
I have high hopes for the next round in general as those two classes are the ones I've been looking forward to the most.
What I immediately thought of when reading the class was something like the 4e Avenger - some sort of divine combatant class. The bard-like aspect mentioned upthread also intrigues me. (If I'll be playtesting on the player side of the table, it'll probably be as an Inquisitor.
I also like the fluff (that I might have imagined...) of being the a church's behind-the-scenes guy as opposed to the somewhat more crusader-like Cleric or Paladin.
Really, from my perspective, Paizo saved the best for last (I'm almost as excited about the Alchemist), so I can hardly wait.
Really, from my perspective, Paizo saved the best for last (I'm almost as excited about the Alchemist), so I can hardly wait.
hmmmm, its gonna be hard to top the Witch, but we shall see
My theory is that it is a cross between a Ranger/Rogue/Paladin... I'm hoping more for a high-skill, monster hunter-type class that doesn't rely on spells, animals, or a particular fighting style. Beyond that, i have no idea.A Witch Hunter / Solomon Kane sort of class would rock into new levels of rockingness.
Some sort of Fighter / Archivist / Knowledge Devotion sort of build, who learns about his foe as he fights them and gets to capitalize on that as the fight progresses, sounds like an option.
I'm hoping so, and this is a niche that isn't really supported by existing mechanics, so it will be fun to see.
I'm just hoping it isn't randomly charisma based.
It will be Spanish. No one expects that!
It will be Spanish. No one expects that!
Thanks for the laugh. Hopefully they get the reference...
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It will be Spanish. No one expects that!Thanks for the laugh. Hopefully they get the reference...
The Inquisition, let's begin
The Inquisition, look out sinWe have a mission to convert the Jews
We're gonna teach them wrong from right.
We're gonna help them see the light
and make an offer that they can't refuse.
That those Jews just can't refuse
Confess, don't be boring.
Say yes, don't be dull.
A fact you're ignoring:
It's better to lose your skull cap than your skull, or your govalt!
The Inquisition, what a show
The Inquistion, here we go
We know you're wishin' that we'd go away.
But the Inquisition's here and it's here to stay!
My guess: the inquisitor is like the ranger, but with less focus on woodcraft and more focus on general monster-fighting.
Fetch the comfy chair !!!!It will be Spanish. No one expects that!Thanks for the laugh. Hopefully they get the reference...
Not the comfy chair!!!!
Bring out the nuns!
It will be Spanish. No one expects that!
I don't appreciate being called no one: first thought on reading the word Inquisition = Spanish Inquisition meets Chelish Inquisition, and oh how painful it was to realize it was most likely not the fact (still hoping the flavour has room for it)
"Seriousity" aside, thanks so much for that mention, and all that followed.
*ponders... Inquisitor. Bard. Hmm... well, worse things have happened. Who needs torture if you get Zone of Truth? ... why is it I keep making this class Chelish? Anyone?*
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My theory is that it is a cross between a Ranger/Rogue/Paladin... I'm hoping more for a high-skill, monster hunter-type class that doesn't rely on spells, animals, or a particular fighting style. Beyond that, i have no idea.A Witch Hunter / Solomon Kane sort of class would rock into new levels of rockingness.
Some sort of Fighter / Archivist / Knowledge Devotion sort of build, who learns about his foe as he fights them and gets to capitalize on that as the fight progresses, sounds like an option.
this I would like
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It will be Spanish. No one expects that!I don't appreciate being called no one: first thought on reading the word Inquisition = Spanish Inquisition meets Chelish Inquisition, and oh how painful it was to realize it was most likely not the fact (still hoping the flavour has room for it)
"Seriousity" aside, thanks so much for that mention, and all that followed.
*ponders... Inquisitor. Bard. Hmm... well, worse things have happened. Who needs torture if you get Zone of Truth? ... why is it I keep making this class Chelish? Anyone?*
unfortunately the Spanish Inquisitio brought infame to the inquisitor... but the inquisition began in Italy and spreaded throught the catolic world... the reason it was so brutal in Spain is that since the Spanish Empire was the biggest in the world (in those times controling almost all the American continent from Mexico (which extended a good portion fo US) to Argentina with some exceptions... its King was given special permision to oversee the church officials... soon the Spanish Inquisition becoming more both a political and religious tool.
Besides it began simply as inquisirers... they searched suspects and asked questions until the truth came to light (that is why inquisitor... it was about making inquires) the tortur came a lot later.
i would try and dig my old documentation (did a work about the spanish and mexican inquisirion so many years ago) but I have no f#$%ing idea where I left it... only the finished work but its msotly borad presentation and conclusions.
for this reason I can see Inquisitors as seekers of the truth, hunters of evil... I remember Iomedae is looking for Internal Affairs... this IS the work of the Inquisitor
When do they post the 3rd playtest set of classes? Wasn't that supposed to be today?
Nope, on the 14. 2 weeks for each pair of classes.
I expect it to be similiar in structure to the bard.
D8 HD, 3/4 BAB, all simple weapons, probably a handfull of appropriate martial weapons and medium armour.
Overall I expect a high skill focus withlimited divine casting (becuase we need skill heavy alternatives, aside from bards and rogues)
Batts
Confess! Confess! Confess! Confess!
Hey!
Hey, you! Yeah, you!
I was actually expecting you the other day! I got mustard instead.
Frakking Burger King!
It will be Spanish. No one expects that!I don't appreciate being called no one: first thought on reading the word Inquisition = Spanish Inquisition meets Chelish Inquisition, and oh how painful it was to realize it was most likely not the fact (still hoping the flavour has room for it)
"Seriousity" aside, thanks so much for that mention, and all that followed.
*ponders... Inquisitor. Bard. Hmm... well, worse things have happened. Who needs torture if you get Zone of Truth? ... why is it I keep making this class Chelish? Anyone?*
You get all kinds.
soon the Spanish Inquisition becoming more both a political and religious tool.
Since when have those been different? That must have started very recently.
I'm really curious about this inquisitor class. Any ideas as to what it might be?
I hope the Inquisitor is a "Van Helsing" type of class. Monster hunter extraordinaire.
I'm really curious about this inquisitor class. Any ideas as to what it might be?I hope the Inquisitor is a "Van Helsing" type of class. Monster hunter extraordinaire.
I do believe Van Helsing was specifically mentioned at GenCon Oz as being an inspiration for the initial design of the Inquisitor, so you should wind up happy :)
I keep seeing the Mord-Sith from Terry Goodkind in The Sword of Truth series and Legend of the Seeker TV Show for some reason when I think Inquisitor.
soon the Spanish Inquisition becoming more both a political and religious tool.Since when have those been different? That must have started very recently.Well, I would argue that although there is some overlap, politics is largely a matter of supporting one human ruler or another, with a possible side-glance towards their morality, and only exists in the social, collective sphere -- whereas religion is at least partly an internal dialogue between the individual and the infinite, a system of interpreting reality, and a code of conduct, and can exist in the individual without needing to be part of a collective process.
In the end, it's other people telling me what to do and what not to do, and who is supposed to rule me. They just use different excuses.
Who you vote for seems to me to have less impact on personal behavior than your fundamental beliefs about the nature of reality, although said beliefs may influence your politics when you decide who to vote for.
My belief is my belief. Call it "faith", if you will. It's still all mine. I decide for myself what's right and wrong, listening to my inner compass.
In other words, my religion would still have a real effect on my behavior and outlook even if I were literally the last person on Earth
Without any clerics telling you what to do? ;-P
I'm hoping for a van Helsing type, myself, actually, and the prognosis is looking good so far.
What I hope for is "expert-type hunter of heretics" where "expert-type" means someone with many areas of expertise, like a rogue or bard, and "heretic" means "enemy of my faith" be it monstrous or not.
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I keep seeing the Mord-Sith from Terry Goodkind in The Sword of Truth series and Legend of the Seeker TV Show for some reason when I think Inquisitor.
Muahaha. I just stole the Mord-Sith for an adventure I'm running. Got a Cara knock off running dual wielding Vicious Saps of Wounding (she's conveniently immune to the vicious attribute.)
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soon the Spanish Inquisition becoming more both a political and religious tool.Since when have those been different? That must have started very recently.
in Spain IT was different, the power was not on the archbishops but the king :P
in Italy the Pope has his own army to break down whoever defied the church and the Vatican :Pso theya re distinct... they just look quite similar :P
soon the Spanish Inquisition becoming more both a political and religious tool.Since when have those been different? That must have started very recently.in Spain IT was different, the power was not on the archbishops but the king :P
in Italy the Pope has his own army to break down whoever defied the church and the Vatican :Pso theya re distinct... they just look quite similar :P
I'm aware they're somewhat apart... still I'd say the overall theme is the same.
And well... Inquisitions are (okay have always been then) both religious and political tools or someone didn't tell me of some very recent change.
*generally enjoys the topic of discussion and gets into a random hysterically amused mood*
They just use different excuses.
The dog ate your bailout. Seriously.
Wait, that's the same excuse, isn't it?
ditto i was looking forward to the witch and inquisitor the most i think
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I keep seeing the Mord-Sith from Terry Goodkind in The Sword of Truth series and Legend of the Seeker TV Show for some reason when I think Inquisitor.Muahaha. I just stole the Mord-Sith for an adventure I'm running. Got a Cara knock off running dual wielding Vicious Saps of Wounding (she's conveniently immune to the vicious attribute.)
Mmm... Mord-Sith. Nothing like leather clad dominatrices FTW!!! Love that show.
Yeah a divine bard-like class with monster crushing powers is made of win in my book.
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What I hope for is "expert-type hunter of heretics" where "expert-type" means someone with many areas of expertise, like a rogue or bard, and "heretic" means "enemy of my faith" be it monstrous or not.
Exactly. My game's main Church has a Grand Inquisition. I'm hoping they will fit right in...